America is far from free. Why do we accept living under perpetual fear of endless gun violence?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


400 million guns. You aren't voting them away.


Exactly, I hate to say it but it’s too late.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Plenty of nonwhite men involved in gun violence. We can quibble over the threshold for “mass shooting” and whether those are predominantly a white male phenomenon.

But I think we can all agree it’s almost always males doing the killing. What sickness has taken hold of American men?


Woman just theorizing here: we stopped valuing masculinity as important to family structures, law and order, etc.



+1 it’s feminism
Anonymous
Minorities are especially happy with gun rights and increasingly women.

The framers were geniuses at confounding fascists.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Minorities are especially happy with gun rights and increasingly women.

The framers were geniuses at confounding fascists.



I think God loved the founders and used them to make fools of atheist “intellectuals”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


400 million guns. You aren't voting them away.


Gun owners are constantly talking about how law abiding they are. Pass a law requiring their disposal and the masses of law abiding gun owners will do their civic duty for God and country.
Anonymous
We are not living freely or with liberty when the threat of gun violence is apparent at every trun.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Plenty of nonwhite men involved in gun violence. We can quibble over the threshold for “mass shooting” and whether those are predominantly a white male phenomenon.

But I think we can all agree it’s almost always males doing the killing. What sickness has taken hold of American men?


Woman just theorizing here: we stopped valuing masculinity as important to family structures, law and order, etc.



I don’t think so. Countries that place far less emphasis on masculinity have much lower rates of violence. If anything, I think it may be somewhat the opposite- overemphasis on masculine honor.
Anonymous
Fascism has taken over the GOP. No, that is not to
Stark of a word. Until we squash them at the ballot box (and overcome systemic barriers) they will keep trying
to rule over us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Minorities are especially happy with gun rights and increasingly women.

The framers were geniuses at confounding fascists.



I think God loved the founders and used them to make fools of atheist “intellectuals”


Rootless cosmopolitans, amirite?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


400 million guns. You aren't voting them away.

So we’re not going to try? This all or nothing is just an attempt to keep feeling hopeless.

We’ll guess what, we aren’t hopeless. Every single one of us has agency. We need to be talking to friends and family about need for some, any gun safety legislation. We need support gun safety candidates up & down ballot. We need to vote.

Will this happen overnight? No. But look at what MI has done this year. Put Dems in power and we will save lives.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The rest of the world things we a crazy and they are right. There have been nearly 200 mass shootings in 2023. And that doesn't count the hundreds (maybe 1000s) of incidents where fewer than 4 died. Why do we allow ourselves to live like this? It truly is a sign of insanity. Americans love to talk about their freedom. But living under constant threat that someone with a gun could kill me or a family member at any moment is not freedom. Our nation is sick and dying. My husband and I families have been here for 4-5 generations respectively) have been working on a plan to leave. It makes me sad but I can't see it getting any better. Ever. I've lost hope and think we'll go the way of the Roman Empire in the next generation or two. But worse, since there are millions of guns that will never be retrieved and destroyed. They will be with us forever. I saw the Texas mall headline and couldn't be bothered to read a single story. It's just despair porn as this point. Is anyone else genuinely considering leaving the US?


My husband and I have decided to move next summer. It’s just not feasible to raise our three kids in such a terrible gun infested environment. We are well settled here but I refuse to live in a country where guns are valued more than lives. How much longer till one of us is a victim. There is no rhyme or reason to this madness. It can happen anywhere and at this point I feel I’m doing my kids a disservice by staying here. I am Canadian so we are headed to Ontario next year. I also think it’s not only about the victims who end up dead. Think of the trauma being inflicted on people especially kids who have to be evacuated from schools, malls, hospitals, parks because there is an active shooter on the loose. It’s insane!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


400 million guns. You aren't voting them away.

So we’re not going to try? This all or nothing is just an attempt to keep feeling hopeless.

We’ll guess what, we aren’t hopeless. Every single one of us has agency. We need to be talking to friends and family about need for some, any gun safety legislation. We need support gun safety candidates up & down ballot. We need to vote.

Will this happen overnight? No. But look at what MI has done this year. Put Dems in power and we will save lives.


Nothing is going to change as long as the good old south and fly over states keep electing republicans which they will because they lack brain cells. The blue states even the ones in the Midwest can do whatever they want, as long as the federal government is evenly divided, we can’t expect the passage of any meaningful gun legislation such as banning assault weapons.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


400 million guns. You aren't voting them away.



I would support strict gun control measures if they can explain what we do with the 400M guns already in circulation.

Liberals want to pass feel-good gun control measures that read like "thots and prayers." Now that we don't even have effective police enforcement, I wouldn't want normal people to give up their guns. You can make law abiding citizens give up guns while also refusing to enforce laws against dangerous criminals.

PP, please respond which gun safety measure you would support. A simple Y/N is fine
1. No more police auctioning off guns. Melt down guns used in crime.
2. Require licensing including taking a gun safety class
3. Require safe storage
4. Universal mental health background screenings
5. Gun insurance (to prevent property)
6. Red flag laws
7. Raise age of gun ownership to 21. Start with rapid fire assault then move yo long guns, pistols.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


400 million guns. You aren't voting them away.

So we’re not going to try? This all or nothing is just an attempt to keep feeling hopeless.

We’ll guess what, we aren’t hopeless. Every single one of us has agency. We need to be talking to friends and family about need for some, any gun safety legislation. We need support gun safety candidates up & down ballot. We need to vote.

Will this happen overnight? No. But look at what MI has done this year. Put Dems in power and we will save lives.


Nothing is going to change as long as the good old south and fly over states keep electing republicans which they will because they lack brain cells. The blue states even the ones in the Midwest can do whatever they want, as long as the federal government is evenly divided, we can’t expect the passage of any meaningful gun legislation such as banning assault weapons.


Don't blame the south. Chicago, Detroit, New York City and many other violent cities are not in the south.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


400 million guns. You aren't voting them away.



I would support strict gun control measures if they can explain what we do with the 400M guns already in circulation.

Liberals want to pass feel-good gun control measures that read like "thots and prayers." Now that we don't even have effective police enforcement, I wouldn't want normal people to give up their guns. You can make law abiding citizens give up guns while also refusing to enforce laws against dangerous criminals.

PP, please respond which gun safety measure you would support. A simple Y/N is fine
1. No more police auctioning off guns. Melt down guns used in crime.
2. Require licensing including taking a gun safety class
3. Require safe storage
4. Universal mental health background screenings
5. Gun insurance (to prevent property)
6. Red flag laws
7. Raise age of gun ownership to 21. Start with rapid fire assault then move yo long guns, pistols.


You missed one.

8. Being tough on crime, revoking cashless bail and not spreading punishment for good feels.
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