America is far from free. Why do we accept living under perpetual fear of endless gun violence?

Anonymous
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100% agree. We need gun confiscations ASAP. A ban on new guns dies absolutely nothing to reduce the millions of guns already on the street. Without a plan to take those away, it’s just platitudes. You could halt sales of all guns and bullets tomorrow and mass shootings would keep on happening like nothing even changed.


And who is going to do the confiscations? You? The police in the Deep South states are not going to enforce any law regarding gun confiscations passed here in DC.

You can write all the crap you want on DCUM because it cost you nothing, and you do not have to back it up.

However, you do not have the guts to fly to Mobile, AL (or anyplace else in the Deep South) and start taking away people's guns. The people there are not going to give them up without a fight, and it is a fight you are not equipped to win.





DP... I don't think confiscation would work. But I would support a law that requires mandatory registration of every gun, and felony jail time and revocation of gun rights if you don't register. That will separate the law-abiding gun owners from those who aren't.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of nonwhite men involved in gun violence. We can quibble over the threshold for “mass shooting” and whether those are predominantly a white male phenomenon.

But I think we can all agree it’s almost always males doing the killing. What sickness has taken hold of American men?


I’m not really sure what that’s supposed to mean, but it sounds ridiculous.

White men are killing people. Let’s do something about that, mmm’k?


Most people murder by guns are black. 61% of all gun homicides. White peoples about 30% of gun homicide.

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-disproportionately-and-overwhelmingly-hurts-communities-of-color/

Yes, white men do shooting, but more shooting by non-white people. White men more likely to shoot self than other people.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


400 million guns. You aren't voting them away.

So we’re not going to try? This all or nothing is just an attempt to keep feeling hopeless.

We’ll guess what, we aren’t hopeless. Every single one of us has agency. We need to be talking to friends and family about need for some, any gun safety legislation. We need support gun safety candidates up & down ballot. We need to vote.

Will this happen overnight? No. But look at what MI has done this year. Put Dems in power and we will save lives.


Michigan 2023 crime stats not based on "feelz":

2023 Michigan crime rates
Of the Michiganians we surveyed, 51% are worried about their safety. There may be good reason. Michigan ranked eighth in states with the highest violent crime rates. Overall, violent crime rose slightly year over year—from 4.4 instances per 1,000 residents to 4.8 to 5.0. Property crime also increased from 13.6 to 13.8 in 1,000 residents.

17% of survey respondents reported having a personal experience with violent crime in the last year—this is up from 10% the following year.

25% of Michiganders reported experiences with property crime in the 12 months prior to our survey. That rose from 13% the year before.


MI is doing much better under complete democratic control, the results speak for themselves.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


The Supreme Court has spoken. If you don’t like it, you are free to leave.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


400 million guns. You aren't voting them away.

So we’re not going to try? This all or nothing is just an attempt to keep feeling hopeless.

We’ll guess what, we aren’t hopeless. Every single one of us has agency. We need to be talking to friends and family about need for some, any gun safety legislation. We need support gun safety candidates up & down ballot. We need to vote.

Will this happen overnight? No. But look at what MI has done this year. Put Dems in power and we will save lives.


Michigan 2023 crime stats not based on "feelz":

2023 Michigan crime rates
Of the Michiganians we surveyed, 51% are worried about their safety. There may be good reason. Michigan ranked eighth in states with the highest violent crime rates. Overall, violent crime rose slightly year over year—from 4.4 instances per 1,000 residents to 4.8 to 5.0. Property crime also increased from 13.6 to 13.8 in 1,000 residents.

17% of survey respondents reported having a personal experience with violent crime in the last year—this is up from 10% the following year.

25% of Michiganders reported experiences with property crime in the 12 months prior to our survey. That rose from 13% the year before.


MI is doing much better under complete democratic control, the results speak for themselves.





Meh. “3 out of 4 DC residents feel safe in their neighborhoods.” - according to a “survey” by the Washington Post:

The Post said so. It must be true.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


400 million guns. You aren't voting them away.

So we’re not going to try? This all or nothing is just an attempt to keep feeling hopeless.

We’ll guess what, we aren’t hopeless. Every single one of us has agency. We need to be talking to friends and family about need for some, any gun safety legislation. We need support gun safety candidates up & down ballot. We need to vote.

Will this happen overnight? No. But look at what MI has done this year. Put Dems in power and we will save lives.


Nothing is going to change as long as the good old south and fly over states keep electing republicans which they will because they lack brain cells. The blue states even the ones in the Midwest can do whatever they want, as long as the federal government is evenly divided, we can’t expect the passage of any meaningful gun legislation such as banning assault weapons.


Don't blame the south. Chicago, Detroit, New York City and many other violent cities are not in the south.


You completely missed the PP point. It's the red states that are preventing the solutions to these problems at the federal level.


Thank Gawd for that! Federal and solutions don't go well together.


Well guns don't stop at borders so this state solution hasn't exactly been working. We're all only as safe as the weakest state's gun laws.


We are only as safe as the weakest DA's that let criminals out on the streets. Blue states will claim they have a lower crime rate but yet when many crimes are no longer considered crimes it doesn't make the the state safer by any means.
Anonymous
Pretty sure more people die in car accidents than are killed by guns each year. A lot more.
Anonymous
We’re constantly told how law abiding gun owners are. You’re telling me they’re actually would-be cop killers? Good to know.


Would you resist a law you felt was immoral and unjust? Would you give your life to do so?

Would you be the cop that goes to get the gun from people who believe you are ending their right to defend themselves?

No, you do not have the guts. We all know it.

So STFU until you can muster the passion to do so.
Anonymous
DP... I don't think confiscation would work. But I would support a law that requires mandatory registration of every gun, and felony jail time and revocation of gun rights if you don't register. That will separate the law-abiding gun owners from those who aren't.


If the majority of gun owners (and that would be a large majority in many places in our country) oppose such a law, it would be unenforceable.

Trying to put someone in jail for not registering would lead to the same issues as trying to remove someone's firearms by force. If you cannot see how this issue has the potential to create bloodshed worse than any war before it, you are not looking closely.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


400 million guns. You aren't voting them away.


It will take time, and many people will die in the process…but voting us the ONLY path to resolving this. Voting out craven Republicans.

I would also support modernizing/clarifying the second amendment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


400 million guns. You aren't voting them away.


It will take time, and many people will die in the process…but voting us the ONLY path to resolving this. Voting out craven Republicans.

I would also support modernizing/clarifying the second amendment.


Cool. What you want and what you think isn't going to happen.

LOLing at people getting uptight over gun rights while blindly turning an eye to that far more people are killed in car accidents. Want to ban cars?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


400 million guns. You aren't voting them away.


It will take time, and many people will die in the process…but voting us the ONLY path to resolving this. Voting out craven Republicans.

I would also support modernizing/clarifying the second amendment.


Cool. What you want and what you think isn't going to happen.

LOLing at people getting uptight over gun rights while blindly turning an eye to that far more people are killed in car accidents. Want to ban cars?



Once the boomers pass, their children will collect up their guns and turn them in. Gun ownership will be looked at as slavery 100 years from now, a hard-to-understand mass cruel horrible delusion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


400 million guns. You aren't voting them away.


It will take time, and many people will die in the process…but voting us the ONLY path to resolving this. Voting out craven Republicans.

I would also support modernizing/clarifying the second amendment.


Cool. What you want and what you think isn't going to happen.

LOLing at people getting uptight over gun rights while blindly turning an eye to that far more people are killed in car accidents. Want to ban cars?


For kids, guns are number one. Why are we banning books and movies and puberty blockers "FOR THE CHILDREN" but shrugging at the actual statistical number one thing that harms children?

Also, for cars which do kill people, we regulate cars: you must register them, insure them, and pass a test to drive one, all of which statistically reduced car injury rates per capita from the rates years ago even if car deaths still happen - it's at a rate that has dramatically declined over multiple decades.

So yes, why don't we do this for guns FOR THE CHILDREN?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


The Supreme Court has spoken. If you don’t like it, you are free to leave.


Or to change the Supreme Court. That’s how the Catholics rolled back reproductive liberty for women. We can surely do the same thing for unregulated possession of firearms.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too many people are willingly misreading the Second Amendment and voting in equally ignorant people. 2E calls for a "well-regulated militia." At some point this became the idea that unregulated, unfettered access to guns of all types is a Constitutional right. A significant portion of our population really believes that's what the 2E says.
We the people won't be free of gun violence until we can overcome the ignorance, the intentional misunderstandings, the crazy conspiracy ideas that so many believe in. And that won't happen without a well-educated public, which in itself can't happen without Republican buy-in to strong public schools. For now, our best bet is to use our VOTE.


The Supreme Court has spoken. If you don’t like it, you are free to leave.


Or to change the Supreme Court. That’s how the Catholics rolled back reproductive liberty for women. We can surely do the same thing for unregulated possession of firearms.


or just amend the constitution. I think it is time
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