Verbally abusive mother at the park - what would you do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child being placed in foster care or even a family being investigated would be 1000 times more damaging to a child than being yelled at by a frazzled mom.

But potentially save that child’s life. Or is death not considered damaging?

What are you even talking about? Saving a child's life? I was not aware that yelling and cursing at a child means their life is at risk

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child being placed in foster care or even a family being investigated would be 1000 times more damaging to a child than being yelled at by a frazzled mom.

But potentially save that child’s life. Or is death not considered damaging?

What are you even talking about? Saving a child's life? I was not aware that yelling and cursing at a child means their life is at risk

About 2000 kids die a year from abuse/neglect, overwhelmingly at the hands of their parents. How many of those 2000 children would be alive if someone called CPS when they saw something happening to them one day at the park?

No child— not one single child— will be taken away from their family over a video of their mother swearing at them, but it might trigger a home visit/investigation that turned up the fact that the child really was in danger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child being placed in foster care or even a family being investigated would be 1000 times more damaging to a child than being yelled at by a frazzled mom.

But potentially save that child’s life. Or is death not considered damaging?

What are you even talking about? Saving a child's life? I was not aware that yelling and cursing at a child means their life is at risk

About 2000 kids die a year from abuse/neglect, overwhelmingly at the hands of their parents. How many of those 2000 children would be alive if someone called CPS when they saw something happening to them one day at the park?

No child— not one single child— will be taken away from their family over a video of their mother swearing at them, but it might trigger a home visit/investigation that turned up the fact that the child really was in danger.

so you think that adding any parent who swears at their child to the already unmanageable crazy high CPS caseloads will save more children? ooookay.

You realize that many (Most?) children who die already had CPS involved, right?

Man, I don't even know where to begin with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child being placed in foster care or even a family being investigated would be 1000 times more damaging to a child than being yelled at by a frazzled mom.

But potentially save that child’s life. Or is death not considered damaging?

What are you even talking about? Saving a child's life? I was not aware that yelling and cursing at a child means their life is at risk

About 2000 kids die a year from abuse/neglect, overwhelmingly at the hands of their parents. How many of those 2000 children would be alive if someone called CPS when they saw something happening to them one day at the park?

No child— not one single child— will be taken away from their family over a video of their mother swearing at them, but it might trigger a home visit/investigation that turned up the fact that the child really was in danger.

so you think that adding any parent who swears at their child to the already unmanageable crazy high CPS caseloads will save more children? ooookay.

You realize that many (Most?) children who die already had CPS involved, right?

Man, I don't even know where to begin with this.

You think the greater evil is the possibility the child ends up in foster care, I think the greater evil is that the child dies. I see your perspective I just don’t share it. I sent this thread to a teacher friend and she said a mandated reporter would almost certainly have to write this up if they witnessed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child being placed in foster care or even a family being investigated would be 1000 times more damaging to a child than being yelled at by a frazzled mom.

But potentially save that child’s life. Or is death not considered damaging?

What are you even talking about? Saving a child's life? I was not aware that yelling and cursing at a child means their life is at risk

About 2000 kids die a year from abuse/neglect, overwhelmingly at the hands of their parents. How many of those 2000 children would be alive if someone called CPS when they saw something happening to them one day at the park?

No child— not one single child— will be taken away from their family over a video of their mother swearing at them, but it might trigger a home visit/investigation that turned up the fact that the child really was in danger.

so you think that adding any parent who swears at their child to the already unmanageable crazy high CPS caseloads will save more children? ooookay.

You realize that many (Most?) children who die already had CPS involved, right?

Man, I don't even know where to begin with this.

To be clear I don’t think the swearing is the big deal here, I think it’s the threatened beating. My toddler wouldn’t have the faintest idea what that sentence meant— if she thought her child would, there’s a reasonable chance he knows what a beating is because he’s experienced it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child being placed in foster care or even a family being investigated would be 1000 times more damaging to a child than being yelled at by a frazzled mom.

But potentially save that child’s life. Or is death not considered damaging?

What are you even talking about? Saving a child's life? I was not aware that yelling and cursing at a child means their life is at risk

About 2000 kids die a year from abuse/neglect, overwhelmingly at the hands of their parents. How many of those 2000 children would be alive if someone called CPS when they saw something happening to them one day at the park?

No child— not one single child— will be taken away from their family over a video of their mother swearing at them, but it might trigger a home visit/investigation that turned up the fact that the child really was in danger.

so you think that adding any parent who swears at their child to the already unmanageable crazy high CPS caseloads will save more children? ooookay.

You realize that many (Most?) children who die already had CPS involved, right?

Man, I don't even know where to begin with this.

You think the greater evil is the possibility the child ends up in foster care, I think the greater evil is that the child dies. I see your perspective I just don’t share it. I sent this thread to a teacher friend and she said a mandated reporter would almost certainly have to write this up if they witnessed it.

You calling CPS over a mom who is frustrated will take the social worker's attention away from the kid that's about to be killed. The CPS worker will be obligated to investigate your concern, and therefore will not have enough time to follow up on the child that has been locked in a dog cage and starved.

Yay, congratulations hero!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child being placed in foster care or even a family being investigated would be 1000 times more damaging to a child than being yelled at by a frazzled mom.

But potentially save that child’s life. Or is death not considered damaging?

What are you even talking about? Saving a child's life? I was not aware that yelling and cursing at a child means their life is at risk

About 2000 kids die a year from abuse/neglect, overwhelmingly at the hands of their parents. How many of those 2000 children would be alive if someone called CPS when they saw something happening to them one day at the park?

No child— not one single child— will be taken away from their family over a video of their mother swearing at them, but it might trigger a home visit/investigation that turned up the fact that the child really was in danger.

so you think that adding any parent who swears at their child to the already unmanageable crazy high CPS caseloads will save more children? ooookay.

You realize that many (Most?) children who die already had CPS involved, right?

Man, I don't even know where to begin with this.

To be clear I don’t think the swearing is the big deal here, I think it’s the threatened beating. My toddler wouldn’t have the faintest idea what that sentence meant— if she thought her child would, there’s a reasonable chance he knows what a beating is because he’s experienced it.

Ever read the play "12 Angry Men?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child being placed in foster care or even a family being investigated would be 1000 times more damaging to a child than being yelled at by a frazzled mom.

But potentially save that child’s life. Or is death not considered damaging?

What are you even talking about? Saving a child's life? I was not aware that yelling and cursing at a child means their life is at risk

About 2000 kids die a year from abuse/neglect, overwhelmingly at the hands of their parents. How many of those 2000 children would be alive if someone called CPS when they saw something happening to them one day at the park?

No child— not one single child— will be taken away from their family over a video of their mother swearing at them, but it might trigger a home visit/investigation that turned up the fact that the child really was in danger.

so you think that adding any parent who swears at their child to the already unmanageable crazy high CPS caseloads will save more children? ooookay.

You realize that many (Most?) children who die already had CPS involved, right?

Man, I don't even know where to begin with this.

You think the greater evil is the possibility the child ends up in foster care, I think the greater evil is that the child dies. I see your perspective I just don’t share it. I sent this thread to a teacher friend and she said a mandated reporter would almost certainly have to write this up if they witnessed it.

no, I think the greater evil is that MORE children will die because you think every parent who swears at their child should be investigated. CPS workers barely have the time or resources to help and investigate the kids that are showing up to school will visible bruises or who complain about being sexually assaulted, exactly where do you think all this time and extra bandwidth is going to come from to make a home visit/investigation for the homes where parents are swearing at children?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child being placed in foster care or even a family being investigated would be 1000 times more damaging to a child than being yelled at by a frazzled mom.

But potentially save that child’s life. Or is death not considered damaging?

What are you even talking about? Saving a child's life? I was not aware that yelling and cursing at a child means their life is at risk

About 2000 kids die a year from abuse/neglect, overwhelmingly at the hands of their parents. How many of those 2000 children would be alive if someone called CPS when they saw something happening to them one day at the park?

No child— not one single child— will be taken away from their family over a video of their mother swearing at them, but it might trigger a home visit/investigation that turned up the fact that the child really was in danger.

so you think that adding any parent who swears at their child to the already unmanageable crazy high CPS caseloads will save more children? ooookay.

You realize that many (Most?) children who die already had CPS involved, right?

Man, I don't even know where to begin with this.

Since you don't know where to begin:

Start by recognizing this is not healthy behavior. When/if you can grasp that concept move to think about ways society can get the mother to behave more appropriately toward her child. Now, I know this will be hard for you and it may hurt your tiny brain. You can stop here if it's too much. If you want an added challenge you can think of ways to link these parents to resources that may not be directly through CPS but through community outreach that may offer more assistance. Your brain probably will explode, so let's take a break.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child being placed in foster care or even a family being investigated would be 1000 times more damaging to a child than being yelled at by a frazzled mom.

But potentially save that child’s life. Or is death not considered damaging?

What are you even talking about? Saving a child's life? I was not aware that yelling and cursing at a child means their life is at risk

About 2000 kids die a year from abuse/neglect, overwhelmingly at the hands of their parents. How many of those 2000 children would be alive if someone called CPS when they saw something happening to them one day at the park?

No child— not one single child— will be taken away from their family over a video of their mother swearing at them, but it might trigger a home visit/investigation that turned up the fact that the child really was in danger.

so you think that adding any parent who swears at their child to the already unmanageable crazy high CPS caseloads will save more children? ooookay.

You realize that many (Most?) children who die already had CPS involved, right?

Man, I don't even know where to begin with this.

You think the greater evil is the possibility the child ends up in foster care, I think the greater evil is that the child dies. I see your perspective I just don’t share it. I sent this thread to a teacher friend and she said a mandated reporter would almost certainly have to write this up if they witnessed it.

no, I think the greater evil is that MORE children will die because you think every parent who swears at their child should be investigated. CPS workers barely have the time or resources to help and investigate the kids that are showing up to school will visible bruises or who complain about being sexually assaulted, exactly where do you think all this time and extra bandwidth is going to come from to make a home visit/investigation for the homes where parents are swearing at children?

Again, not the swearing, threatening a beating.

[Anonymous]

Luckily the folks at CPS have seen it all and won't take a call about a mom yelling at her child for getting out of her car seat while she was strapping in the baby as a threat of murder. Just guessing they know better than that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Luckily the folks at CPS have seen it all and won't take a call about a mom yelling at her child for getting out of her car seat while she was strapping in the baby as a threat of murder. Just guessing they know better than that.

BUT THE CHILDREN'S LIVES ARE AT STAKE!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child being placed in foster care or even a family being investigated would be 1000 times more damaging to a child than being yelled at by a frazzled mom.

But potentially save that child’s life. Or is death not considered damaging?

What are you even talking about? Saving a child's life? I was not aware that yelling and cursing at a child means their life is at risk

About 2000 kids die a year from abuse/neglect, overwhelmingly at the hands of their parents. How many of those 2000 children would be alive if someone called CPS when they saw something happening to them one day at the park?

No child— not one single child— will be taken away from their family over a video of their mother swearing at them, but it might trigger a home visit/investigation that turned up the fact that the child really was in danger.

so you think that adding any parent who swears at their child to the already unmanageable crazy high CPS caseloads will save more children? ooookay.

You realize that many (Most?) children who die already had CPS involved, right?

Man, I don't even know where to begin with this.

You think the greater evil is the possibility the child ends up in foster care, I think the greater evil is that the child dies. I see your perspective I just don’t share it. I sent this thread to a teacher friend and she said a mandated reporter would almost certainly have to write this up if they witnessed it.

You calling CPS over a mom who is frustrated will take the social worker's attention away from the kid that's about to be killed. The CPS worker will be obligated to investigate your concern, and therefore will not have enough time to follow up on the child that has been locked in a dog cage and starved.

Yay, congratulations hero!

Or those two kids are the same one, and the mom who lacks the impulse control to not threaten her child with a beating in front of witnesses is also the one hitting him with a coat hanger when she gets frustrated with him at home. Do you feel better if no one checks on that child and he dies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Luckily the folks at CPS have seen it all and won't take a call about a mom yelling at her child for getting out of her car seat while she was strapping in the baby as a threat of murder. Just guessing they know better than that.

Then there’s nothing to worry about if someone reports with a video and no one will be inconvenienced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child being placed in foster care or even a family being investigated would be 1000 times more damaging to a child than being yelled at by a frazzled mom.

But potentially save that child’s life. Or is death not considered damaging?

What are you even talking about? Saving a child's life? I was not aware that yelling and cursing at a child means their life is at risk

JFC. Verbal abuse is abuse. If she does that loudly in public, imagine what she does in private. And if screaming mommy who threatens her kids with violence in public is actually a loving, caring, nurturing mother who just had one bad day, then guess what? She has nothing to fear when CPS shows up at her door.