Yes, she could be a loving, caring, nurturing mother who just happened to have a bad day. No one is saying that what OP witnessed is good parenting, just that it was more likely a moment of weakness than it is a pattern of abuse. I guess everyone has a different way of looking at life, but that's how I see it, based on my own parenting experiences over years of trying my damnedest to be a good parent but occasionally failing. My friends have also snapped at their kids in front of me occasionally and I don't consider them bad or abusive parents because of it -- I understand that it happens sometimes. I'm not sure what goes on inside someone's mind when they think a child is in mortal danger because their mom shouted at them for getting out of their car seat. That seems like quite a leap. |
What if PP is wrong? What if the child ends up in CPS custody, and exhibits the same behavior that caused mom to get frustrated in the first place? You will surely sleep better knowing that, like in that article I linked to earlier, the child will be subjected to sleeping in a car with no blankets, A/C blasting, and intentionally deprived of sleep. Do you feel better now, bully? |
Do I feel better than if the child were dead? Yes. I feel even better if the mother gets parenting classes and community support to keep her from being so overwhelmed she threatens to beat her child in public when she knows people are watching. |
| Oh shut up and mind your own goddamn business, LOSER OP. |
| I wouldn’t have said anything but I would have taken down her license plate number, called the police and hoped that they would do something if she had been on their radar screen for previous child abuse. |
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Bunch of racist, classes b_s on this thread.
*OP didn't say anything about race in her OP. I haven't read through to see if she updated that. |
| I was in the changing room at Macys when a woman was yelling at her small child. It was awful and she clearly thought she was alone. I’m a nanny and just couldn’t believe what I said. I said in a quiet and calm voice from inside my locked change room: “When you speak to your child like that, you are changing who they are as a person”. The mom was quiet after that and I have no regrets. |
| *couldn’t believe what I HEARD…. Not said! I’d never speak to a child like that! |
Good for you! That's an excellent response. |
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Holy crap I just read OP's post.
Are you F-ing kidding me??? OP, get mental help. The person with a problem is you. |
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Dear Karen,
You must not be from the DC area if you never heard moms telling their kids "you better ____, or I'm gonna beat your ass." You sound like you are from east bumF- Signed, The *Real* DC Urban Moms. |
What OP heard is verbal abuse. I’m a mandated reporter and the law where I live in California says I would have to report that parent- and I would. I’m |
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California penal code section about mandated reporting:
“The negligent treatment or maltreatment of a child by a person responsible for the child’s welfare under circumstances indicating harm or threatened harm to the child’s health or welfare. This is whether the harm or threatened harm is from acts or omissions on the part of the responsible person.” The ‘mother’ threatens to beat her child. That triggersandated reporting and I would have gotten her license plate and taken a video, after calling the police. |
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It’s literally the law in California that I have to report abuse, I’m not a Karen. If some low life wants to threaten their child, I’m going to report them. Why? Because it’s the right thing to do AND I could be punished by law for NOT reporting abuse.
“A mandated reporter who fails to make a required report of child abuse is guiltyof a misdemeanor punishable by up tosix months in jail or by a $1,000 fine orby both a fine and imprisonment. (P.C. 11166 (c)) If however, death or great bodily injury happens to the child as a result of the abuse, or if the mandated reporter willfully fails to report the abuse the mandat- ed reporter is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by not more than one year in a county jail, by a fine not to exceed five thousand dollars ($5,000), or by both. (P.C. 11166.01 (b)) He or she may also be found civilly liable for damages,especially if the child-victim or another child is further victimized because of the failure to report. (Landeros v. Flood (1976) 17 Cal.3d 399.) If a mandated reporter conceals his or her failure to report abuse or “severe” neglect, the failure to report is a continuing offense until the failure is discovered by an agency specified in Section 11165.9. (P.C. 11166(c)) Because it is a continuing offense, the statute of limitations does not start to run until the failure to report is discovered.” |
That is the truth! |