BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country

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Anonymous wrote:Agree - this latest version is ROUGH. Only magical thinking supported idea this would just go away because "after two years we are done with it". The minimizers are morons - Covid is the #1 test of our times and we are flunking .

Flight chaos. Doctors and nurses quitting en masse. Politicians and media pandering to our worse instincts.
The worst part is the real consequences are going to be health and economic impact in decades to come from not controlling this - that is our real hidden but ballooning deficit.

And what do you propose we do? Lock people in their houses like China? No thanks

How about basic precautions such as distancing and masking indoors! That would be a better approach to the do nothing and ignore we have now.

Indoor masking for everyone, with high quality masks, would help around the edges with the number of infections. It wouldn’t bring them down to zero or anything though.

Please define what you mean by “distancing” because to me that either sounds like closures or restrictions of indoor public spaces, or stay at home orders. Both of which are a non-starter anywhere in the world right now except for China.

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All the camps, hotels and airports are full. Prices are high and everything still sells out. There are huge lines for gas, and car dealers can’t sell their $50-70k cars fast enough. How is this affecting the economy exactly?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree - this latest version is ROUGH. Only magical thinking supported idea this would just go away because "after two years we are done with it". The minimizers are morons - Covid is the #1 test of our times and we are flunking .

Flight chaos. Doctors and nurses quitting en masse. Politicians and media pandering to our worse instincts.
The worst part is the real consequences are going to be health and economic impact in decades to come from not controlling this - that is our real hidden but ballooning deficit.

And what do you propose we do? Lock people in their houses like China? No thanks

And the government will deliver one bag of rice, and one bag of beans, every week. That's enough for anyone. And you will lose weight! It's a win-win.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree - this latest version is ROUGH. Only magical thinking supported idea this would just go away because "after two years we are done with it". The minimizers are morons - Covid is the #1 test of our times and we are flunking .

Flight chaos. Doctors and nurses quitting en masse. Politicians and media pandering to our worse instincts.
The worst part is the real consequences are going to be health and economic impact in decades to come from not controlling this - that is our real hidden but ballooning deficit.

And what do you propose we do? Lock people in their houses like China? No thanks

How about basic precautions such as distancing and masking indoors! That would be a better approach to the do nothing and ignore we have now.

Indoor masking for everyone, with high quality masks, would help around the edges with the number of infections. It wouldn’t bring them down to zero or anything though.

Please define what you mean by “distancing” because to me that either sounds like closures or restrictions of indoor public spaces, or stay at home orders. Both of which are a non-starter anywhere in the world right now except for China.

No it doesn't. Just look at what happened to Germany last winter.

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The problem to me, is that folks seem to be getting covid more often than a typical cold. How is this not disruptive? I am not worried about the symptoms. It is the repeated life disruptions that come with reinfections.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem to me, is that folks seem to be getting covid more often than a typical cold. How is this not disruptive? I am not worried about the symptoms. It is the repeated life disruptions that come with reinfections.

This is going to gradually subside as we build broader population immunity. Trying to prevent infections will mostly draw this inevitable process out longer.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem to me, is that folks seem to be getting covid more often than a typical cold. How is this not disruptive? I am not worried about the symptoms. It is the repeated life disruptions that come with reinfections.

Not our experience. In our household since December, we’ve had one case of covid and like six colds (confirmed by multiple tests).

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Anonymous wrote:The problem to me, is that folks seem to be getting covid more often than a typical cold. How is this not disruptive? I am not worried about the symptoms. It is the repeated life disruptions that come with reinfections.

I've raised this point before, so I know that someone will soon chime in to say that it's not the infection that's the problem, it's the policies in place to address the infection. There's some truth to that when it comes to quarantine policies, especially for schools and daycares serving younger children.

But more and more, people are actually sick for 3 or more days. I know people who couldn't do anything for five-plus days when laid up with COVID. I've had the flu once in the last 15 years. Once of the reasons that I try to encourage my kids to be careful, while still participating in things that are important to them, is to avoid having to miss important things.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

This is all really easy to say when you’ve never dealt with chronic illness or long term disability. Would be interesting to see what you would say if your good health (or your children’s God forbid) was messed up for life. As another poster says this is just dripping with arrogance, privilege and lack of humility.

Please. Immunocompromised persons can wear N95 masks and social distance. It’s not like they didn’t have to do this during flu season every year before covid. Frankly, your post drips of wishing ill health on the PP.

It’s not that simple.

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Sure it is. I receive chemo weekly. I am immunocompromised. I will wear my N95 when necessary, and I fully expect non immunocompromised to go about their daily lives. We are waaay past 2020 people.

I don’t believe you. If you were really on chemo, you’d know that your N95 is nowhere near full protection for the newest strains of Omicron. Not even close.

I don’t care if you believe me. Just today, my oncologist said “go out. Do things. You don’t need to live in a bubble. Go to a restaurant. Only mask in crowded indoor spaces.”
I am 100% fine with my N95. Doesn’t change things because you don’t believe me.
Please, people, live you’re lives! Don’t let PP hold you back.

As a fellow immunocompromised person, I also didn't believe your first post. Now this your second post? Not a chance a dr told you to eat inside restaurant and "only to mask in crowded indoor spaces" nope! Didn't happen.

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Anonymous wrote:We can’t “live with” a virus that you can be reinfected by within weeks. The long term health costs of this are going to be astronomical. This is a mass disabling event, and doctors and epidemiologists are screaming it.

Finally someone with a brain here.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

Mask wearing comes at a societal cost? GTFOOH. Childish snowflake.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

How pompous can you get.

You mean selfish.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem to me, is that folks seem to be getting covid more often than a typical cold. How is this not disruptive? I am not worried about the symptoms. It is the repeated life disruptions that come with reinfections.

Not our experience. In our household since December, we’ve had one case of covid and like six colds (confirmed by multiple tests).

+1

I don’t know any household getting Covid more often than colds. I would say I know about 100-150 people who’ve have Covid and only 5 or 6 have gotten it twice. Colds? Lots of colds this winter and spring in our house and among friends/family/colleagues. Lots of testing for Covid so they know it was just a cold.

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Sure it is. I receive chemo weekly. I am immunocompromised. I will wear my N95 when necessary, and I fully expect non immunocompromised to go about their daily lives. We are waaay past 2020 people.

I don’t believe you. If you were really on chemo, you’d know that your N95 is nowhere near full protection for the newest strains of Omicron. Not even close.

I don’t care if you believe me. Just today, my oncologist said “go out. Do things. You don’t need to live in a bubble. Go to a restaurant. Only mask in crowded indoor spaces.”
I am 100% fine with my N95. Doesn’t change things because you don’t believe me.
Please, people, live you’re lives! Don’t let PP hold you back.

Two possibilities: Either you live in a state like Florida, or you have a stage 4 cancer, and your oncologist thinks you should go to restaurants now rather than wait out chemo (even if you don't get seriously sick from covid, why would you want to have to postpone a covid cycle due to getting covid?) - because you might be dead in 6 months. I hope it's the former. The reality is that crowded indoor spaces would be much safer for everyone if those sick with covid actually wore masks...and any serious oncologist knows this.

It’s just killing you that my oncologist right here with Maryland Oncology and Hematology disagrees with you, doesn’t it? And no, I am not stage 4. My prognosis is excellent. Would you like to keep assuming some more sh!t that just isn’t true?



I agree with this. I am immunocompromised. I wore an N95 constantly during my trip (indoors and in crowds outdoors) and exclusively ate outside in restaurants. I wore an N95 for the entire flight, didn’t eat, and drank water through a straw under my mask. All that and I got Covid! It’s been very rough.

I have college aged kids. We always mask indoors and in crowded outdoor spaces. Everyone has traveled and socialized while wearing masks. Kids eat at restaurants with friends and stay masked but drop it to eat. None of us have had covid. Masks are effective and so simple. It is ridiculous that we are still arguing about this. We've lost several friends to covid.

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Anonymous wrote:We can’t “live with” a virus that you can be reinfected by within weeks. The long term health costs of this are going to be astronomical. This is a mass disabling event, and doctors and epidemiologists are screaming it.

Always has been. Duh. Messaging should’ve been better from the start, even if the primary message was “we just don’t know and we’re doing what we think is best based on the info we have right now.” This administration especially has lost all credibility - just look at the number of people willing to vaccinate their under 5’s after all that ridiculous back and forth - it’s minuscule.

Bottom line - it’s an airborne pathogen with the ability to mutate continuously. The outcome is kinda obvious.