BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We can’t “live with” a virus that you can be reinfected by within weeks. The long term health costs of this are going to be astronomical. This is a mass disabling event, and doctors and epidemiologists are screaming it.

Yes, like Dr. Jeffrey Wiseman:

https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/the-future-of-endemic-covid-19

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree - this latest version is ROUGH. Only magical thinking supported idea this would just go away because "after two years we are done with it". The minimizers are morons - Covid is the #1 test of our times and we are flunking .

Flight chaos. Doctors and nurses quitting en masse. Politicians and media pandering to our worse instincts.
The worst part is the real consequences are going to be health and economic impact in decades to come from not controlling this - that is our real hidden but ballooning deficit.

And what do you propose we do? Lock people in their houses like China? No thanks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree - this latest version is ROUGH. Only magical thinking supported idea this would just go away because "after two years we are done with it". The minimizers are morons - Covid is the #1 test of our times and we are flunking .

Flight chaos. Doctors and nurses quitting en masse. Politicians and media pandering to our worse instincts.
The worst part is the real consequences are going to be health and economic impact in decades to come from not controlling this - that is our real hidden but ballooning deficit.

Historians will eventually determine how much of this was caused by the virus itself and how much was due to our response to it.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

This is all really easy to say when you’ve never dealt with chronic illness or long term disability. Would be interesting to see what you would say if your good health (or your children’s God forbid) was messed up for life. As another poster says this is just dripping with arrogance, privilege and lack of humility.

Please. Immunocompromised persons can wear N95 masks and social distance. It’s not like they didn’t have to do this during flu season every year before covid. Frankly, your post drips of wishing ill health on the PP.

It’s not that simple.

NP
Sure it is. I receive chemo weekly. I am immunocompromised. I will wear my N95 when necessary, and I fully expect non immunocompromised to go about their daily lives. We are waaay past 2020 people.

I don’t believe you. If you were really on chemo, you’d know that your N95 is nowhere near full protection for the newest strains of Omicron. Not even close.

I don’t care if you believe me. Just today, my oncologist said “go out. Do things. You don’t need to live in a bubble. Go to a restaurant. Only mask in crowded indoor spaces.”
I am 100% fine with my N95. Doesn’t change things because you don’t believe me.
Please, people, live you’re lives! Don’t let PP hold you back.

NP. Thank you. You are a wise person, and I wish you the best for your recovery.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree - this latest version is ROUGH. Only magical thinking supported idea this would just go away because "after two years we are done with it". The minimizers are morons - Covid is the #1 test of our times and we are flunking .

Flight chaos. Doctors and nurses quitting en masse. Politicians and media pandering to our worse instincts.
The worst part is the real consequences are going to be health and economic impact in decades to come from not controlling this - that is our real hidden but ballooning deficit.

And what do you propose we do? Lock people in their houses like China? No thanks

How about basic precautions such as distancing and masking indoors! That would be a better approach to the do nothing and ignore we have now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We can’t “live with” a virus that you can be reinfected by within weeks. The long term health costs of this are going to be astronomical. This is a mass disabling event, and doctors and epidemiologists are screaming it.

Yes, like Dr. Jeffrey Wiseman:

https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/the-future-of-endemic-covid-19

You just posted a blog post on substack from an antisemite? Do better.

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NP
Sure it is. I receive chemo weekly. I am immunocompromised. I will wear my N95 when necessary, and I fully expect non immunocompromised to go about their daily lives. We are waaay past 2020 people.

I don’t believe you. If you were really on chemo, you’d know that your N95 is nowhere near full protection for the newest strains of Omicron. Not even close.

I don’t care if you believe me. Just today, my oncologist said “go out. Do things. You don’t need to live in a bubble. Go to a restaurant. Only mask in crowded indoor spaces.”
I am 100% fine with my N95. Doesn’t change things because you don’t believe me.
Please, people, live you’re lives! Don’t let PP hold you back.

Two possibilities: Either you live in a state like Florida, or you have a stage 4 cancer, and your oncologist thinks you should go to restaurants now rather than wait out chemo (even if you don't get seriously sick from covid, why would you want to have to postpone a covid cycle due to getting covid?) - because you might be dead in 6 months. I hope it's the former. The reality is that crowded indoor spaces would be much safer for everyone if those sick with covid actually wore masks...and any serious oncologist knows this.

It’s just killing you that my oncologist right here with Maryland Oncology and Hematology disagrees with you, doesn’t it? And no, I am not stage 4. My prognosis is excellent. Would you like to keep assuming some more sh!t that just isn’t true?

Today is Saturday. No, I don’t believe you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I currently have Covid, which I suspect is BA.5 because I got Covid in Europe. It sucks!

And, you thoughtfully brought it back here.

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NP
Sure it is. I receive chemo weekly. I am immunocompromised. I will wear my N95 when necessary, and I fully expect non immunocompromised to go about their daily lives. We are waaay past 2020 people.

I don’t believe you. If you were really on chemo, you’d know that your N95 is nowhere near full protection for the newest strains of Omicron. Not even close.

I don’t care if you believe me. Just today, my oncologist said “go out. Do things. You don’t need to live in a bubble. Go to a restaurant. Only mask in crowded indoor spaces.”
I am 100% fine with my N95. Doesn’t change things because you don’t believe me.
Please, people, live you’re lives! Don’t let PP hold you back.

Two possibilities: Either you live in a state like Florida, or you have a stage 4 cancer, and your oncologist thinks you should go to restaurants now rather than wait out chemo (even if you don't get seriously sick from covid, why would you want to have to postpone a covid cycle due to getting covid?) - because you might be dead in 6 months. I hope it's the former. The reality is that crowded indoor spaces would be much safer for everyone if those sick with covid actually wore masks...and any serious oncologist knows this.

It’s just killing you that my oncologist right here with Maryland Oncology and Hematology disagrees with you, doesn’t it? And no, I am not stage 4. My prognosis is excellent. Would you like to keep assuming some more sh!t that just isn’t true?



I agree with this. I am immunocompromised. I wore an N95 constantly during my trip (indoors and in crowds outdoors) and exclusively ate outside in restaurants. I wore an N95 for the entire flight, didn’t eat, and drank water through a straw under my mask. All that and I got Covid! It’s been very rough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree - this latest version is ROUGH. Only magical thinking supported idea this would just go away because "after two years we are done with it". The minimizers are morons - Covid is the #1 test of our times and we are flunking .

Flight chaos. Doctors and nurses quitting en masse. Politicians and media pandering to our worse instincts.
The worst part is the real consequences are going to be health and economic impact in decades to come from not controlling this - that is our real hidden but ballooning deficit.

And what do you propose we do? Lock people in their houses like China? No thanks

How about basic precautions such as distancing and masking indoors! That would be a better approach to the do nothing and ignore we have now.

So generally ineffective mitigation methods? How about fact that we have a very effective therapeutic so let’s move on.

[Anonymous]

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NP
Sure it is. I receive chemo weekly. I am immunocompromised. I will wear my N95 when necessary, and I fully expect non immunocompromised to go about their daily lives. We are waaay past 2020 people.

I don’t believe you. If you were really on chemo, you’d know that your N95 is nowhere near full protection for the newest strains of Omicron. Not even close.

I don’t care if you believe me. Just today, my oncologist said “go out. Do things. You don’t need to live in a bubble. Go to a restaurant. Only mask in crowded indoor spaces.”
I am 100% fine with my N95. Doesn’t change things because you don’t believe me.
Please, people, live you’re lives! Don’t let PP hold you back.

Two possibilities: Either you live in a state like Florida, or you have a stage 4 cancer, and your oncologist thinks you should go to restaurants now rather than wait out chemo (even if you don't get seriously sick from covid, why would you want to have to postpone a covid cycle due to getting covid?) - because you might be dead in 6 months. I hope it's the former. The reality is that crowded indoor spaces would be much safer for everyone if those sick with covid actually wore masks...and any serious oncologist knows this.

It’s just killing you that my oncologist right here with Maryland Oncology and Hematology disagrees with you, doesn’t it? And no, I am not stage 4. My prognosis is excellent. Would you like to keep assuming some more sh!t that just isn’t true?

Today is Saturday. No, I don’t believe you.


Your belief or disbelief in my story is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

It’s so amazing that when someone doesn’t agree with you you insist they are making things up. It’s so astounding to you that you MAY NOT BE RIGHT, that the only rational explanation is that the other person absolutely must be lying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree - this latest version is ROUGH. Only magical thinking supported idea this would just go away because "after two years we are done with it". The minimizers are morons - Covid is the #1 test of our times and we are flunking .

Flight chaos. Doctors and nurses quitting en masse. Politicians and media pandering to our worse instincts.
The worst part is the real consequences are going to be health and economic impact in decades to come from not controlling this - that is our real hidden but ballooning deficit.

And what do you propose we do? Lock people in their houses like China? No thanks

How about basic precautions such as distancing and masking indoors! That would be a better approach to the do nothing and ignore we have now.

NP. If only the data didn't show that even N95 mandates like they had in Germany didn't make a difference...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

This is all really easy to say when you’ve never dealt with chronic illness or long term disability. Would be interesting to see what you would say if your good health (or your children’s God forbid) was messed up for life. As another poster says this is just dripping with arrogance, privilege and lack of humility.

Ok but how much longer would you like those without risks to stay inside, mask and quarantine when the best we can do via vaccines is already here. Another year? Two? Fifteen?

When has a healthy child's debt to others been paid?

How about we all work together given we all live, work and socialize in a highly populated area. What debt have you paid? I got sick a month ago, got better, caught something else and in bed for two weeks now? My kids have been in virtual and outside a few activities we are home and don’t see anyone. We,ve done our part and my kids will continue to pay the price for your unwillingness to take part in basic precautions. It’s not your kids paying the price, it’s mine. Your kids are not paying the price as you don’t care and did not teach them to care about the needs of others. It’s all about you and your wants.

The vaccines were not formulated for the new mutations.

So, you’re traipsing around and getting sick twice in one month and lecturing others about their actions? Ok cuckoo. If you’re running around getting sick anyway, why lock your kids up and make them into antisocial weirdos? You’re kids are playing a price alright…a price for mommy’s mental illness.

I am not running around getting sick. I am home. My kid got it from sports, shared it with me, I gave it back and then caught it again. I rarely go out.

You're probably picking these things up for prolonged periods of time BECAUSE you "rarely go out". We knew before COVID that (outside of being immunocompromised to the point it could kill you) rarely challenging the immune system was not ideal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We can’t “live with” a virus that you can be reinfected by within weeks. The long term health costs of this are going to be astronomical. This is a mass disabling event, and doctors and epidemiologists are screaming it.

Yes, like Dr. Jeffrey Wiseman:

https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/the-future-of-endemic-covid-19

What's sad is I'm sure there is someone on this website willing to follow those protocols, not realizing the author is being satirical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We can’t “live with” a virus that you can be reinfected by within weeks. The long term health costs of this are going to be astronomical. This is a mass disabling event, and doctors and epidemiologists are screaming it.

Yeah right. This is such a "disabling" event society is collapsing because of it. Stop being hysterical... most people around me have gotten covid and while it's not pleasant it's no big deal and life goes on. A small minority (primarily elderly/sick people or unlucky ones) have bad outcomes, despite vaccines. While one should be sympathetic - just like one is sympathetic to any deaths, it's not a reason to disrupt everyone's life anymore.