I linked to her written follow up in the first post of this thread. An exact quote from that response is: "I think the United States is better off with fewer Asians and less Asian immigration." That is a bigoted statement. |
Maybe they don’t really care about meritocracy, maybe they don’t have a problem with the majority of “non-meritorious” admissions being legacy admissions because ultimately they want to reap the benefits that gaining access to those of a much higher social class would confer. At the root of all of this is greed and entitlement. No group is immune from wanting more, and wanting it at the expense of exclusion of others that they perceive to be less powerful, less worthy, less deserving, or whom they view as having nothing of value to exploit. As if the golden key to wealth and power Is proximity to whiteness. |
If we construct a legal syllogism from these paragraphs, wouldn't it be something like: 1) The US would be better off with fewer Democrats, 2) The overwhelming majority of Asian Americans and Asian immigrants vote for Democrats, 3) Therefore, the US would be better off with fewer Asian Americans and less Asian immigration? Its targeting Asian Americans and immigrants for being (per her) Democratic-partisans as Americans, rather than targeting a cultural or immutable characteristic of being Asian. It could be a partisan screed rather than a racial screed. Having said that, it seems an ill-advised line of argument to make in an environment when identity is political. |
m I’m confused. I thought Asians where American. So, why is it “American politics” as opposed to national politics? Many Asians have said that the foreigner trope has often been used for racist depictions, but your argument is relying on that premise in some way. While I think Wax has gone about it in a ham fisted way, and don’t always agree with her conclusion, all I took away from her article is that there are fundamental/underlying differences Asians exhibit. And based off your comments, that seems to be true. I think the real issue, is whether it is ultimately of any consequence or if thats a dog whistle. I think its a dog whistle. |
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As an Asian American neither partly particularly appeals to me.
I'm not a fan of the frequent denial of science on the Republican side, and what happened on 1/6 was abhorrent. But at least they believe in the concept of a meritocracy, as imperfect as it may be. Democrats seem more rational overall, but Ds repeatedly treat Asians like second class citizens. I feel like I've heard more racism and stereotyping coming from Democrats which is quite ironic. The whole concept of Asians being white adjacent or white supremacists is like wtf. Yet, Democrats seem more baffled when Asians don't show them loyalty. Well, when's the last time you really celebrated Asian American success? Should it be a surprise many Asians are having second thoughts? |
What are you talking about? GOP does not believe in meritocracy unless they are using the word to divide the minority. They believe in White supremacy without any merit. GOP has been the party that is proud of anti-intellectualism. They advertise education as an elitism. They want Asians to fight with Blacks and other POC for limited opportunities so that we stay blinded and not question their hold on the rest of the opportunities. Wake up! As for your comments about Democrats, please provide examples. I do not believe your opinion is rooted in evidence. |
+1 I was just thinking the same thing |
Last I checked, Democrats are the ones pushing the idea that meritocracy is a myth. While it's not perfect, there are many immigrants who have made a better life for themselves through hard work and determination. That includes black immigrants. Again, it's not perfect by any means, but immigrants and children of immigrants seem to do okay. Many progressives, on the other hand, want to say that a meritocracy doesn't exist and that Asians are somehow white adjacent or white supremacists. That doesn't sound offensive and racist? The GOP aren't the ones trying to banish standardized tests, repeal Prop 209, and reform magnet schools like TJ, Lowell, and Stuyvesant. Pop into any thread about these school issues and see how many people accuse Asians of basically being undeserving of their spots at these magnet schools. There are too many Asians, so they must be cheating. There are too many Asians, so they must not be gifted. There are too many Asians, so the school must be toxic. It's mostly Democrats that are lobbing those accusations. Then you have the clear disrespect exhibited by school boards toward Asians: https://www.wbur.org/news/2020/10/22/loconto-mocking-resigns https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/11/27/community-education-council-22-jackie-cody-asian-slur-yellow-folks/ https://apnews.com/article/race-and-ethnicity-school-boards-san-francisco-0f13b0a16562f4e30bdc575a84285a6b https://missionlocal.org/2021/03/alison-collins-school-board-tweets/ Alison Collins still has her job by the way, even though she literally referred to Asians as "house n****r". Then there's Andrew Yang being depicted as a foreign tourist in the NYC mayoral race. https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202105/1224439.shtml Incredibly racist, right? You'd be surprised how neutral the media was on this issue and how many New Yorkers defended the cartoonist. Also, Boston just elected it's first Asian American mayor. Should be great, right? Here's the headline of one of the first articles published afterward: "Why Boston will need to wait longer for its 1st elected Black mayor." https://www.npr.org/2021/11/16/1055972179/boston-first-black-mayor Again, when is the last time Democrats celebrated Asian American success? Democrats seem to want to punch Asians down and then tell them it's good for them. |
You sound like your recognize that voters that support or lean R are not a monolith, and that you would find fellow travelers in what Pew labels the new era enterprisers. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2017/10/24/political-typology-reveals-deep-fissures-on-the-right-and-left/ |
I think that it is notable that the current Vice President -- a Democrat -- is half Asian. There are currently two US Senators of Asian heritage -- both Democrats. There are currently 16 House members of Asian decent, all but two of whom are Democrats. So, Democrats seem to be celebrating Asian Americans fairly well at the polls. |
| The law school just rebuked this professor. |
Not enough. |
yes, the repeal of 209 failed because LIBERALs didn't want to overturn it. You also ignore facts placed right in front of you, my friend. You ignored everything I wrote about, and even your response to 209 repeal shows that not all liberals support affirmative action. You are in the minority right now. Majority of Asian Americans, even the educated ones, don't support Rs these days. Maybe if they swing back to the moderate days Asian Americans might go back. Of course, if the Dem party swings way too left, you might see more Asian Americans becoming Independent and voting whoever is the least extreme. |
I'm asian and I agree with this. |
The republicans are consistent on another thing: white supremacy. Enjoy that - I’m sure it’ll work out great for ya! |