UPenn Law Professor Amy Wax: US "better off with fewer Asians and less Asian immigration"

Anonymous
The game is afoot! And by game, I mean the uniquely American pastime of electioneering. Hypothesis: both Rs and Ds perceive the votes of Asian Americans as being in play. Supporting evidence: (1) why else would the observations of Matt Taibbi on the election results in Loudon County (https://taibbi.substack.com/p/loudoun-county-virginia-a-culture), the epitome of local politics, get pushed out nationally (see https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/schools-immigration-loudoun-county-critical-race-theory/), and, shortly thereafter, (2) why else would Wax's comments, presumably only of direct consequence to her students, similarly get pushed nationally (https://www.thedailybeast.com/racist-penn-law-prof-amy-wax-makes-disturbing-claim-us-is-better-off-with-fewer-asians).
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Anonymous wrote:The game is afoot! And by game, I mean the uniquely American pastime of electioneering. Hypothesis: both Rs and Ds perceive the votes of Asian Americans as being in play. Supporting evidence: (1) why else would the observations of Matt Taibbi on the election results in Loudon County (https://taibbi.substack.com/p/loudoun-county-virginia-a-culture), the epitome of local politics, get pushed out nationally (see https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/schools-immigration-loudoun-county-critical-race-theory/), and, shortly thereafter, (2) why else would Wax's comments, presumably only of direct consequence to her students, similarly get pushed nationally (https://www.thedailybeast.com/racist-penn-law-prof-amy-wax-makes-disturbing-claim-us-is-better-off-with-fewer-asians).


Not to be pedantic but Asian voters represented 3% of the vote in Virginia. It was a footnote not a demographic swing by any measure.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2021/november/exit-polls/virginia/governor/0
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this Jeff.

I'm an Asian American who is also a Republican. I don't believe her views represent the mainstream in the Republican party. The existence of people like her doesn't change my preference for political positions aligned with classical liberalism, which currently is the Republican party. There are terrible people who call themselves Republicans and I am not going to abandon my values just because there are some bad people who hold abhorrent views also have these same values.


Can I just say...a party that doesn't cancel a President or any leadership that repeatedly stokes hate by referring to a 'K*ng Flu virus' or 'China virus' is one that represents the mainstream in the Republican party. You can't have it both ways, you either see this anti-Asian rhetoric solely in GOP leadership or you don't. Vote for them or don't. But don't complain when more anti-asian policies and rhetoric are espoused.




It's not having it both ways for me to support the parts of Republican party platform I agree with even though there are terrible people in the party. I'll note that Republican is the party that is trying to put in place a merit-based immigration system, one which will predominantly benefit Asian Americans. Democrats are fighting tooth and nail against such a merit-based system.


Republicans, led by Trump, are also the ones who put in place a complete and total visa ban, which predominantly discriminated against Asian Americans. I mean sure you can support the GOP just say you don't care if or when any racist policies come forth and are announced straight from the microphones at the White House and affect people who look like you.


I'm smart enough to know that the visa ban was done to limit international travel due to COVID. It was not aimed at Asians, Asians just felt a significant impact. The same could be said of professional sports game ban against African Americans, although it would be foolish to claim that such a ban was racist against AAs. The only real actual racist policy I know of are from Democrats who support affirmative action to discriminate against Asians based on the color of our skin. They defend this practice all the way to the supreme court.

Look, if you are so concerned about the welfare of Asian immigrants, join the Republicans in calling for merit-based immigration system, which will predominantly benefit south and east Asians.

Let's play this out. Let's say that the US implements a merit based system, which leads to a large up tick in Asian immigrants. Do you think she and the rest of the Rs would be happy about that? Sersiously? Asian Americans vote D. You think white Rs would want more Dems? They may talk about a "merit" system, but once that cat is out of the bag, they will try to find ways to limit Asian influence.

I'll say it again.. Rs are using Asian Americans as a convenience. They treat Asian Americans as a patsy, like the model minority myth.
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this Jeff.

I'm an Asian American who is also a Republican. I don't believe her views represent the mainstream in the Republican party. The existence of people like her doesn't change my preference for political positions aligned with classical liberalism, which currently is the Republican party. There are terrible people who call themselves Republicans and I am not going to abandon my values just because there are some bad people who hold abhorrent views also have these same values.


Can I just say...a party that doesn't cancel a President or any leadership that repeatedly stokes hate by referring to a 'K*ng Flu virus' or 'China virus' is one that represents the mainstream in the Republican party. You can't have it both ways, you either see this anti-Asian rhetoric solely in GOP leadership or you don't. Vote for them or don't. But don't complain when more anti-asian policies and rhetoric are espoused.




It's not having it both ways for me to support the parts of Republican party platform I agree with even though there are terrible people in the party. I'll note that Republican is the party that is trying to put in place a merit-based immigration system, one which will predominantly benefit Asian Americans. Democrats are fighting tooth and nail against such a merit-based system.


Republicans, led by Trump, are also the ones who put in place a complete and total visa ban, which predominantly discriminated against Asian Americans. I mean sure you can support the GOP just say you don't care if or when any racist policies come forth and are announced straight from the microphones at the White House and affect people who look like you.


I'm smart enough to know that the visa ban was done to limit international travel due to COVID. It was not aimed at Asians, Asians just felt a significant impact. The same could be said of professional sports game ban against African Americans, although it would be foolish to claim that such a ban was racist against AAs. The only real actual racist policy I know of are from Democrats who support affirmative action to discriminate against Asians based on the color of our skin. They defend this practice all the way to the supreme court.

Look, if you are so concerned about the welfare of Asian immigrants, join the Republicans in calling for merit-based immigration system, which will predominantly benefit south and east Asians.

Let's play this out. Let's say that the US implements a merit based system, which leads to a large up tick in Asian immigrants. Do you think she and the rest of the Rs would be happy about that? Sersiously? Asian Americans vote D. You think white Rs would want more Dems? They may talk about a "merit" system, but once that cat is out of the bag, they will try to find ways to limit Asian influence.

I'll say it again.. Rs are using Asian Americans as a convenience. They treat Asian Americans as a patsy, like the model minority myth.


They really do and Asians are the first target to smack down if something goes wrong. Oh well.
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this Jeff.

I'm an Asian American who is also a Republican. I don't believe her views represent the mainstream in the Republican party. The existence of people like her doesn't change my preference for political positions aligned with classical liberalism, which currently is the Republican party. There are terrible people who call themselves Republicans and I am not going to abandon my values just because there are some bad people who hold abhorrent views also have these same values.


Can I just say...a party that doesn't cancel a President or any leadership that repeatedly stokes hate by referring to a 'K*ng Flu virus' or 'China virus' is one that represents the mainstream in the Republican party. You can't have it both ways, you either see this anti-Asian rhetoric solely in GOP leadership or you don't. Vote for them or don't. But don't complain when more anti-asian policies and rhetoric are espoused.




It's not having it both ways for me to support the parts of Republican party platform I agree with even though there are terrible people in the party. I'll note that Republican is the party that is trying to put in place a merit-based immigration system, one which will predominantly benefit Asian Americans. Democrats are fighting tooth and nail against such a merit-based system.

Most Asian Americans who came here prior to 2000 were not highly educated, my family included. If Trump had been in office when my Asian immigrant family tried to come to the US, we would not have been able to immigrate here. You can say, "That was then, this is now", but that would be a "shut the door behind me" attitude. Also, a lot of Asian Americans came here via family connections, mine included.

I'm a PP who stated that I used to be a R. As a PP stated.. "that ship has sailed". The R party of today is no longer the party of Reagan. Even Bush can't stand Trump. During Trump's tenure, many high profiled Rs left the party. There's a reason for that.

Do you really think that white Rs will be so happy to have educated Asian Americans take over the corporate world, elite institutions, politics? No. We're just a convenience for them. The Model Minority myth was created by white people in power against the poorer African American group.

Why do you suppose the vast majority of Asian Americans are no longer Rs? Back in the 80s, the majority of Asian Americans were Rs, but slowly that's shifted.

https://theconversation.com/asian-americans-political-preferences-have-flipped-from-red-to-blue-145577

Why do you suppose this racist person wrote what she did? She didn't call out Latinos. She called out Asians.


It's rather irrational for you to make a claim with insufficient evidence. Research shows that Asian immigrants have always trended to be higher educated than US Born persons, even prior to 2000s:

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/09/14/education-levels-of-u-s-immigrants-are-on-the-rise/

I also don't think it's fair to judge what people would have done outside of the era they live in. People are the product of their environments. Would AOC be so fond of socialism during the cold war era? We don't know. If you were a Republican and are no longer, then you were never a Republican to begin with. This is especially born out by comments such as this is no longer Reagan's party or Bush's party. Republicanism is an idea, it's not built around idealized personalities like JFK or Obama. Yes, there are a lot of people who idolized/idolizes Reagan, but those people are misguided if they think one person or even a small group of people is representative of Republicans.

I'm part of the party. There are those who are trying to lead it astray, but it's up to me to be steadfast in holding onto ideals that I believe in, and not let those people drive me away from the convictions that I live by.



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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this Jeff.

I'm an Asian American who is also a Republican. I don't believe her views represent the mainstream in the Republican party. The existence of people like her doesn't change my preference for political positions aligned with classical liberalism, which currently is the Republican party. There are terrible people who call themselves Republicans and I am not going to abandon my values just because there are some bad people who hold abhorrent views also have these same values.


Can I just say...a party that doesn't cancel a President or any leadership that repeatedly stokes hate by referring to a 'K*ng Flu virus' or 'China virus' is one that represents the mainstream in the Republican party. You can't have it both ways, you either see this anti-Asian rhetoric solely in GOP leadership or you don't. Vote for them or don't. But don't complain when more anti-asian policies and rhetoric are espoused.




It's not having it both ways for me to support the parts of Republican party platform I agree with even though there are terrible people in the party. I'll note that Republican is the party that is trying to put in place a merit-based immigration system, one which will predominantly benefit Asian Americans. Democrats are fighting tooth and nail against such a merit-based system.


Republicans, led by Trump, are also the ones who put in place a complete and total visa ban, which predominantly discriminated against Asian Americans. I mean sure you can support the GOP just say you don't care if or when any racist policies come forth and are announced straight from the microphones at the White House and affect people who look like you.


I'm smart enough to know that the visa ban was done to limit international travel due to COVID. It was not aimed at Asians, Asians just felt a significant impact. The same could be said of professional sports game ban against African Americans, although it would be foolish to claim that such a ban was racist against AAs. The only real actual racist policy I know of are from Democrats who support affirmative action to discriminate against Asians based on the color of our skin. They defend this practice all the way to the supreme court.

Look, if you are so concerned about the welfare of Asian immigrants, join the Republicans in calling for merit-based immigration system, which will predominantly benefit south and east Asians.

Let's play this out. Let's say that the US implements a merit based system, which leads to a large up tick in Asian immigrants. Do you think she and the rest of the Rs would be happy about that? Sersiously? Asian Americans vote D. You think white Rs would want more Dems? They may talk about a "merit" system, but once that cat is out of the bag, they will try to find ways to limit Asian influence.

I'll say it again.. Rs are using Asian Americans as a convenience. They treat Asian Americans as a patsy, like the model minority myth.


Well, lets arrive at our decision based on facts. Republican party tried to get Affirmative Action banned, Democrats are protecting it in court. Republicans want a merit-based immigration system, which we all know will benefit Asians. Democrats wants to hold on to the lottery system in the name of diversity. I'd say that's pretty clear indication which party is better for Asians.

Nobody uses me unless I let them. I'm my own person with my own ideas. You can keep telling me that Republicans are anti-Asian but the evidence says otherwise. You have nothing to offer but fear.
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this Jeff.

I'm an Asian American who is also a Republican. I don't believe her views represent the mainstream in the Republican party. The existence of people like her doesn't change my preference for political positions aligned with classical liberalism, which currently is the Republican party. There are terrible people who call themselves Republicans and I am not going to abandon my values just because there are some bad people who hold abhorrent views also have these same values.


Can I just say...a party that doesn't cancel a President or any leadership that repeatedly stokes hate by referring to a 'K*ng Flu virus' or 'China virus' is one that represents the mainstream in the Republican party. You can't have it both ways, you either see this anti-Asian rhetoric solely in GOP leadership or you don't. Vote for them or don't. But don't complain when more anti-asian policies and rhetoric are espoused.




It's not having it both ways for me to support the parts of Republican party platform I agree with even though there are terrible people in the party. I'll note that Republican is the party that is trying to put in place a merit-based immigration system, one which will predominantly benefit Asian Americans. Democrats are fighting tooth and nail against such a merit-based system.


Republicans, led by Trump, are also the ones who put in place a complete and total visa ban, which predominantly discriminated against Asian Americans. I mean sure you can support the GOP just say you don't care if or when any racist policies come forth and are announced straight from the microphones at the White House and affect people who look like you.


I'm smart enough to know that the visa ban was done to limit international travel due to COVID. It was not aimed at Asians, Asians just felt a significant impact. The same could be said of professional sports game ban against African Americans, although it would be foolish to claim that such a ban was racist against AAs. The only real actual racist policy I know of are from Democrats who support affirmative action to discriminate against Asians based on the color of our skin. They defend this practice all the way to the supreme court.

Look, if you are so concerned about the welfare of Asian immigrants, join the Republicans in calling for merit-based immigration system, which will predominantly benefit south and east Asians.

Let's play this out. Let's say that the US implements a merit based system, which leads to a large up tick in Asian immigrants. Do you think she and the rest of the Rs would be happy about that? Sersiously? Asian Americans vote D. You think white Rs would want more Dems? They may talk about a "merit" system, but once that cat is out of the bag, they will try to find ways to limit Asian influence.

I'll say it again.. Rs are using Asian Americans as a convenience. They treat Asian Americans as a patsy, like the model minority myth.


Well, lets arrive at our decision based on facts. Republican party tried to get Affirmative Action banned, Democrats are protecting it in court. Republicans want a merit-based immigration system, which we all know will benefit Asians. Democrats wants to hold on to the lottery system in the name of diversity. I'd say that's pretty clear indication which party is better for Asians.

Nobody uses me unless I let them. I'm my own person with my own ideas. You can keep telling me that Republicans are anti-Asian but the evidence says otherwise. You have nothing to offer but fear.


A 'merit-based immigration' system? You mean a pay-to-play system like Canada where you can buy golden visas? No thanks.
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Anonymous wrote:The game is afoot! And by game, I mean the uniquely American pastime of electioneering. Hypothesis: both Rs and Ds perceive the votes of Asian Americans as being in play. Supporting evidence: (1) why else would the observations of Matt Taibbi on the election results in Loudon County (https://taibbi.substack.com/p/loudoun-county-virginia-a-culture), the epitome of local politics, get pushed out nationally (see https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/schools-immigration-loudoun-county-critical-race-theory/), and, shortly thereafter, (2) why else would Wax's comments, presumably only of direct consequence to her students, similarly get pushed nationally (https://www.thedailybeast.com/racist-penn-law-prof-amy-wax-makes-disturbing-claim-us-is-better-off-with-fewer-asians).


Not to be pedantic but Asian voters represented 3% of the vote in Virginia. It was a footnote not a demographic swing by any measure.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2021/november/exit-polls/virginia/governor/0


So why push either story with obvious partisan slants? Votes are at stake.
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this Jeff.

I'm an Asian American who is also a Republican. I don't believe her views represent the mainstream in the Republican party. The existence of people like her doesn't change my preference for political positions aligned with classical liberalism, which currently is the Republican party. There are terrible people who call themselves Republicans and I am not going to abandon my values just because there are some bad people who hold abhorrent views also have these same values.


Can I just say...a party that doesn't cancel a President or any leadership that repeatedly stokes hate by referring to a 'K*ng Flu virus' or 'China virus' is one that represents the mainstream in the Republican party. You can't have it both ways, you either see this anti-Asian rhetoric solely in GOP leadership or you don't. Vote for them or don't. But don't complain when more anti-asian policies and rhetoric are espoused.




It's not having it both ways for me to support the parts of Republican party platform I agree with even though there are terrible people in the party. I'll note that Republican is the party that is trying to put in place a merit-based immigration system, one which will predominantly benefit Asian Americans. Democrats are fighting tooth and nail against such a merit-based system.


Republicans, led by Trump, are also the ones who put in place a complete and total visa ban, which predominantly discriminated against Asian Americans. I mean sure you can support the GOP just say you don't care if or when any racist policies come forth and are announced straight from the microphones at the White House and affect people who look like you.


I'm smart enough to know that the visa ban was done to limit international travel due to COVID. It was not aimed at Asians, Asians just felt a significant impact. The same could be said of professional sports game ban against African Americans, although it would be foolish to claim that such a ban was racist against AAs. The only real actual racist policy I know of are from Democrats who support affirmative action to discriminate against Asians based on the color of our skin. They defend this practice all the way to the supreme court.

Look, if you are so concerned about the welfare of Asian immigrants, join the Republicans in calling for merit-based immigration system, which will predominantly benefit south and east Asians.

Let's play this out. Let's say that the US implements a merit based system, which leads to a large up tick in Asian immigrants. Do you think she and the rest of the Rs would be happy about that? Sersiously? Asian Americans vote D. You think white Rs would want more Dems? They may talk about a "merit" system, but once that cat is out of the bag, they will try to find ways to limit Asian influence.

I'll say it again.. Rs are using Asian Americans as a convenience. They treat Asian Americans as a patsy, like the model minority myth.


Well, lets arrive at our decision based on facts. Republican party tried to get Affirmative Action banned, Democrats are protecting it in court. Republicans want a merit-based immigration system, which we all know will benefit Asians. Democrats wants to hold on to the lottery system in the name of diversity. I'd say that's pretty clear indication which party is better for Asians.

Nobody uses me unless I let them. I'm my own person with my own ideas. You can keep telling me that Republicans are anti-Asian but the evidence says otherwise. You have nothing to offer but fear.

You are letting Rs use you as a convenience simply by supporting Rs.

Why do you think 70% of uneducated white males are Rs?
Why do you think the more educated you are, the more you tend to vote Dem, which is also why this racist prof. wants to limit Asian immigration.
Why do the majority of Asian Americans vote Dem? CA voted to do away with affirmative action with Prop 209. Affirmative action in university admissions is not legal. Race can be one factor, but quotas and affirmative action are not legal. And yet, Asian Americans still vote Dem. Why is that?
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Every time she talks with the brilliant Professor Loury (he’s not in the left, by the way), it does not go well for her. My jaw dropped when I heard these comments.
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this Jeff.

I'm an Asian American who is also a Republican. I don't believe her views represent the mainstream in the Republican party. The existence of people like her doesn't change my preference for political positions aligned with classical liberalism, which currently is the Republican party. There are terrible people who call themselves Republicans and I am not going to abandon my values just because there are some bad people who hold abhorrent views also have these same values.


Can I just say...a party that doesn't cancel a President or any leadership that repeatedly stokes hate by referring to a 'K*ng Flu virus' or 'China virus' is one that represents the mainstream in the Republican party. You can't have it both ways, you either see this anti-Asian rhetoric solely in GOP leadership or you don't. Vote for them or don't. But don't complain when more anti-asian policies and rhetoric are espoused.




It's not having it both ways for me to support the parts of Republican party platform I agree with even though there are terrible people in the party. I'll note that Republican is the party that is trying to put in place a merit-based immigration system, one which will predominantly benefit Asian Americans. Democrats are fighting tooth and nail against such a merit-based system.


Republicans, led by Trump, are also the ones who put in place a complete and total visa ban, which predominantly discriminated against Asian Americans. I mean sure you can support the GOP just say you don't care if or when any racist policies come forth and are announced straight from the microphones at the White House and affect people who look like you.


I'm smart enough to know that the visa ban was done to limit international travel due to COVID. It was not aimed at Asians, Asians just felt a significant impact. The same could be said of professional sports game ban against African Americans, although it would be foolish to claim that such a ban was racist against AAs. The only real actual racist policy I know of are from Democrats who support affirmative action to discriminate against Asians based on the color of our skin. They defend this practice all the way to the supreme court.

Look, if you are so concerned about the welfare of Asian immigrants, join the Republicans in calling for merit-based immigration system, which will predominantly benefit south and east Asians.

Let's play this out. Let's say that the US implements a merit based system, which leads to a large up tick in Asian immigrants. Do you think she and the rest of the Rs would be happy about that? Sersiously? Asian Americans vote D. You think white Rs would want more Dems? They may talk about a "merit" system, but once that cat is out of the bag, they will try to find ways to limit Asian influence.

I'll say it again.. Rs are using Asian Americans as a convenience. They treat Asian Americans as a patsy, like the model minority myth.


Well, lets arrive at our decision based on facts. Republican party tried to get Affirmative Action banned, Democrats are protecting it in court. Republicans want a merit-based immigration system, which we all know will benefit Asians. Democrats wants to hold on to the lottery system in the name of diversity. I'd say that's pretty clear indication which party is better for Asians.

Nobody uses me unless I let them. I'm my own person with my own ideas. You can keep telling me that Republicans are anti-Asian but the evidence says otherwise. You have nothing to offer but fear.

You are letting Rs use you as a convenience simply by supporting Rs.

Why do you think 70% of uneducated white males are Rs?
Why do you think the more educated you are, the more you tend to vote Dem, which is also why this racist prof. wants to limit Asian immigration.
Why do the majority of Asian Americans vote Dem? CA voted to do away with affirmative action with Prop 209. Affirmative action in university admissions is not legal. Race can be one factor, but quotas and affirmative action are not legal. And yet, Asian Americans still vote Dem. Why is that?


DP.
I have to say...... your elitism is revolting.

People who chose not to go to college or simply could not afford it are NOT "uneducated."
And, people who attend college are NOT always "more educated."
Some of the truly dumbest people I know have PhD's.

Posts like this are exactly why the pp is rejecting the Democrats.
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Seeing as most Jews vote Democrat too, Jewish immigration should be banned too, and perhaps Amy Wax's ancestors should not have been allowed to immigrate either.
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this Jeff.

I'm an Asian American who is also a Republican. I don't believe her views represent the mainstream in the Republican party. The existence of people like her doesn't change my preference for political positions aligned with classical liberalism, which currently is the Republican party. There are terrible people who call themselves Republicans and I am not going to abandon my values just because there are some bad people who hold abhorrent views also have these same values.


Can I just say...a party that doesn't cancel a President or any leadership that repeatedly stokes hate by referring to a 'K*ng Flu virus' or 'China virus' is one that represents the mainstream in the Republican party. You can't have it both ways, you either see this anti-Asian rhetoric solely in GOP leadership or you don't. Vote for them or don't. But don't complain when more anti-asian policies and rhetoric are espoused.




It's not having it both ways for me to support the parts of Republican party platform I agree with even though there are terrible people in the party. I'll note that Republican is the party that is trying to put in place a merit-based immigration system, one which will predominantly benefit Asian Americans. Democrats are fighting tooth and nail against such a merit-based system.


Republicans, led by Trump, are also the ones who put in place a complete and total visa ban, which predominantly discriminated against Asian Americans. I mean sure you can support the GOP just say you don't care if or when any racist policies come forth and are announced straight from the microphones at the White House and affect people who look like you.


I'm smart enough to know that the visa ban was done to limit international travel due to COVID. It was not aimed at Asians, Asians just felt a significant impact. The same could be said of professional sports game ban against African Americans, although it would be foolish to claim that such a ban was racist against AAs. The only real actual racist policy I know of are from Democrats who support affirmative action to discriminate against Asians based on the color of our skin. They defend this practice all the way to the supreme court.

Look, if you are so concerned about the welfare of Asian immigrants, join the Republicans in calling for merit-based immigration system, which will predominantly benefit south and east Asians.

Let's play this out. Let's say that the US implements a merit based system, which leads to a large up tick in Asian immigrants. Do you think she and the rest of the Rs would be happy about that? Sersiously? Asian Americans vote D. You think white Rs would want more Dems? They may talk about a "merit" system, but once that cat is out of the bag, they will try to find ways to limit Asian influence.

I'll say it again.. Rs are using Asian Americans as a convenience. They treat Asian Americans as a patsy, like the model minority myth.


Well, lets arrive at our decision based on facts. Republican party tried to get Affirmative Action banned, Democrats are protecting it in court. Republicans want a merit-based immigration system, which we all know will benefit Asians. Democrats wants to hold on to the lottery system in the name of diversity. I'd say that's pretty clear indication which party is better for Asians.

Nobody uses me unless I let them. I'm my own person with my own ideas. You can keep telling me that Republicans are anti-Asian but the evidence says otherwise. You have nothing to offer but fear.

You are letting Rs use you as a convenience simply by supporting Rs.

Why do you think 70% of uneducated white males are Rs?
Why do you think the more educated you are, the more you tend to vote Dem, which is also why this racist prof. wants to limit Asian immigration.
Why do the majority of Asian Americans vote Dem? CA voted to do away with affirmative action with Prop 209. Affirmative action in university admissions is not legal. Race can be one factor, but quotas and affirmative action are not legal. And yet, Asian Americans still vote Dem. Why is that?


DP.
I have to say...... your elitism is revolting.

People who chose not to go to college or simply could not afford it are NOT "uneducated."
And, people who attend college are NOT always "more educated."
Some of the truly dumbest people I know have PhD's.

Posts like this are exactly why the pp is rejecting the Democrats.

I've nothing against uneducated people. My parents and siblings are uneducated. But the fact remains, that 70% of uneducated white males vote R. Why is that?

As I stated, I used to be a R. Asian Americans used to vote R. No longer. Why is that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Seeing as most Jews vote Democrat too, Jewish immigration should be banned too, and perhaps Amy Wax's ancestors should not have been allowed to immigrate either.

I stated exactly this up thread. Clearly, she's against Asians. She's a racist and fits in with the rest of the majority of Rs today.
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this Jeff.

I'm an Asian American who is also a Republican. I don't believe her views represent the mainstream in the Republican party. The existence of people like her doesn't change my preference for political positions aligned with classical liberalism, which currently is the Republican party. There are terrible people who call themselves Republicans and I am not going to abandon my values just because there are some bad people who hold abhorrent views also have these same values.


Can I just say...a party that doesn't cancel a President or any leadership that repeatedly stokes hate by referring to a 'K*ng Flu virus' or 'China virus' is one that represents the mainstream in the Republican party. You can't have it both ways, you either see this anti-Asian rhetoric solely in GOP leadership or you don't. Vote for them or don't. But don't complain when more anti-asian policies and rhetoric are espoused.




It's not having it both ways for me to support the parts of Republican party platform I agree with even though there are terrible people in the party. I'll note that Republican is the party that is trying to put in place a merit-based immigration system, one which will predominantly benefit Asian Americans. Democrats are fighting tooth and nail against such a merit-based system.

Most Asian Americans who came here prior to 2000 were not highly educated, my family included. If Trump had been in office when my Asian immigrant family tried to come to the US, we would not have been able to immigrate here. You can say, "That was then, this is now", but that would be a "shut the door behind me" attitude. Also, a lot of Asian Americans came here via family connections, mine included.

I'm a PP who stated that I used to be a R. As a PP stated.. "that ship has sailed". The R party of today is no longer the party of Reagan. Even Bush can't stand Trump. During Trump's tenure, many high profiled Rs left the party. There's a reason for that.

Do you really think that white Rs will be so happy to have educated Asian Americans take over the corporate world, elite institutions, politics? No. We're just a convenience for them. The Model Minority myth was created by white people in power against the poorer African American group.

Why do you suppose the vast majority of Asian Americans are no longer Rs? Back in the 80s, the majority of Asian Americans were Rs, but slowly that's shifted.

https://theconversation.com/asian-americans-political-preferences-have-flipped-from-red-to-blue-145577

Why do you suppose this racist person wrote what she did? She didn't call out Latinos. She called out Asians.


It's rather irrational for you to make a claim with insufficient evidence. Research shows that Asian immigrants have always trended to be higher educated than US Born persons, even prior to 2000s:

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/09/14/education-levels-of-u-s-immigrants-are-on-the-rise/

I also don't think it's fair to judge what people would have done outside of the era they live in. People are the product of their environments. Would AOC be so fond of socialism during the cold war era? We don't know. If you were a Republican and are no longer, then you were never a Republican to begin with. This is especially born out by comments such as this is no longer Reagan's party or Bush's party. Republicanism is an idea, it's not built around idealized personalities like JFK or Obama. Yes, there are a lot of people who idolized/idolizes Reagan, but those people are misguided if they think one person or even a small group of people is representative of Republicans.

I'm part of the party. There are those who are trying to lead it astray, but it's up to me to be steadfast in holding onto ideals that I believe in, and not let those people drive me away from the convictions that I live by.


+100
Well said.
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