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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Thanks for sharing this Jeff.

I'm an Asian American who is also a Republican. I don't believe her views represent the mainstream in the Republican party. The existence of people like her doesn't change my preference for political positions aligned with classical liberalism, which currently is the Republican party. There are terrible people who call themselves Republicans and I am not going to abandon my values just because there are some bad people who hold abhorrent views also have these same values. [/quote]

Can I just say...a party that doesn't cancel a President or any leadership that repeatedly stokes hate by referring to a 'K*ng Flu virus' or 'China virus' is one that represents the mainstream in the Republican party. You can't have it both ways, you either see this anti-Asian rhetoric solely in GOP leadership or you don't. Vote for them or don't. But don't complain when more anti-asian policies and rhetoric are espoused.
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It's not having it both ways for me to support the parts of Republican party platform I agree with even though there are terrible people in the party. I'll note that Republican is the party that is trying to put in place a merit-based immigration system, one which will predominantly benefit Asian Americans. Democrats are fighting tooth and nail against such a merit-based system. [/quote]

Republicans, led by Trump, are also the ones who put in place a complete and total visa ban, which predominantly discriminated against Asian Americans. I mean sure you can support the GOP just say you don't care if or when any racist policies come forth and are announced straight from the microphones at the White House and affect people who look like you.[/quote]

I'm smart enough to know that the visa ban was done to limit international travel due to COVID. It was not aimed at Asians, Asians just felt a significant impact. The same could be said of professional sports game ban against African Americans, although it would be foolish to claim that such a ban was racist against AAs. The only real actual racist policy I know of are from Democrats who support affirmative action to discriminate against Asians based on the color of our skin. They defend this practice all the way to the supreme court.

Look, if you are so concerned about the welfare of Asian immigrants, join the Republicans in calling for merit-based immigration system, which will predominantly benefit south and east Asians. [/quote]
Let's play this out. Let's say that the US implements a merit based system, which leads to a large up tick in Asian immigrants. [b]Do you think she and the rest of the Rs would be happy about that?  Sersiously? [/b]  Asian Americans vote D.  You think white Rs would want more Dems?   They may talk about a "merit" system, but once that cat is out of the bag, they will try to find ways to limit Asian influence.

I'll say it again.. Rs are using Asian Americans as a convenience.  They treat Asian Americans as a patsy, like the model  minority myth.[/quote]

Well, lets arrive at our decision based on facts. Republican party tried to get Affirmative Action banned, Democrats are protecting it in court. Republicans want a merit-based immigration system, which we all know will benefit Asians. Democrats wants to hold on to the lottery system in the name of diversity. I'd say that's pretty clear indication which party is better for Asians.

Nobody uses me unless I let them. I'm my own person with my own ideas. You can keep telling me that Republicans are anti-Asian but the evidence says otherwise. You have nothing to offer but fear. 
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You are letting Rs use you as a convenience simply by supporting Rs.

Why do you think 70% of uneducated white males are Rs?   
Why do you think the more educated you are, the more you tend to vote Dem, which is also why this racist prof. wants to limit Asian immigration.   
Why do the majority of Asian Americans vote Dem?   CA voted to do away with affirmative action with Prop 209.  Affirmative action in university admissions is not legal. Race can be one factor, but quotas and affirmative action are not legal. And yet, Asian Americans still vote Dem. Why is that?[/quote]

People without a college degree are not the same as uneducated. It's elitist for you to believe otherwise. People become educated in a variety of ways, even modern elite institutions realize this. Yet there is this pervasive condescending attitude from the left that a piece of credential is the arbiter of who is educated.  I will also point out that people with a college degree are in the minority, and that's including associate degrees which I suspect most Democrats wouldn't accept as a qualification for being "educated". Only about a third of the country has a Bachelors's degree, and the current ratio of female to male college enrollment is about 3:2. Given that women are predisposed to being liberal in their ideas, tend to get degrees in the arts which reinforce those left-leaning tendencies, it's simply a natural fact that the majority of those with a Bachelors's degree are going to be Democrats. But lest you think that Democrats somehow enjoy exclusivity among the educated, consider the fact that Pilots, Dentists, Surgeons are all professions that lean Republican. Are these people uneducated in your mind?

[b]The reason why most Asians vote Democrat is that most Asians don't get involved in American politics. Most of us sit on the sidelines and observe. We are a people who don't complain much and usually take our challenges and roll with it rather than speak up.[/b] Due to this lack of engagement, most of us believe the claim by Democrats that Republicans are racists. Just as a normal person doesn't go around town shouting to everyone "I'm not a racist!", Republicans don't go around shouting that either. So the finger stabbing by the Democrats sticks. However, some Asians are waking up to the BS, and I see this in all Asian communities. Indians want a merit-based immigration system to clear the huge backlog they are facing. Chinese parents are angry about the Affirmative Action programs that discriminate against their kids, etc. I'm not saying that Asians are going to start voting Republican in the next election cycle, but every tide starts with a small ripple. I hope for my fellow Asian Americans to become more aware of their adoptive country, to be more engaged in the direction of our nation's politics because it's the only way that we can ensure that the efforts we've made to provide our children with a bright future is not wasted away. [/quote]m

I’m confused. I thought Asians where American. So, why is it “American politics” as opposed to national politics? Many Asians have said that the foreigner trope has often been used for racist depictions, but your argument is relying on that premise in some way. While I think Wax has gone about it in a ham fisted way, and don’t always agree with her conclusion, all I took away from her article is that there are fundamental/underlying differences Asians exhibit. And based off your comments, that seems to be true. I think the real issue, is whether it is ultimately of any consequence or if thats a dog whistle. I think its a dog whistle. [/quote]

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