ICE announcement

[Anonymous]

If you are a foreign based student at a US university and the school is going full, online, then the students must leave the US and do the courses elsewhere.

This is incredibly sad for a lot of students who did all the right things and may not have the resources or ability in their home country, to take online courses - no computer or internet or govt restrictions on G-Suite etc.

And for the US schools, it is an incredible financial burden.

[Anonymous]

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/sevp-modifies-temporary-exemptions-nonimmigrant-students-taking-online-courses-during

[Anonymous]

If you are a foreign based student at a US university and the school is going full, online, then the students must leave the US and do the courses elsewhere.

This is incredibly sad for a lot of students who did all the right things and may not have the resources or ability in their home country, to take online courses - no computer or internet or govt restrictions on G-Suite etc.

And for the US schools, it is an incredible financial burden.

Ugh. Awful.

[Anonymous]

Just another way that ICE/Trump/Stephen Miller are using the pandemic to live out their anti immigrant wet dreams.

[Anonymous]

The ICE order stipulates that all foreign and immigrant students can transfer to an in-person institution or go home. So Harvard has already announced all online classes. You either need to transfer to Boston University (for ex) or leave the country.

[Anonymous]

Nov 3. Please vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you are a foreign based student at a US university and the school is going full, online, then the students must leave the US and do the courses elsewhere.

This is incredibly sad for a lot of students who did all the right things and may not have the resources or ability in their home country, to take online courses - no computer or internet or govt restrictions on G-Suite etc.

And for the US schools, it is an incredible financial burden.

How could they have no computer or internet if they have the money to come to the US to study?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are a foreign based student at a US university and the school is going full, online, then the students must leave the US and do the courses elsewhere.

This is incredibly sad for a lot of students who did all the right things and may not have the resources or ability in their home country, to take online courses - no computer or internet or govt restrictions on G-Suite etc.

And for the US schools, it is an incredible financial burden.

How could they have no computer or internet if they have the money to come to the US to study?

Some schools meet full need for internationals. Or they got full ride merit scholarships.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are a foreign based student at a US university and the school is going full, online, then the students must leave the US and do the courses elsewhere.

This is incredibly sad for a lot of students who did all the right things and may not have the resources or ability in their home country, to take online courses - no computer or internet or govt restrictions on G-Suite etc.

And for the US schools, it is an incredible financial burden.

How could they have no computer or internet if they have the money to come to the US to study?

Because they may be returning to a country with bad internet connections or China where you have no access to certain programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are a foreign based student at a US university and the school is going full, online, then the students must leave the US and do the courses elsewhere.

This is incredibly sad for a lot of students who did all the right things and may not have the resources or ability in their home country, to take online courses - no computer or internet or govt restrictions on G-Suite etc.

And for the US schools, it is an incredible financial burden.

How could they have no computer or internet if they have the money to come to the US to study?

Some schools meet full need for internationals. Or they got full ride merit scholarships.

and many of these scholarships come with a stipend to travel home to visit family and extra money so if you friends go out you can afford to go with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are a foreign based student at a US university and the school is going full, online, then the students must leave the US and do the courses elsewhere.

This is incredibly sad for a lot of students who did all the right things and may not have the resources or ability in their home country, to take online courses - no computer or internet or govt restrictions on G-Suite etc.

And for the US schools, it is an incredible financial burden.

How could they have no computer or internet if they have the money to come to the US to study?

There are places where Internet is politically or geographically unavailable / unreliable, regardless of your money. Sometimes it is restricted certain hours, which is a problem if your class meets on Eastern Standard Time. Or they may have gotten here via scholarship, community fundraising, or relative's bequest.

My SIL works at a SLAC and some of her foreign students are not safe to go home after becoming "westernized" or because they are gay. They would not have family support even if the family is rich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are a foreign based student at a US university and the school is going full, online, then the students must leave the US and do the courses elsewhere.

This is incredibly sad for a lot of students who did all the right things and may not have the resources or ability in their home country, to take online courses - no computer or internet or govt restrictions on G-Suite etc.

And for the US schools, it is an incredible financial burden.

How could they have no computer or internet if they have the money to come to the US to study?

There are places where Internet is politically or geographically unavailable / unreliable, regardless of your money. Sometimes it is restricted certain hours, which is a problem if your class meets on Eastern Standard Time. Or they may have gotten here via scholarship, community fundraising, or relative's bequest.

My SIL works at a SLAC and some of her foreign students are not safe to go home after becoming "westernized" or because they are gay. They would not have family support even if the family is rich.

Re: the bold, this is my fear for some of my DC's SLAC classmates. They stayed on campus throughout the spring and summer, some because their home countries were rife with coronavirus and they were safer at this college both from the virus and from social structures and mores that would cause them to basically live underground at home -- at best. At worst they could be rejected by families or physically abused.

Horrible, horrible call by ICE. Many of these students could live in their colleges' dorms even if campus was officially closed and all learning was distance learning. That is how it worked over the spring semester and summer too. ICE didn't throw them out of the country then. But now, someone in the administration has gotten hold of the fact that there were, gasp!, foreign students in America doing online courses. God help those kids.

[Anonymous]

My dd was waitlisted this year at a decent (ranked in 25-40 range) but not top lac that has a lot of international students. She received an email thurs. saying that the waitlist was officially closed. I wonder if it will reopen. She’s deposited elsewhere but it’s sad for the international kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are a foreign based student at a US university and the school is going full, online, then the students must leave the US and do the courses elsewhere.

This is incredibly sad for a lot of students who did all the right things and may not have the resources or ability in their home country, to take online courses - no computer or internet or govt restrictions on G-Suite etc.

And for the US schools, it is an incredible financial burden.

How could they have no computer or internet if they have the money to come to the US to study?

There are places where Internet is politically or geographically unavailable / unreliable, regardless of your money. Sometimes it is restricted certain hours, which is a problem if your class meets on Eastern Standard Time. Or they may have gotten here via scholarship, community fundraising, or relative's bequest.

My SIL works at a SLAC and some of her foreign students are not safe to go home after becoming "westernized" or because they are gay. They would not have family support even if the family is rich.

and due to time difference lectures would be in the middle of the night and working on group projects is compromised.

[Anonymous]

What a completely crappy thing to do to these students. I guess nothing should surprise me with the current administration. Many colleges don't even know what they are doing yet (my own kid's included - we don't expect to learn anything about online vs. in-person for a few more weeks). I'm not sure how these young people are supposed to just magically transfer a few weeks before fall classes.

I'm sure that colleges and universities were also counting on tuition and room & board money from international students who are now going to have to withdraw. I wish Stephen Miller would crawl back into the hole that he slithered out of.