To people frustrated with Biden who say they won’t vote in 2024

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Anonymous wrote:Democratic landslide in 2024. All these domestic issues will be resolved by early next year, some already have been resolved but the stale talking points persist. Blinken is going to negotiate a better diplomatic Middle East peace agreement than any of the previous ones. Republicans will continue to be both delusional and incompetent.

Economy will be roaring. Middle East will be forgotten. And the Republicans will still be pushing a national abortion ban.

Totally agree. Democratic landslide.

I hope you're right about a roaring economy and leave in the middle east. It seems unlikely, though, because we are sending money to both Palestine and Israel. Normally, if you fund both sides, it prolongs a war.

If people think voting for the GOP - likely Trump or not voting at all and by default enabling Trump to win - we won’t be going to get peace. Not in the Middle East, not in the United States, not anywhere. It we will be in a full-on fascistic state where people will be barred from basic civil rights because they are Muslim or gay or a woman (not that these aren’t in jeopardy already).

All these people who hate Israel, who deny it the right to protect itself from offensives from neighbors and terrorists, and want to “show Biden” for having the basic morality to support Israelis in the wake of the heinous attack of October 7 when so many were completely SILENT.

You’re biting your nose to spite your face.

Hello, Biden is in the White House and we are engaged in TWO wars. TWO. Biden isn't saving us from anything and he's certainly not saving Palestinian children from being killed by Israel and from Israelis getting massacred by Hamas.

What exactly is Biden supposed to do other than what he and his administration are doing right now?

And just let me point up the massive hypocrisy of the right, which wants the US completely out of the Ukraine war but now wants us to do -- what? boots on the ground? -- in Israel/Gaza. Which is it? America First or Team America World Police?

Biden seriously needs to ask Trump for help getting the world back under control. Trump is the only person in DC that knows how to be smart.

You are delusional. Seek help urgently.

And you are willing to sacrifice millions of human lives in order to achieve your political goal.

Sometimes the only response to conservative gibberish is: “wut.”

NP. Not sure that poster was conservative. And I am certain that wasn’t gibberish.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to guilt people into voting for Biden. If he was a great candidate there's be no debate.

Stop trying to pretend you have a choice. If Trump becomes the Republican candidate there is no debate.

Again. That’s in a year. Spend this year making Biden a great candidate.

He already is.

90% of that list is pork. The rest is fluff.

Eyeroll. Nothing is ever enough.

Biden saved the economy from cratering post-Covid and reengaged with the world after four years of a crazy-wanna-be-autocrat.

it's not pork or fluff, it's governing. You probably aren't familiar with that. Hint: It doesn't involve inciting riots or calling Nazis "good people."

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I really disappointed in so many of you who probably consider yourselves smart and savvy people. Instead of evaluating Biden’s stable leadership, you’re blindly regurgitating conservative talking points.

Good. The more disappointed democrats, the better chance that something will change. Biden is not a stable leadership. US is downsliding on all fronts. The world is on fire. I guess it is stable if this is was a goal.

Who do you think has the gravitas to tell Biden to drop out....and for who? Harris? Some governor that no one knows?

It doesn't happen like that, no matter how much you want.

It will be Trump versus Biden.

the GOP and Trump are telling you what life in the US will be like if they have control.

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Anonymous wrote:Before someone says “but Trump will be worse!” Please reflect on the fact that the largest employer, the Federal Government, began paid family leave under President Trump. Under President Biden, workplace flexibilities are being rolled backward. President Biden has not secured paid family leave for the rest of the country as was his campaign promise.

I won’t vote for Trump but the knee jerk “Fear Trump Vote Biden!” has facts-based issues in some important demographics.

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A lot of COVID conscious people saw a slight edge in Trump’s response as well. Operation Warp Speed and a whole slew of the actually effective counter measures happened under Trump. But the Biden administration really just wanted to be all ‘Mission Accomplished’ and started pretending we didn’t have a problem. This is why many more died under Biden than under Trump: we had more tools, but even less will to use them.

A lot of the posters trying to browbeat us into voting for Biden could see Biden (or HRC, BHO, WJC, KH, PB, etc) shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they’d still say, “Look, that’s stable, effective leadership!”

Trump management was undeniably vastly superior. Normal people tend to like World Peace, low inflation, a stable border, less crime, a stable banking system, higher ACT scores, a record stock market that stays ahead of inflation and rapidly growing economy, healthier cities, low levels of antisemitism, less homelessness, higher life expectancies…

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You must have been in a coma during the Trump administration.

That person is obviously confused but you can read in lots of the comments on this how the corporate conservative media has successfully promoted Trump by diminishing Biden at every turn. And the people have no idea they’ve been propagandized.

Diminishing Biden? Hell, he does that himself. He was the worst senator and you boobs promoted him to President. JFC.

We “boobs”? You mean voters?

It's similar to deplorables.

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Anonymous wrote:Before someone says “but Trump will be worse!” Please reflect on the fact that the largest employer, the Federal Government, began paid family leave under President Trump. Under President Biden, workplace flexibilities are being rolled backward. President Biden has not secured paid family leave for the rest of the country as was his campaign promise.

I won’t vote for Trump but the knee jerk “Fear Trump Vote Biden!” has facts-based issues in some important demographics.

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A lot of COVID conscious people saw a slight edge in Trump’s response as well. Operation Warp Speed and a whole slew of the actually effective counter measures happened under Trump. But the Biden administration really just wanted to be all ‘Mission Accomplished’ and started pretending we didn’t have a problem. This is why many more died under Biden than under Trump: we had more tools, but even less will to use them.

A lot of the posters trying to browbeat us into voting for Biden could see Biden (or HRC, BHO, WJC, KH, PB, etc) shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they’d still say, “Look, that’s stable, effective leadership!”

Trump management was undeniably vastly superior. Normal people tend to like World Peace, low inflation, a stable border, less crime, a stable banking system, higher ACT scores, a record stock market that stays ahead of inflation and rapidly growing economy, healthier cities, low levels of antisemitism, less homelessness, higher life expectancies…

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You must have been in a coma during the Trump administration.

That person is obviously confused but you can read in lots of the comments on this how the corporate conservative media has successfully promoted Trump by diminishing Biden at every turn. And the people have no idea they’ve been propagandized.

Diminishing Biden? Hell, he does that himself. He was the worst senator and you boobs promoted him to President. JFC.

JFC? I mean, Trump is a delusional autocrat. Biden is old, but he is neither delusional nor an autocrat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Read this and understand what a Trump second term means for the rule of law and normalcy in our country

Combine that with Zeints legislation proposal to expel all Palestinians from the US and the threat to ban abortions nationally and it is hard for me to understand the idea that people think both sides are the same.

Sorry, absolute and total perfection is required of Democrats. Meanwhile the squishy middle will pretend not to see the fascism in the GOP.

FTR, I don’t think all is lost. I think that most of us on here right now in 2023 are political and thus most of the pps on here have an agenda. The agenda of many Republicans is to pose as disaffected Democrats.

In reality I don’t think Israel is going to move the needle one way or the other as so many Republican (“Life long Democrats”) pps want it to. The GOP is going to shut down the government, the GOP is being open about their plans to demolish the United States as we know it (Project 2025) and to abolish legal abortion and birth control across the country.

It’s not even the lesser of two evils. It’s progress, human rights, fixing problems or fascism, corruption, violence and bigotry.

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Every thread in politics ends with "if you're not for or with us, then you must support the Evil Empire." Stop gaslighting people - people who are frustrated with Biden are not likely to vote for trump - they will either vote for a third-party candidate or not vote at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Every thread in politics ends with "if you're not for or with us, then you must support the Evil Empire." Stop gaslighting people - people who are frustrated with Biden are not likely to vote for trump - they will either vote for a third-party candidate or not vote at all.

Amen

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Anonymous wrote:Every thread in politics ends with "if you're not for or with us, then you must support the Evil Empire." Stop gaslighting people - people who are frustrated with Biden are not likely to vote for trump - they will either vote for a third-party candidate or not vote at all.

Which puts Trump in the White House

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Anonymous wrote:Every thread in politics ends with "if you're not for or with us, then you must support the Evil Empire." Stop gaslighting people - people who are frustrated with Biden are not likely to vote for trump - they will either vote for a third-party candidate or not vote at all.

Which puts Trump in the White House

And?

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Anonymous wrote:Every thread in politics ends with "if you're not for or with us, then you must support the Evil Empire." Stop gaslighting people - people who are frustrated with Biden are not likely to vote for trump - they will either vote for a third-party candidate or not vote at all.

Which puts Trump in the White House

And?

And then he starts to execute people he thinks have wronged him. He has literally said this is what he thinks should happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Before someone says “but Trump will be worse!” Please reflect on the fact that the largest employer, the Federal Government, began paid family leave under President Trump. Under President Biden, workplace flexibilities are being rolled backward. President Biden has not secured paid family leave for the rest of the country as was his campaign promise.

I won’t vote for Trump but the knee jerk “Fear Trump Vote Biden!” has facts-based issues in some important demographics.

+1

A lot of COVID conscious people saw a slight edge in Trump’s response as well. Operation Warp Speed and a whole slew of the actually effective counter measures happened under Trump. But the Biden administration really just wanted to be all ‘Mission Accomplished’ and started pretending we didn’t have a problem. This is why many more died under Biden than under Trump: we had more tools, but even less will to use them.

A lot of the posters trying to browbeat us into voting for Biden could see Biden (or HRC, BHO, WJC, KH, PB, etc) shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they’d still say, “Look, that’s stable, effective leadership!”

Trump management was undeniably vastly superior. Normal people tend to like World Peace, low inflation, a stable border, less crime, a stable banking system, higher ACT scores, a record stock market that stays ahead of inflation and rapidly growing economy, healthier cities, low levels of antisemitism, less homelessness, higher life expectancies…

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You must have been in a coma during the Trump administration.

That person is obviously confused but you can read in lots of the comments on this how the corporate conservative media has successfully promoted Trump by diminishing Biden at every turn. And the people have no idea they’ve been propagandized.

Diminishing Biden? Hell, he does that himself. He was the worst senator and you boobs promoted him to President. JFC.

JFC? I mean, Trump is a delusional autocrat. Biden is old, but he is neither delusional nor an autocrat.

Oh, Biden is an autocrat alright. Threatening people with losing their jobs if they don't vax. Giving a fire and brimstone speech with clenched fists and red lighting behind him chanting MAGA evil over and over.

Using Executive Orders again and again to circumvent congress. Weaponizing the DOJ against political enemies. Who do you think you're kidding?

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Anonymous wrote:Before someone says “but Trump will be worse!” Please reflect on the fact that the largest employer, the Federal Government, began paid family leave under President Trump. Under President Biden, workplace flexibilities are being rolled backward. President Biden has not secured paid family leave for the rest of the country as was his campaign promise.

I won’t vote for Trump but the knee jerk “Fear Trump Vote Biden!” has facts-based issues in some important demographics.

+1

A lot of COVID conscious people saw a slight edge in Trump’s response as well. Operation Warp Speed and a whole slew of the actually effective counter measures happened under Trump. But the Biden administration really just wanted to be all ‘Mission Accomplished’ and started pretending we didn’t have a problem. This is why many more died under Biden than under Trump: we had more tools, but even less will to use them.

A lot of the posters trying to browbeat us into voting for Biden could see Biden (or HRC, BHO, WJC, KH, PB, etc) shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they’d still say, “Look, that’s stable, effective leadership!”

Trump management was undeniably vastly superior. Normal people tend to like World Peace, low inflation, a stable border, less crime, a stable banking system, higher ACT scores, a record stock market that stays ahead of inflation and rapidly growing economy, healthier cities, low levels of antisemitism, less homelessness, higher life expectancies…

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You must have been in a coma during the Trump administration.

That person is obviously confused but you can read in lots of the comments on this how the corporate conservative media has successfully promoted Trump by diminishing Biden at every turn. And the people have no idea they’ve been propagandized.

Diminishing Biden? Hell, he does that himself. He was the worst senator and you boobs promoted him to President. JFC.

JFC? I mean, Trump is a delusional autocrat. Biden is old, but he is neither delusional nor an autocrat.

Oh, Biden is an autocrat alright. Threatening people with losing their jobs if they don't vax. Giving a fire and brimstone speech with clenched fists and red lighting behind him chanting MAGA evil over and over.

Using Executive Orders again and again to circumvent congress. Weaponizing the DOJ against political enemies. Who do you think you're kidding?

The bolded never happened unless you work for the Federal government, in which case, he is the boss.

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Anonymous wrote:Before someone says “but Trump will be worse!” Please reflect on the fact that the largest employer, the Federal Government, began paid family leave under President Trump. Under President Biden, workplace flexibilities are being rolled backward. President Biden has not secured paid family leave for the rest of the country as was his campaign promise.

I won’t vote for Trump but the knee jerk “Fear Trump Vote Biden!” has facts-based issues in some important demographics.

+1

A lot of COVID conscious people saw a slight edge in Trump’s response as well. Operation Warp Speed and a whole slew of the actually effective counter measures happened under Trump. But the Biden administration really just wanted to be all ‘Mission Accomplished’ and started pretending we didn’t have a problem. This is why many more died under Biden than under Trump: we had more tools, but even less will to use them.

A lot of the posters trying to browbeat us into voting for Biden could see Biden (or HRC, BHO, WJC, KH, PB, etc) shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they’d still say, “Look, that’s stable, effective leadership!”

Trump management was undeniably vastly superior. Normal people tend to like World Peace, low inflation, a stable border, less crime, a stable banking system, higher ACT scores, a record stock market that stays ahead of inflation and rapidly growing economy, healthier cities, low levels of antisemitism, less homelessness, higher life expectancies…

.

You must have been in a coma during the Trump administration.

That person is obviously confused but you can read in lots of the comments on this how the corporate conservative media has successfully promoted Trump by diminishing Biden at every turn. And the people have no idea they’ve been propagandized.

Diminishing Biden? Hell, he does that himself. He was the worst senator and you boobs promoted him to President. JFC.

JFC? I mean, Trump is a delusional autocrat. Biden is old, but he is neither delusional nor an autocrat.

Oh, Biden is an autocrat alright. Threatening people with losing their jobs if they don't vax. Giving a fire and brimstone speech with clenched fists and red lighting behind him chanting MAGA evil over and over.

Using Executive Orders again and again to circumvent congress. Weaponizing the DOJ against political enemies. Who do you think you're kidding?

Most of Biden's EO's were simply undoing the ones Trump signed. But continue with your fake outrage and gaslighting.

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Anonymous wrote:Before someone says “but Trump will be worse!” Please reflect on the fact that the largest employer, the Federal Government, began paid family leave under President Trump. Under President Biden, workplace flexibilities are being rolled backward. President Biden has not secured paid family leave for the rest of the country as was his campaign promise.

I won’t vote for Trump but the knee jerk “Fear Trump Vote Biden!” has facts-based issues in some important demographics.

+1

A lot of COVID conscious people saw a slight edge in Trump’s response as well. Operation Warp Speed and a whole slew of the actually effective counter measures happened under Trump. But the Biden administration really just wanted to be all ‘Mission Accomplished’ and started pretending we didn’t have a problem. This is why many more died under Biden than under Trump: we had more tools, but even less will to use them.

A lot of the posters trying to browbeat us into voting for Biden could see Biden (or HRC, BHO, WJC, KH, PB, etc) shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they’d still say, “Look, that’s stable, effective leadership!”

Trump management was undeniably vastly superior. Normal people tend to like World Peace, low inflation, a stable border, less crime, a stable banking system, higher ACT scores, a record stock market that stays ahead of inflation and rapidly growing economy, healthier cities, low levels of antisemitism, less homelessness, higher life expectancies…

.

You must have been in a coma during the Trump administration.

That person is obviously confused but you can read in lots of the comments on this how the corporate conservative media has successfully promoted Trump by diminishing Biden at every turn. And the people have no idea they’ve been propagandized.

Diminishing Biden? Hell, he does that himself. He was the worst senator and you boobs promoted him to President. JFC.

JFC? I mean, Trump is a delusional autocrat. Biden is old, but he is neither delusional nor an autocrat.

Oh, Biden is an autocrat alright. Threatening people with losing their jobs if they don't vax. Giving a fire and brimstone speech with clenched fists and red lighting behind him chanting MAGA evil over and over.

Using Executive Orders again and again to circumvent congress. Weaponizing the DOJ against political enemies. Who do you think you're kidding?

The bolded never happened unless you work for the Federal government, in which case, he is the boss.

Thanks for making my point about him being an autocrat.

Is the U.S. postal service part of the federal government also?

Are newspapers also part of the government or does the FBI get to steer them and order them to delete content with tax payer dollars because the administration (or also the "Disinformation Governance Board") doesn't like their views?

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Anonymous wrote:Before someone says “but Trump will be worse!” Please reflect on the fact that the largest employer, the Federal Government, began paid family leave under President Trump. Under President Biden, workplace flexibilities are being rolled backward. President Biden has not secured paid family leave for the rest of the country as was his campaign promise.

I won’t vote for Trump but the knee jerk “Fear Trump Vote Biden!” has facts-based issues in some important demographics.

+1

A lot of COVID conscious people saw a slight edge in Trump’s response as well. Operation Warp Speed and a whole slew of the actually effective counter measures happened under Trump. But the Biden administration really just wanted to be all ‘Mission Accomplished’ and started pretending we didn’t have a problem. This is why many more died under Biden than under Trump: we had more tools, but even less will to use them.

A lot of the posters trying to browbeat us into voting for Biden could see Biden (or HRC, BHO, WJC, KH, PB, etc) shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they’d still say, “Look, that’s stable, effective leadership!”

Trump management was undeniably vastly superior. Normal people tend to like World Peace, low inflation, a stable border, less crime, a stable banking system, higher ACT scores, a record stock market that stays ahead of inflation and rapidly growing economy, healthier cities, low levels of antisemitism, less homelessness, higher life expectancies…

.

You must have been in a coma during the Trump administration.

That person is obviously confused but you can read in lots of the comments on this how the corporate conservative media has successfully promoted Trump by diminishing Biden at every turn. And the people have no idea they’ve been propagandized.

Diminishing Biden? Hell, he does that himself. He was the worst senator and you boobs promoted him to President. JFC.

JFC? I mean, Trump is a delusional autocrat. Biden is old, but he is neither delusional nor an autocrat.

Oh, Biden is an autocrat alright. Threatening people with losing their jobs if they don't vax. Giving a fire and brimstone speech with clenched fists and red lighting behind him chanting MAGA evil over and over.

Using Executive Orders again and again to circumvent congress. Weaponizing the DOJ against political enemies. Who do you think you're kidding?

Most of Biden's EO's were simply undoing the ones Trump signed. But continue with your fake outrage and gaslighting.

Most of Biden's EO's were simply to kill petroleum discovery and refining in favor of Silicon Valley's initiatives for electric vehicles (and to get more votes for the DNC).