To people frustrated with Biden who say they won’t vote in 2024

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Anonymous wrote:I’m one of those unlikely to vote if the choice is between Trump and Biden. We need another moderate choice.

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Biden can barely speak. Trump can speak but anlmost everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.


Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then. No complaints then when he screws your family over.


My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him.


Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody. It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.


If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate?


What is your point? Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better? That is utter nonsense.


The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate.


Holy clueless. Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it. You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.

You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.


But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...

You need help with math. A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.


You don’t understand the electoral college.


+1. Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.

Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from. Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters. It just hurts your cause.


Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win? Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends. Should be easy.

A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other. Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes. Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.


You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.

Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals. Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s? That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.



Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots

It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice.

If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.


It is too late to nominate anyone else. The ballot deadlines have passed in numerous states. Another half dozen have their deadlines in the next two weeks. Biden is it.


Well we should start practicing bowing to overlord Trump because Biden will not win. This is turning in to a RBG thing. Biden was so stupid with his unconditional support of Israel. That sh#tshow will be much much worst by next November.


So you think the GOP doesn't have unconditional support for Israel?

Do you think the GOP would have provided aid to the people of Gaza or negotiated a humanitarian pause?

Because that is fantasyland.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m one of those unlikely to vote if the choice is between Trump and Biden. We need another moderate choice.

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Biden can barely speak. Trump can speak but anlmost everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.


Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then. No complaints then when he screws your family over.


My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him.


Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody. It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.


If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate?


What is your point? Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better? That is utter nonsense.


The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate.


Holy clueless. Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it. You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.

You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.


But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...

You need help with math. A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.


You don’t understand the electoral college.


+1. Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.

Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from. Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters. It just hurts your cause.


Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win? Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends. Should be easy.

A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other. Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes. Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.


You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.

Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals. Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s? That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.



Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots

It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice.

If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.


It is too late to nominate anyone else. The ballot deadlines have passed in numerous states. Another half dozen have their deadlines in the next two weeks. Biden is it.


Well we should start practicing bowing to overlord Trump because Biden will not win. This is turning in to a RBG thing. Biden was so stupid with his unconditional support of Israel. That sh#tshow will be much much worst by next November.

Biden overtakes Trump in the latest poll with 11% of numpties saying they’ll vote for someone else, 5% of fresh hatched fools “undecided.” https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-trump-morning-consult-poll-2024-1847994

It’s Biden or fascism. Vote accordingly, and not according to Israel.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m one of those unlikely to vote if the choice is between Trump and Biden. We need another moderate choice.

+1
Biden can barely speak. Trump can speak but anlmost everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.


Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then. No complaints then when he screws your family over.


My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him.


Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody. It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.


If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate?


What is your point? Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better? That is utter nonsense.


The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate.


Holy clueless. Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it. You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.

You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.


But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...

You need help with math. A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.


You don’t understand the electoral college.


+1. Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.

Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from. Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters. It just hurts your cause.


Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win? Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends. Should be easy.

A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other. Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes. Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.


You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.

Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals. Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s? That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.



Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots

It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice.

If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.


It is too late to nominate anyone else. The ballot deadlines have passed in numerous states. Another half dozen have their deadlines in the next two weeks. Biden is it.


Well we should start practicing bowing to overlord Trump because Biden will not win. This is turning in to a RBG thing. Biden was so stupid with his unconditional support of Israel. That sh#tshow will be much much worst by next November.


So you think the GOP doesn't have unconditional support for Israel?

Do you think the GOP would have provided aid to the people of Gaza or negotiated a humanitarian pause?

Because that is fantasyland.


The Republicans would let Israel do whatever it wanted and that is exactly what Biden has done. The democrats are supposed to be better than that. Have you listened to Biden’s rhetoric about the Palestinians? I have and he has lost my vote and I am not alone. Oh and Biden has not negotiated a pause. Israel ran out of targets and bombs. You are sadly mistaken if you think Biden has any pull in Israel.

I do not understand people like yourself who put Israel before all else including genocide.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m one of those unlikely to vote if the choice is between Trump and Biden. We need another moderate choice.

+1
Biden can barely speak. Trump can speak but anlmost everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.


Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then. No complaints then when he screws your family over.


My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him.


Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody. It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.


If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate?


What is your point? Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better? That is utter nonsense.


The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate.


Holy clueless. Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it. You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.

You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.


But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...

You need help with math. A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.


You don’t understand the electoral college.


+1. Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.

Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from. Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters. It just hurts your cause.


Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win? Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends. Should be easy.

A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other. Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes. Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.


You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.

Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals. Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s? That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.



Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots

It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice.

If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.

You can keep saying that, but it’s no truer now that the first thirty times you wrote it.

One way the media obligingly helps out the GOP is by tearing down whoever the Democrat is. It doesn’t matter if it’s Biden, Clinton, Obama or literally anyone else, if they’re the nominee, they’re attacked by the media. Clinton had insanely high likability scores and trust etc. but when she became the nominee, the conservative corporate media ran with butteremails and spirit cooking and pizzagate.

And then we come to the triple facts that are massive waggling monsters for the GOP: 1) Trump is as old as Biden and a thousand times less healthy 2) Biden already beat Trump and that was when Trump was 91 indictments lighter and three years earlier in his dementia journey and 3) ROE IS GONE and the GOP is promising a national ban.

They have to push the third party line like you’re doing because they’re going to lose.

Don't speak of 81 year old Biden as if he is on the same level as a Clinton or Obama. That is ludicrous and everyone with at least half a brain knows it. Biden at 60?.... maybe, but don't be ridiculous.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m one of those unlikely to vote if the choice is between Trump and Biden. We need another moderate choice.

+1
Biden can barely speak. Trump can speak but anlmost everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.


Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then. No complaints then when he screws your family over.


My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him.


Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody. It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.


If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate?


What is your point? Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better? That is utter nonsense.


The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate.


Holy clueless. Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it. You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.

You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.


But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...

You need help with math. A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.


You don’t understand the electoral college.


+1. Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.

Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from. Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters. It just hurts your cause.


Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win? Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends. Should be easy.

A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other. Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes. Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.


You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.

Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals. Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s? That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.



Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots

It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice.

If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.


It is too late to nominate anyone else. The ballot deadlines have passed in numerous states. Another half dozen have their deadlines in the next two weeks. Biden is it.


Well we should start practicing bowing to overlord Trump because Biden will not win. This is turning in to a RBG thing. Biden was so stupid with his unconditional support of Israel. That sh#tshow will be much much worst by next November.


So you think the GOP doesn't have unconditional support for Israel?

Do you think the GOP would have provided aid to the people of Gaza or negotiated a humanitarian pause?

Because that is fantasyland.


The Republicans would let Israel do whatever it wanted and that is exactly what Biden has done. The democrats are supposed to be better than that. Have you listened to Biden’s rhetoric about the Palestinians? I have and he has lost my vote and I am not alone. Oh and Biden has not negotiated a pause. Israel ran out of targets and bombs. You are sadly mistaken if you think Biden has any pull in Israel.

I do not understand people like yourself who put Israel before all else including genocide.


Have you?

He separates Hamas from "Palestinians"
He has advocated for a two state solution
He has talked about respect domestically in terms of anti-semitism and Anti-Muslim rhetoric and action

What else do you want?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m one of those unlikely to vote if the choice is between Trump and Biden. We need another moderate choice.

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Biden can barely speak. Trump can speak but anlmost everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.


Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then. No complaints then when he screws your family over.


My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him.


Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody. It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.


If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate?


What is your point? Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better? That is utter nonsense.


The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate.


Holy clueless. Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it. You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.

You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.


But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...

You need help with math. A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.


You don’t understand the electoral college.


+1. Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.

Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from. Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters. It just hurts your cause.


Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win? Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends. Should be easy.

A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other. Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes. Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.


You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.

Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals. Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s? That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.



Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots

It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice.

If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.


It is too late to nominate anyone else. The ballot deadlines have passed in numerous states. Another half dozen have their deadlines in the next two weeks. Biden is it.


Well we should start practicing bowing to overlord Trump because Biden will not win. This is turning in to a RBG thing. Biden was so stupid with his unconditional support of Israel. That sh#tshow will be much much worst by next November.


So you think the GOP doesn't have unconditional support for Israel?

Do you think the GOP would have provided aid to the people of Gaza or negotiated a humanitarian pause?

Because that is fantasyland.


The Republicans would let Israel do whatever it wanted and that is exactly what Biden has done. The democrats are supposed to be better than that. Have you listened to Biden’s rhetoric about the Palestinians? I have and he has lost my vote and I am not alone. Oh and Biden has not negotiated a pause. Israel ran out of targets and bombs. You are sadly mistaken if you think Biden has any pull in Israel.

I do not understand people like yourself who put Israel before all else including genocide.


Blame Hamas for using Palestinians as human shields. What is happening is a tragedy, but let's put the blame where it belongs. Hamas has broken every cease fire that has been negotiated.

Israel has enough firepower that if they really wanted to erase Palestinians, they could have already.

That isn't genocide. Hamas has Jewish genocide in its charter. There is a difference.

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Biden can barely speak. Trump can speak but anlmost everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.


Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then. No complaints then when he screws your family over.


My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him.


Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody. It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.


If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate?


What is your point? Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better? That is utter nonsense.


The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate.


Holy clueless. Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it. You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.

You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.


But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...

You need help with math. A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.


You don’t understand the electoral college.


+1. Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.

Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from. Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters. It just hurts your cause.


Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win? Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends. Should be easy.

A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other. Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes. Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.


You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.

Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals. Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s? That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.



Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots

It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice.

If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.


It is too late to nominate anyone else. The ballot deadlines have passed in numerous states. Another half dozen have their deadlines in the next two weeks. Biden is it.


Well we should start practicing bowing to overlord Trump because Biden will not win. This is turning in to a RBG thing. Biden was so stupid with his unconditional support of Israel. That sh#tshow will be much much worst by next November.


So you think the GOP doesn't have unconditional support for Israel?

Do you think the GOP would have provided aid to the people of Gaza or negotiated a humanitarian pause?

Because that is fantasyland.


The Republicans would let Israel do whatever it wanted and that is exactly what Biden has done. The democrats are supposed to be better than that. Have you listened to Biden’s rhetoric about the Palestinians? I have and he has lost my vote and I am not alone. Oh and Biden has not negotiated a pause. Israel ran out of targets and bombs. You are sadly mistaken if you think Biden has any pull in Israel.

I do not understand people like yourself who put Israel before all else including genocide.


Blame Hamas for using Palestinians as human shields. What is happening is a tragedy, but let's put the blame where it belongs. Hamas has broken every cease fire that has been negotiated.

Israel has enough firepower that if they really wanted to erase Palestinians, they could have already.

That isn't genocide. Hamas has Jewish genocide in its charter. There is a difference.


It's a mess and we need a Lincoln or FDR caliber leader to lead the US and the world to a better place. We aren't going to find that in a Trump or Biden through 2029.
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Biden can barely speak. Trump can speak but anlmost everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.


Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then. No complaints then when he screws your family over.


My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him.


Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody. It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.


If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate?


What is your point? Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better? That is utter nonsense.


The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate.


Holy clueless. Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it. You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.

You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.


But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...

You need help with math. A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.


You don’t understand the electoral college.


+1. Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.

Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from. Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters. It just hurts your cause.


Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win? Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends. Should be easy.

A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other. Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes. Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.


You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.

Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals. Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s? That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.



Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots

It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice.

If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.


It is too late to nominate anyone else. The ballot deadlines have passed in numerous states. Another half dozen have their deadlines in the next two weeks. Biden is it.


Well we should start practicing bowing to overlord Trump because Biden will not win. This is turning in to a RBG thing. Biden was so stupid with his unconditional support of Israel. That sh#tshow will be much much worst by next November.


So you think the GOP doesn't have unconditional support for Israel?

Do you think the GOP would have provided aid to the people of Gaza or negotiated a humanitarian pause?

Because that is fantasyland.


The Republicans would let Israel do whatever it wanted and that is exactly what Biden has done. The democrats are supposed to be better than that. Have you listened to Biden’s rhetoric about the Palestinians? I have and he has lost my vote and I am not alone. Oh and Biden has not negotiated a pause. Israel ran out of targets and bombs. You are sadly mistaken if you think Biden has any pull in Israel.

I do not understand people like yourself who put Israel before all else including genocide.


Ironically it’s actually you that’s prioritizing anti-Israel sentiment in your vote. Not our own democracy, abortion rights, the economy, climate change, and so on. Chew on that.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m one of those unlikely to vote if the choice is between Trump and Biden. We need another moderate choice.

+1
Biden can barely speak. Trump can speak but anlmost everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.


Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then. No complaints then when he screws your family over.


My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him.


Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody. It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.


If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate?


What is your point? Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better? That is utter nonsense.


The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate.


Holy clueless. Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it. You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.

You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.


But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...

You need help with math. A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.


You don’t understand the electoral college.


+1. Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.

Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from. Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters. It just hurts your cause.


Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win? Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends. Should be easy.

A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other. Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes. Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.


You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.

Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals. Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s? That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.



Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots

It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice.

If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.


It is too late to nominate anyone else. The ballot deadlines have passed in numerous states. Another half dozen have their deadlines in the next two weeks. Biden is it.


Well we should start practicing bowing to overlord Trump because Biden will not win. This is turning in to a RBG thing. Biden was so stupid with his unconditional support of Israel. That sh#tshow will be much much worst by next November.

Biden still has a chance to win simply because Trump is so awful. Let's all hope and pray Biden does the right thing by choosing to back out of the 2024 race so Trump definitely isn't back in office in January 2025.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m one of those unlikely to vote if the choice is between Trump and Biden. We need another moderate choice.

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Biden can barely speak. Trump can speak but anlmost everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.


Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then. No complaints then when he screws your family over.


My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him.


Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody. It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.


If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate?


What is your point? Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better? That is utter nonsense.


The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate.


Holy clueless. Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it. You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.

You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.


But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...

You need help with math. A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.


You don’t understand the electoral college.


+1. Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.

Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from. Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters. It just hurts your cause.


Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win? Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends. Should be easy.

A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other. Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes. Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.


You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.

Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals. Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s? That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.



Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots

It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice.

If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.


It is too late to nominate anyone else. The ballot deadlines have passed in numerous states. Another half dozen have their deadlines in the next two weeks. Biden is it.


Well we should start practicing bowing to overlord Trump because Biden will not win. This is turning in to a RBG thing. Biden was so stupid with his unconditional support of Israel. That sh#tshow will be much much worst by next November.

Biden still has a chance to win simply because Trump is so awful. Let's all hope and pray Biden does the right thing by choosing to back out of the 2024 race so Trump definitely isn't back in office in January 2025.


Of course he has a chance to win. He is the only one that has beat trump so good for him.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m one of those unlikely to vote if the choice is between Trump and Biden. We need another moderate choice.

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Biden can barely speak. Trump can speak but anlmost everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.


Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then. No complaints then when he screws your family over.


My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him.


Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody. It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.


If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate?


What is your point? Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better? That is utter nonsense.


The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate.


Holy clueless. Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it. You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.

You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.


But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...

You need help with math. A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.


You don’t understand the electoral college.


+1. Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.

Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from. Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters. It just hurts your cause.


Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win? Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends. Should be easy.

A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other. Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes. Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.


You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.

Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals. Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s? That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.



Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots

It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice.

If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.


It is too late to nominate anyone else. The ballot deadlines have passed in numerous states. Another half dozen have their deadlines in the next two weeks. Biden is it.


Well we should start practicing bowing to overlord Trump because Biden will not win. This is turning in to a RBG thing. Biden was so stupid with his unconditional support of Israel. That sh#tshow will be much much worst by next November.


So you think the GOP doesn't have unconditional support for Israel?

Do you think the GOP would have provided aid to the people of Gaza or negotiated a humanitarian pause?

Because that is fantasyland.


Muslims in Michigan, who Biden needs to win, are screaming that this will make them stay home. Democrats have this amazing ability to ignore their own voters who couldn't possibly be clearer and then be surprised when the voters do the thing they said they would do
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Anonymous wrote:I’m one of those unlikely to vote if the choice is between Trump and Biden. We need another moderate choice.

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Biden can barely speak. Trump can speak but anlmost everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.


Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then. No complaints then when he screws your family over.


My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him.


Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody. It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.


If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate?


What is your point? Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better? That is utter nonsense.


The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate.


Holy clueless. Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it. You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.

You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.


But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...

You need help with math. A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.


You don’t understand the electoral college.


+1. Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.

Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from. Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters. It just hurts your cause.


Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win? Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends. Should be easy.

A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other. Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes. Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.


You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.

Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals. Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s? That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.



Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots

It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice.

If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.


It is too late to nominate anyone else. The ballot deadlines have passed in numerous states. Another half dozen have their deadlines in the next two weeks. Biden is it.


Well we should start practicing bowing to overlord Trump because Biden will not win. This is turning in to a RBG thing. Biden was so stupid with his unconditional support of Israel. That sh#tshow will be much much worst by next November.


So you think the GOP doesn't have unconditional support for Israel?

Do you think the GOP would have provided aid to the people of Gaza or negotiated a humanitarian pause?

Because that is fantasyland.


Muslims in Michigan, who Biden needs to win, are screaming that this will make them stay home. Democrats have this amazing ability to ignore their own voters who couldn't possibly be clearer and then be surprised when the voters do the thing they said they would do

Pretty sure the leadership within the Dem party is doing all they can right now to convince Biden not to run in 2024. Let's hope they are anyway. Too much is at stake.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m one of those unlikely to vote if the choice is between Trump and Biden. We need another moderate choice.

+1
Biden can barely speak. Trump can speak but anlmost everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.


Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then. No complaints then when he screws your family over.


My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him.


Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody. It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.


If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate?


What is your point? Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better? That is utter nonsense.


The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate.


Holy clueless. Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it. You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.

You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.


But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...

You need help with math. A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.


You don’t understand the electoral college.


+1. Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.

Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from. Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters. It just hurts your cause.


Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win? Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends. Should be easy.

A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other. Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes. Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.


You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.

Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals. Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s? That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.



Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots

It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice.

If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.


It is too late to nominate anyone else. The ballot deadlines have passed in numerous states. Another half dozen have their deadlines in the next two weeks. Biden is it.


Well we should start practicing bowing to overlord Trump because Biden will not win. This is turning in to a RBG thing. Biden was so stupid with his unconditional support of Israel. That sh#tshow will be much much worst by next November.


So you think the GOP doesn't have unconditional support for Israel?

Do you think the GOP would have provided aid to the people of Gaza or negotiated a humanitarian pause?

Because that is fantasyland.


Muslims in Michigan, who Biden needs to win, are screaming that this will make them stay home. Democrats have this amazing ability to ignore their own voters who couldn't possibly be clearer and then be surprised when the voters do the thing they said they would do


And in Michigan there are just as many union workers who voted for someone other than Biden in the past who will vote for him now.

I guess if Muslims in Michigan want to let Trump win and then be deported because they are Muslim, then they win or something.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m one of those unlikely to vote if the choice is between Trump and Biden. We need another moderate choice.

+1
Biden can barely speak. Trump can speak but anlmost everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.


Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then. No complaints then when he screws your family over.


My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him.


Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody. It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.


If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate?


What is your point? Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better? That is utter nonsense.


The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate.


Holy clueless. Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it. You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.

You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.


But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...

You need help with math. A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.


You don’t understand the electoral college.


+1. Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.

Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from. Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters. It just hurts your cause.


Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win? Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends. Should be easy.

A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other. Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes. Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.


You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.

Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals. Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s? That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.



Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots

It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice.

If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.


It is too late to nominate anyone else. The ballot deadlines have passed in numerous states. Another half dozen have their deadlines in the next two weeks. Biden is it.


Well we should start practicing bowing to overlord Trump because Biden will not win. This is turning in to a RBG thing. Biden was so stupid with his unconditional support of Israel. That sh#tshow will be much much worst by next November.


So you think the GOP doesn't have unconditional support for Israel?

Do you think the GOP would have provided aid to the people of Gaza or negotiated a humanitarian pause?

Because that is fantasyland.


Muslims in Michigan, who Biden needs to win, are screaming that this will make them stay home. Democrats have this amazing ability to ignore their own voters who couldn't possibly be clearer and then be surprised when the voters do the thing they said they would do

Pretty sure the leadership within the Dem party is doing all they can right now to convince Biden not to run in 2024. Let's hope they are anyway. Too much is at stake.


Who has the gravitas in the country to tell a sitting president not to run for re-election?
And say he does step back, why would the Dems want to have the same "dems in disarray" fights about progressives versus moderates that the GOP is having right now? Why open the party up to that at this critical time?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m one of those unlikely to vote if the choice is between Trump and Biden. We need another moderate choice.

+1
Biden can barely speak. Trump can speak but anlmost everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.


Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then. No complaints then when he screws your family over.


My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him.


Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody. It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.


If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate?


What is your point? Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better? That is utter nonsense.


The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate.


Holy clueless. Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it. You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.

You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.


But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...

You need help with math. A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.


You don’t understand the electoral college.


+1. Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.

Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from. Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters. It just hurts your cause.


Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win? Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends. Should be easy.

A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other. Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes. Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.


You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.

Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals. Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s? That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.



Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots

It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice.

If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.


It is too late to nominate anyone else. The ballot deadlines have passed in numerous states. Another half dozen have their deadlines in the next two weeks. Biden is it.


Well we should start practicing bowing to overlord Trump because Biden will not win. This is turning in to a RBG thing. Biden was so stupid with his unconditional support of Israel. That sh#tshow will be much much worst by next November.


So you think the GOP doesn't have unconditional support for Israel?

Do you think the GOP would have provided aid to the people of Gaza or negotiated a humanitarian pause?

Because that is fantasyland.


Muslims in Michigan, who Biden needs to win, are screaming that this will make them stay home. Democrats have this amazing ability to ignore their own voters who couldn't possibly be clearer and then be surprised when the voters do the thing they said they would do


And in Michigan there are just as many union workers who voted for someone other than Biden in the past who will vote for him now.

I guess if Muslims in Michigan want to let Trump win and then be deported because they are Muslim, then they win or something.

Or better yet, Biden could step away so that a real candidate could crush Trump to smithereens and all of this disgustingly sad Trump vs Biden rhetoric will be a moot point.
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