To people frustrated with Biden who say they won’t vote in 2024
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Anonymous
The DNC doesn’t have to nominate him. Will this happen? Probably not but there’s still a chance. |
Anonymous
Because the Dems have momentum and would easily be able to beat a candidate as flawed as Trump if the Dem nominee was a normal candidate. There is simply too much at stake to sit back and be content with a weak candidate in this circumstance. You and I may not think he is a weak candidate but enough of the American people do to make this a problem. Ignoring that fact will put Trump back in office. Which side are you really on? Thank you for your service, Joe. Goodbye. |
Anonymous
While Biden’s age doesn’t help, I think most people who are the ones who previously voted D and may sit out are frustrated with Democrats in general. “ In the past few decades, the Democratic Party has undergone a seismic shift. Kitchen table issues like the economy and public safety have been overshadowed by more elitist topics like identity politics, gender ideology, defunding the police, climate change, and the vaguely defined yet rigidly enforced ideology of anti-racism, which sees white supremacy as the force behind every institution in America. But while activists, lobbyists, and pundits were busy reshaping the Democratic Party, ordinary voters—including the working class, middle-class families, and ethnic minorities—were simply leaving. All of which has stranded a large group of Americans on an island, voters in the center of nowhere. “ |
Anonymous
What makes you assume that blue collar workers are now a democratic constituency? Ever since Clinton and the new democrats abandoned labor, blue collar workers and especially white blue collar workers in the rust belt have been moving to the republican party. |
Anonymous
You’ve been right wing propagandized. First, the GOP hates workers and keeps showing this. Second, families with a union member voted more Democratic than those without a union member. Why? Because Democrats support unions. The GOP destroys unions. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1184429/presidential-election-exit-polls-share-votes-union-membership-us/ |
Anonymous
+1 And people keep thinking Michigan was close last time - it wasn’t. Biden won it by 150,000 votes, Republicans haven’t won a statewide office since 2016 and Democrats flipped the legislature for the first time since the 1980s and now have a trifecta. Not worried about Michigan. |
Anonymous
Unlike the GOP’s rather weak relationship to democracy, the primary voters selected Biden. If you want to talk about old and decrepit and ought to be pulled, that’s Trump. Seriously, you guys are such whiners. Trump tried to overthrow the government. All of his perfect amazing plans are two weeks away, always. The GOP wants to destroy democracy. They will ban abortion and birth control nationwide. Grow up and quit whining. |
Anonymous
No president did more to destroy unions in this country than Clinton through NAFTA and supporting China's ascension to the WTO. If neither party supports you economically, you might as well vote for the party that aligns with you on social issues |
Anonymous
Oh, now you want to change the subject from unions to “social issues”? Because I see your Clinton and raise you a Reagan. Then, I’d add a “right to work” and a constant weakening of every union (except the police union) by the GOP. And social issues? The Democrats win by a mile. What does the GOP offer besides forced birth, anti-education, more fundamentalist churches funded by tax payers and division? Nothing. |
Anonymous
With suburbanites. Neither side really supports unions any more, Biden made some performative efforts, but he crushed the railway workers without a second thought. |
Anonymous
The pitiful performances of our two political parties over the past two decades has pushed away some once loyal voters but Americans are still inclined to vote for R & D candidates as evidenced by recent record voters turnouts and 96% to 98% of all votes continuing to be casts for their candidates. One day soon the parties will have to get back to putting forth strong, effective leaders that all Americans can respect and unite under during difficult times. |
Anonymous
PP, it only matters if voters, if only a handful of very well placed ones, hold this view. Most of the Dems on this board just think what they see as GOP awfulness while save the Dems bacon. It’s delusional. If anyone has been ruined by propaganda it’s you, not the poster to whom you responded. You need to have a mind for seeing beyond the long-in-the-tooth Democratic establishment, not just a mind for rationalizing their failures. |
Anonymous
You realize NAFTA was negotiated and finalized under Papa Bush, right? Clinton had to sign the agreement because it became the law. |
Anonymous
The economy was still teetering when that took place. I suspect that if the Rail workers tried again, Biden would support them now, because the economy is in a much better place. |
Anonymous
This is a hoot! NAFTA absolutely had deep Clinton support. He did not *have* to go ahead with it, he chose to do so. |