Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:9 out of 10 aren't showing up at immigration hearings, according to new DHS testimony.

"In testimony before Congress this month, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials said that the agency had recently conducted a pilot program with the Department of Justice (DOJ) to test how many recent illegal aliens would show up to their asylum hearings after being released into the U.S.

The results, an ICE official told Congress, were that about 87 percent of illegal aliens, or almost 9-in-10, recently released by DHS into the U.S. did not show up to their asylum hearings. With illegal aliens not showing up to their scheduled hearings, the ICE official said, the agency is then forced to grapple with attempting to locate and deport each illegal alien, an almost impossible task that strains federal resources."

Similarly, only about 12% legally qualify for asylum.

This is unacceptable. When will Congress get off their butts and act?

Crickets. Liberals like their open border policy.
Especially Joe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/border-patrol-rio-grande-overcrowding

Article I read tonight in the NYT. Why has the border been busier the past month? Because reading this alarms me, a moderate Democrat. I see Trump using this to his benefit.

No need to be alarmed. A bunch of families fleeing violence is not a threat to you. Kim Jung Un continuing to develop a nuclear arsenal unchecked by Donald Trump is a much more serious threat.

What exactly did Barack and Joe do for EIGHT years?

THIS.

Anyone?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/border-patrol-rio-grande-overcrowding

Article I read tonight in the NYT. Why has the border been busier the past month? Because reading this alarms me, a moderate Democrat. I see Trump using this to his benefit.

No need to be alarmed. A bunch of families fleeing violence is not a threat to you. Kim Jung Un continuing to develop a nuclear arsenal unchecked by Donald Trump is a much more serious threat.

What exactly did Barack and Joe do for EIGHT years?

THIS.

Anyone?

What did they do? They reduced illegal immigration.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/border-patrol-rio-grande-overcrowding

Article I read tonight in the NYT. Why has the border been busier the past month? Because reading this alarms me, a moderate Democrat. I see Trump using this to his benefit.

No need to be alarmed. A bunch of families fleeing violence is not a threat to you. Kim Jung Un continuing to develop a nuclear arsenal unchecked by Donald Trump is a much more serious threat.

What exactly did Barack and Joe do for EIGHT years?

THIS.

Anyone?

What did they do? They reduced illegal immigration.

WOW, massive reduction! LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/border-patrol-rio-grande-overcrowding

Article I read tonight in the NYT. Why has the border been busier the past month? Because reading this alarms me, a moderate Democrat. I see Trump using this to his benefit.

No need to be alarmed. A bunch of families fleeing violence is not a threat to you. Kim Jung Un continuing to develop a nuclear arsenal unchecked by Donald Trump is a much more serious threat.

What exactly did Barack and Joe do for EIGHT years?

THIS.

Anyone?

What did they do? They reduced illegal immigration.

WOW, massive reduction! LOL

And deported a bunch of people. Lots more than Bush did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/border-patrol-rio-grande-overcrowding

Article I read tonight in the NYT. Why has the border been busier the past month? Because reading this alarms me, a moderate Democrat. I see Trump using this to his benefit.

No need to be alarmed. A bunch of families fleeing violence is not a threat to you. Kim Jung Un continuing to develop a nuclear arsenal unchecked by Donald Trump is a much more serious threat.

What exactly did Barack and Joe do for EIGHT years?

THIS.

Anyone?

What did they do? They reduced illegal immigration.

WOW, massive reduction! LOL

And deported a bunch of people. Lots more than Bush did.

There are three kinds of lies.... lies, damned lies, and statistics.

It is easy to manipulate the data when you change the meaning of terminology related to deportation........

Somehow, the Obama administration is simultaneously responsible for the highest rate of deportation in 20 years and a 26 percent drop in deportation. What is going on here? As it turns out, changes in immigration law, terminology and classification are causing this confusion.

One problem is the continued use of “deportation” in virtually all media reporting. In actuality, that category has been obsolete in immigration law since 1996. Prior to 1996, immigration law distinguished between immigrants who were “excluded,” or stopped and prevented from entering U.S. territory, and those who were “deported,” or expelled from the United States after they had made their way into U.S. territory. After 1996, both exclusion and deportation were rolled into one procedure called “removal.” At that point, the term “deportation” no longer had any meaning within the official immigration statistics. Its continued use in media reports is part of the confusion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/21/lies-damned-lies-and-obamas-deportation-statistics/?utm_term=.41dd7e6e1f41

[Anonymous]

Why don’t Democrats talk about their plan?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why don’t Democrats talk about their plan?

It's difficult to discuss something that simply doesn't exist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/border-patrol-rio-grande-overcrowding

Article I read tonight in the NYT. Why has the border been busier the past month? Because reading this alarms me, a moderate Democrat. I see Trump using this to his benefit.

No need to be alarmed. A bunch of families fleeing violence is not a threat to you. Kim Jung Un continuing to develop a nuclear arsenal unchecked by Donald Trump is a much more serious threat.

What exactly did Barack and Joe do for EIGHT years?

THIS.

Anyone?

What did they do? They reduced illegal immigration.

WOW, massive reduction! LOL

And deported a bunch of people. Lots more than Bush did.

There are three kinds of lies.... lies, damned lies, and statistics.

It is easy to manipulate the data when you change the meaning of terminology related to deportation........

Somehow, the Obama administration is simultaneously responsible for the highest rate of deportation in 20 years and a 26 percent drop in deportation. What is going on here? As it turns out, changes in immigration law, terminology and classification are causing this confusion.

One problem is the continued use of “deportation” in virtually all media reporting. In actuality, that category has been obsolete in immigration law since 1996. Prior to 1996, immigration law distinguished between immigrants who were “excluded,” or stopped and prevented from entering U.S. territory, and those who were “deported,” or expelled from the United States after they had made their way into U.S. territory. After 1996, both exclusion and deportation were rolled into one procedure called “removal.” At that point, the term “deportation” no longer had any meaning within the official immigration statistics. Its continued use in media reports is part of the confusion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/21/lies-damned-lies-and-obamas-deportation-statistics/?utm_term=.41dd7e6e1f41

That's a change that happened in 1996, well before Obama and as such wouldn't account for any new change in the figures during Obama's term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don’t Democrats talk about their plan?

It's difficult to discuss something that simply doesn't exist.

New plan on the part of the administration is to stem the flow from the southern border of the USA via an agreement with Guatemala. Mexico borders Guatemala on the Guatemala's side of the Mexican border. https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-administration-to-send-dhs-agents-investigators-to-guatemala-mexico-border/2019/05/31/25bb9f0e-83b2-11e9-bce7-40b4105f7ca0_story.html?utm_term=.9bf05825bf5b

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Guatemala/@15.711383,-92.4791813,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x8588135036e7506b:0x35982b375b84d5bb!8m2!3d15.783471!4d-90.230759

Cross into Guatelama from Honduras and El Salvador. From Guatemala can cross into Belize>Mexico>USA or Guatemala>Mexico>USA.

Actually that is a rather brilliant plan and I'm surprised it wasn't done over the last 2 decades. USA increases assistance to Guatemala. Belize does not want the problems of irregular migration.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/border-patrol-rio-grande-overcrowding

Article I read tonight in the NYT. Why has the border been busier the past month? Because reading this alarms me, a moderate Democrat. I see Trump using this to his benefit.

No need to be alarmed. A bunch of families fleeing violence is not a threat to you. Kim Jung Un continuing to develop a nuclear arsenal unchecked by Donald Trump is a much more serious threat.

What exactly did Barack and Joe do for EIGHT years?

THIS.

Anyone?

What did they do? They reduced illegal immigration.

WOW, massive reduction! LOL

And deported a bunch of people. Lots more than Bush did.

There are three kinds of lies.... lies, damned lies, and statistics.

It is easy to manipulate the data when you change the meaning of terminology related to deportation........

Somehow, the Obama administration is simultaneously responsible for the highest rate of deportation in 20 years and a 26 percent drop in deportation. What is going on here? As it turns out, changes in immigration law, terminology and classification are causing this confusion.

One problem is the continued use of “deportation” in virtually all media reporting. In actuality, that category has been obsolete in immigration law since 1996. Prior to 1996, immigration law distinguished between immigrants who were “excluded,” or stopped and prevented from entering U.S. territory, and those who were “deported,” or expelled from the United States after they had made their way into U.S. territory. After 1996, both exclusion and deportation were rolled into one procedure called “removal.” At that point, the term “deportation” no longer had any meaning within the official immigration statistics. Its continued use in media reports is part of the confusion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/21/lies-damned-lies-and-obamas-deportation-statistics/?utm_term=.41dd7e6e1f41

That's a change that happened in 1996, well before Obama and as such wouldn't account for any new change in the figures during Obama's term.

Yes, please explain how this change made in 1996 was manipulating data 20 years later?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Recent release, 5000 per day plus. You figure it out how the USA is going to support financially the influx. I'm not against legal immigration, I'm against illegal immigration. We've had plenty of bad illegal MS-13 immigrants here in DC/MD/VA with multiple horrific deaths.

My main question is, with current $22 trillion USA debt, who is going to pay for this massive illegal or alian immigration? I'm not blaming Trump alone, much of this happened since the 2007 second great recession and then feeding the financial frezy. I would have preferred infrastructure investment and going after those who caused the 2007 mess.

So, the USA will go bankrupt? Serious question here folks!

Libs seem to WANT this country to go bankrupt.

Why?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/border-patrol-rio-grande-overcrowding

Article I read tonight in the NYT. Why has the border been busier the past month? Because reading this alarms me, a moderate Democrat. I see Trump using this to his benefit.

No need to be alarmed. A bunch of families fleeing violence is not a threat to you. Kim Jung Un continuing to develop a nuclear arsenal unchecked by Donald Trump is a much more serious threat.

What exactly did Barack and Joe do for EIGHT years?

THIS.

Anyone?

What did they do? They reduced illegal immigration.

WOW, massive reduction! LOL

And deported a bunch of people. Lots more than Bush did.

There are three kinds of lies.... lies, damned lies, and statistics.

It is easy to manipulate the data when you change the meaning of terminology related to deportation........

Somehow, the Obama administration is simultaneously responsible for the highest rate of deportation in 20 years and a 26 percent drop in deportation. What is going on here? As it turns out, changes in immigration law, terminology and classification are causing this confusion.

One problem is the continued use of “deportation” in virtually all media reporting. In actuality, that category has been obsolete in immigration law since 1996. Prior to 1996, immigration law distinguished between immigrants who were “excluded,” or stopped and prevented from entering U.S. territory, and those who were “deported,” or expelled from the United States after they had made their way into U.S. territory. After 1996, both exclusion and deportation were rolled into one procedure called “removal.” At that point, the term “deportation” no longer had any meaning within the official immigration statistics. Its continued use in media reports is part of the confusion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/21/lies-damned-lies-and-obamas-deportation-statistics/?utm_term=.41dd7e6e1f41

That's a change that happened in 1996, well before Obama and as such wouldn't account for any new change in the figures during Obama's term.

Yes, please explain how this change made in 1996 was manipulating data 20 years later?

This will hopefully explain it.... the difference between "returns" and "removals."

The key is how you define the term “deport”—and what you think about a broad change in policy that started during the Bush administration and has continued under Obama.

Under Bush, the majority of immigrants that the U.S. sent home were simply “returned.” Nobody took their fingerprints or put a permanent mark on their immigration records. Instead, U.S. authorities put them on buses and sent them back across the border. Between 2001 and 2008, there were over 8.3 million of these informal “returns,” according to the Department of Homeland Security. There were, by contrast, just 2 million “removals.” Those are the more formal deportations—the ones that go through some form of individual review, with an officer if not a judge, and become part of deportees’ permanent records.

But in the second half of the Bush administration, DHS decided to up the number of “removals” and limit the number of “returns.” The government hoped to deter immigrants from sneaking back into the country by making it clear that the U.S. knew who they were—and could punish them more harshly if they showed up again. Under Obama, DHS has stuck with this policy. Between 2009 and 2012, the number of deportations and informal returns was roughly the same—about 1.6 million each. Add up all the relevant numbers, you’ll see removals are on track to end up higher under Obama than Bush (Lind’s point in Vox) but that removals plus returns will end up higher under Bush than Obama (Davis’ point in The Federalist).

https://newrepublic.com/article/117412/deportations-under-obama-vs-bush-who-deported-more-immigrants

[Anonymous]

Since some Liberal here said Republicans don’t like E-verify,

Why aren’t Domocrat controlled states
mandating the use of E-verify?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since some Liberal here said Republicans don’t like E-verify,

Why aren’t Domocrat controlled states
mandating the use of E-verify?

Are the Republicans states? Start at home, son.