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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/border-patrol-rio-grande-overcrowding

Article I read tonight in the NYT. Why has the border been busier the past month? Because reading this alarms me, a moderate Democrat. I see Trump using this to his benefit.[/quote]

No need to be alarmed.  A bunch of families fleeing violence is not a threat to you.  Kim Jung Un continuing to develop a nuclear arsenal unchecked by Donald Trump is a much more serious threat.[/quote]
What exactly did Barack and Joe do for EIGHT years?[/quote]

THIS. [/quote]
Anyone?[/quote]

What did they do? They reduced illegal immigration. 
[img]https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/GMD_18.09.15_Unauthorized-Immigrant_Featured-Image.png[/img]

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WOW, massive reduction! LOL[/quote]

And deported a bunch of people. Lots more than Bush did. 
[img]http://infographic.statista.com/normal/chartoftheday_2802_Deportations_from_the_United_States_Reached_a_Record_High_in_2013_n.jpg[/img]
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There are three kinds of lies.... lies, damned lies, and statistics.

It is easy to manipulate the data when you change the meaning of terminology related to deportation........

[quote]Somehow, the Obama administration is simultaneously responsible for the highest rate of deportation in 20 years and a 26 percent drop in deportation. [b]What is going on here? As it turns out, changes in immigration law, terminology and classification are causing this confusion.[/b]

One problem is the continued use of “deportation” in virtually all media reporting. In actuality, that category has been obsolete in immigration law since 1996. Prior to 1996, immigration law distinguished between immigrants who were “excluded,” or stopped and prevented from entering U.S. territory, and those who were “deported,” or expelled from the United States after they had made their way into U.S. territory. After 1996, both exclusion and deportation were rolled into one procedure called “removal.” At that point, the term “deportation” no longer had any meaning within the official immigration statistics. Its continued use in media reports is part of the confusion.[/quote]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/21/lies-damned-lies-and-obamas-deportation-statistics/?utm_term=.41dd7e6e1f41[/quote]

That's a change that happened in 1996, well before Obama and as such wouldn't account for any new change in the figures during Obama's term.[/quote]

Yes, please explain how this change made in 1996 was manipulating data 20 years later? 
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This will hopefully explain it.... the difference between "returns" and "removals."

[quote]The key is how you define the term “deport”—and what you think about a broad change in policy that started during the Bush administration and has continued under Obama.

Under Bush, the majority of immigrants that the U.S. sent home were simply “returned.” Nobody took their fingerprints or put a permanent mark on their immigration records. Instead, U.S. authorities put them on buses and sent them back across the border. Between 2001 and 2008, there were over 8.3 million of these informal “returns,” according to the Department of Homeland Security. There were, by contrast, just 2 million “removals.” Those are the more formal deportations—the ones that go through some form of individual review, with an officer if not a judge, and become part of deportees’ permanent records.

But in the second half of the Bush administration, DHS decided to up the number of “removals” and limit the number of “returns.” The government hoped to deter immigrants from sneaking back into the country by making it clear that the U.S. knew who they were—and could punish them more harshly if they showed up again. Under Obama, DHS has stuck with this policy. Between 2009 and 2012, the number of deportations and informal returns was roughly the same—about 1.6 million each. Add up all the relevant numbers, you’ll see removals are on track to end up higher under Obama than Bush (Lind’s point in Vox) but that removals plus returns will end up higher under Bush than Obama (Davis’ point in The Federalist).[/quote]

https://newrepublic.com/article/117412/deportations-under-obama-vs-bush-who-deported-more-immigrants[/quote]

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