Gov Hogan announcement re schools this week?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Italy is doing so well now because they had the highest death rate per capita in the world from covid. Not sure why you would be pointing to them as an exemplar unless you want us to unleash the virus on all the nursing homes or something similar.

Nope. There are other countries with similar stats to Italy who are also doing well, who never had Italy's high death rates.

These are the stats we need to have NOW to be able to reopen.

We need to be:

1) testing a LOT of people.
2) have a 2% positivity rate
3) have 20 new cases per million per day or less

Italy is doing it. Other countries that didn't have Italy's experience are doing it.

Some of our states are doing it.

Maryland is NOT doing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Italy is doing so well now because they had the highest death rate per capita in the world from covid. Not sure why you would be pointing to them as an exemplar unless you want us to unleash the virus on all the nursing homes or something similar.

Nope. There are other countries with similar stats to Italy who are also doing well, who never had Italy's high death rates.

These are the stats we need to have NOW to be able to reopen.

We need to be:

1) testing a LOT of people.
2) have a 2% positivity rate
3) have 20 new cases per million per day or less

Italy is doing it. Other countries that didn't have Italy's experience are doing it.

Some of our states are doing it.

Maryland is NOT doing it.

20 new cases per million? I believe you mean 100,000.

We are testing a lot of people in MD, that isn’t an issue. We also have extremely quick turnaround time for test results, among the most rapid of all the states.

Everyone wants to see the stats continue to get better, as they have been doing for the past two months.

Some people just can’t stop looking for bad news when surrounded by pretty good news. Perhaps you would be happier living in the south where you could actually have a basis for your complaints.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Italy is doing so well now because they had the highest death rate per capita in the world from covid. Not sure why you would be pointing to them as an exemplar unless you want us to unleash the virus on all the nursing homes or something similar.

Nope. There are other countries with similar stats to Italy who are also doing well, who never had Italy's high death rates.

These are the stats we need to have NOW to be able to reopen.

We need to be:

1) testing a LOT of people.
2) have a 2% positivity rate
3) have 20 new cases per million per day or less

Italy is doing it. Other countries that didn't have Italy's experience are doing it.

Some of our states are doing it.

Maryland is NOT doing it.

NY actually announced standards for reopening, positivity rate below 5 percent for initial reopening in person. We are there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Italy is doing so well now because they had the highest death rate per capita in the world from covid. Not sure why you would be pointing to them as an exemplar unless you want us to unleash the virus on all the nursing homes or something similar.

Nope. There are other countries with similar stats to Italy who are also doing well, who never had Italy's high death rates.

These are the stats we need to have NOW to be able to reopen.

We need to be:

1) testing a LOT of people.
2) have a 2% positivity rate
3) have 20 new cases per million per day or less

Italy is doing it. Other countries that didn't have Italy's experience are doing it.

Some of our states are doing it.

Maryland is NOT doing it.

20 new cases per million? I believe you mean 100,000.

We are testing a lot of people in MD, that isn’t an issue. We also have extremely quick turnaround time for test results, among the most rapid of all the states.

Everyone wants to see the stats continue to get better, as they have been doing for the past two months.

Some people just can’t stop looking for bad news when surrounded by pretty good news. Perhaps you would be happier living in the south where you could actually have a basis for your complaints.

PP, better than the South isn't the standard for reopening schools. There was an article in the Washington Post last week that discussed metrics and stated that schools have not opened anywhere in the world with the "good numbers" we have in Maryland. While the numbers may be relatively good compared to other areas of the country, they don't reflect the low level of community spread found in European and Asian nations that reopened schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Italy is doing so well now because they had the highest death rate per capita in the world from covid. Not sure why you would be pointing to them as an exemplar unless you want us to unleash the virus on all the nursing homes or something similar.

Nope. There are other countries with similar stats to Italy who are also doing well, who never had Italy's high death rates.

These are the stats we need to have NOW to be able to reopen.

We need to be:

1) testing a LOT of people.
2) have a 2% positivity rate
3) have 20 new cases per million per day or less

Italy is doing it. Other countries that didn't have Italy's experience are doing it.

Some of our states are doing it.

Maryland is NOT doing it.

20 new cases per million? I believe you mean 100,000.

We are testing a lot of people in MD, that isn’t an issue. We also have extremely quick turnaround time for test results, among the most rapid of all the states.

Everyone wants to see the stats continue to get better, as they have been doing for the past two months.

Some people just can’t stop looking for bad news when surrounded by pretty good news. Perhaps you would be happier living in the south where you could actually have a basis for your complaints.

NP here, but nope -- 20 new cases per million should be the target. See the map here to see all the countries in Europe that have hit this target: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/new-covid-cases-per-million

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Italy is doing so well now because they had the highest death rate per capita in the world from covid. Not sure why you would be pointing to them as an exemplar unless you want us to unleash the virus on all the nursing homes or something similar.

Nope. There are other countries with similar stats to Italy who are also doing well, who never had Italy's high death rates.

These are the stats we need to have NOW to be able to reopen.

We need to be:

1) testing a LOT of people.
2) have a 2% positivity rate
3) have 20 new cases per million per day or less

Italy is doing it. Other countries that didn't have Italy's experience are doing it.

Some of our states are doing it.

Maryland is NOT doing it.

20 new cases per million? I believe you mean 100,000.

We are testing a lot of people in MD, that isn’t an issue. We also have extremely quick turnaround time for test results, among the most rapid of all the states.

Everyone wants to see the stats continue to get better, as they have been doing for the past two months.

Some people just can’t stop looking for bad news when surrounded by pretty good news. Perhaps you would be happier living in the south where you could actually have a basis for your complaints.

PP, better than the South isn't the standard for reopening schools. There was an article in the Washington Post last week that discussed metrics and stated that schools have not opened anywhere in the world with the "good numbers" we have in Maryland. While the numbers may be relatively good compared to other areas of the country, they don't reflect the low level of community spread found in European and Asian nations that reopened schools.

You misunderstood, your thirst for pandemic porn would be better served if you lived in the south.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Italy is doing so well now because they had the highest death rate per capita in the world from covid. Not sure why you would be pointing to them as an exemplar unless you want us to unleash the virus on all the nursing homes or something similar.

Nope. There are other countries with similar stats to Italy who are also doing well, who never had Italy's high death rates.

These are the stats we need to have NOW to be able to reopen.

We need to be:

1) testing a LOT of people.
2) have a 2% positivity rate
3) have 20 new cases per million per day or less

Italy is doing it. Other countries that didn't have Italy's experience are doing it.

Some of our states are doing it.

Maryland is NOT doing it.

20 new cases per million? I believe you mean 100,000.

We are testing a lot of people in MD, that isn’t an issue. We also have extremely quick turnaround time for test results, among the most rapid of all the states.

Everyone wants to see the stats continue to get better, as they have been doing for the past two months.

Some people just can’t stop looking for bad news when surrounded by pretty good news. Perhaps you would be happier living in the south where you could actually have a basis for your complaints.

NP here, but nope -- 20 new cases per million should be the target. See the map here to see all the countries in Europe that have hit this target: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/new-covid-cases-per-million

Did you look at the graphic yourself. It says the main reason these countries have low numbers is limited testing. How did you miss that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Italy is doing so well now because they had the highest death rate per capita in the world from covid. Not sure why you would be pointing to them as an exemplar unless you want us to unleash the virus on all the nursing homes or something similar.

Nope. There are other countries with similar stats to Italy who are also doing well, who never had Italy's high death rates.

These are the stats we need to have NOW to be able to reopen.

We need to be:

1) testing a LOT of people.
2) have a 2% positivity rate
3) have 20 new cases per million per day or less

Italy is doing it. Other countries that didn't have Italy's experience are doing it.

Some of our states are doing it.

Maryland is NOT doing it.

NY actually announced standards for reopening, positivity rate below 5 percent for initial reopening in person. We are there.

Wow, really?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Italy is doing so well now because they had the highest death rate per capita in the world from covid. Not sure why you would be pointing to them as an exemplar unless you want us to unleash the virus on all the nursing homes or something similar.

Nope. There are other countries with similar stats to Italy who are also doing well, who never had Italy's high death rates.

These are the stats we need to have NOW to be able to reopen.

We need to be:

1) testing a LOT of people.
2) have a 2% positivity rate
3) have 20 new cases per million per day or less

Italy is doing it. Other countries that didn't have Italy's experience are doing it.

Some of our states are doing it.

Maryland is NOT doing it.

20 new cases per million? I believe you mean 100,000.

We are testing a lot of people in MD, that isn’t an issue. We also have extremely quick turnaround time for test results, among the most rapid of all the states.

Everyone wants to see the stats continue to get better, as they have been doing for the past two months.

Some people just can’t stop looking for bad news when surrounded by pretty good news. Perhaps you would be happier living in the south where you could actually have a basis for your complaints.

There is definitely a cohort of posters who is looking for bad news. It’s almost as if they WANT the US and Maryland to do poorly. Makes zero sense, especially when Maryland has done a great job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Italy is doing so well now because they had the highest death rate per capita in the world from covid. Not sure why you would be pointing to them as an exemplar unless you want us to unleash the virus on all the nursing homes or something similar.

Nope. There are other countries with similar stats to Italy who are also doing well, who never had Italy's high death rates.

These are the stats we need to have NOW to be able to reopen.

We need to be:

1) testing a LOT of people.
2) have a 2% positivity rate
3) have 20 new cases per million per day or less

Italy is doing it. Other countries that didn't have Italy's experience are doing it.

Some of our states are doing it.

Maryland is NOT doing it.

20 new cases per million? I believe you mean 100,000.

We are testing a lot of people in MD, that isn’t an issue. We also have extremely quick turnaround time for test results, among the most rapid of all the states.

Everyone wants to see the stats continue to get better, as they have been doing for the past two months.

Some people just can’t stop looking for bad news when surrounded by pretty good news. Perhaps you would be happier living in the south where you could actually have a basis for your complaints.

NP here, but nope -- 20 new cases per million should be the target. See the map here to see all the countries in Europe that have hit this target: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/new-covid-cases-per-million

Did you look at the graphic yourself. It says the main reason these countries have low numbers is limited testing. How did you miss that?

No, it says "The number of confirmed cases is lower than the number of total cases. The main reason for this is limited testing." Obviously not every case is confirmed by testing, but it doesn't say that the differences between Europe and the US are based on limited testing.

You can also look here to see the tests by population. Hard to fully account for the difference in cases based just on testing differences: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Italy is doing so well now because they had the highest death rate per capita in the world from covid. Not sure why you would be pointing to them as an exemplar unless you want us to unleash the virus on all the nursing homes or something similar.

Nope. There are other countries with similar stats to Italy who are also doing well, who never had Italy's high death rates.

These are the stats we need to have NOW to be able to reopen.

We need to be:

1) testing a LOT of people.
2) have a 2% positivity rate
3) have 20 new cases per million per day or less

Italy is doing it. Other countries that didn't have Italy's experience are doing it.

Some of our states are doing it.

Maryland is NOT doing it.

NY actually announced standards for reopening, positivity rate below 5 percent for initial reopening in person. We are there.

Wow, really?

Holy Suicide Squad!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

There is definitely a cohort of posters who is looking for bad news. It’s almost as if they WANT the US and Maryland to do poorly. Makes zero sense, especially when Maryland has done a great job.

Maryland has done a great job in comparison to other states in the US, but that's not saying much.

Maryland would do a better job if the governor would close the damn bars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Italy is doing so well now because they had the highest death rate per capita in the world from covid. Not sure why you would be pointing to them as an exemplar unless you want us to unleash the virus on all the nursing homes or something similar.

Nope. There are other countries with similar stats to Italy who are also doing well, who never had Italy's high death rates.

These are the stats we need to have NOW to be able to reopen.

We need to be:

1) testing a LOT of people.
2) have a 2% positivity rate
3) have 20 new cases per million per day or less

Italy is doing it. Other countries that didn't have Italy's experience are doing it.

Some of our states are doing it.

Maryland is NOT doing it.

20 new cases per million? I believe you mean 100,000.

We are testing a lot of people in MD, that isn’t an issue. We also have extremely quick turnaround time for test results, among the most rapid of all the states.

Everyone wants to see the stats continue to get better, as they have been doing for the past two months.

Some people just can’t stop looking for bad news when surrounded by pretty good news. Perhaps you would be happier living in the south where you could actually have a basis for your complaints.

NP here, but nope -- 20 new cases per million should be the target. See the map here to see all the countries in Europe that have hit this target: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/new-covid-cases-per-million

Did you look at the graphic yourself. It says the main reason these countries have low numbers is limited testing. How did you miss that?

Because she is choosing to pick out data that make the US look bad.

The number of positive tests means nothing. Really. More testing means more positives.

The important numbers are hospital bed/ICU utilization and deaths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Italy is doing so well now because they had the highest death rate per capita in the world from covid. Not sure why you would be pointing to them as an exemplar unless you want us to unleash the virus on all the nursing homes or something similar.

Nope. There are other countries with similar stats to Italy who are also doing well, who never had Italy's high death rates.

These are the stats we need to have NOW to be able to reopen.

We need to be:

1) testing a LOT of people.
2) have a 2% positivity rate
3) have 20 new cases per million per day or less

Italy is doing it. Other countries that didn't have Italy's experience are doing it.

Some of our states are doing it.

Maryland is NOT doing it.

20 new cases per million? I believe you mean 100,000.

We are testing a lot of people in MD, that isn’t an issue. We also have extremely quick turnaround time for test results, among the most rapid of all the states.

Everyone wants to see the stats continue to get better, as they have been doing for the past two months.

Some people just can’t stop looking for bad news when surrounded by pretty good news. Perhaps you would be happier living in the south where you could actually have a basis for your complaints.

I would dispute that, or if the average turnaround time is considered "quick" then other states are really in trouble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Because she is choosing to pick out data that make the US look bad.

The number of positive tests means nothing. Really. More testing means more positives.

The important numbers are hospital bed/ICU utilization and deaths.

More testing means more positives when there are people in the population who are positive.

If there weren't people in the population who are positive, you could test everybody every day and there wouldn't be more positives.