Gov Hogan announcement re schools this week?

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Italy is doing so well now because they had the highest death rate per capita in the world from covid. Not sure why you would be pointing to them as an exemplar unless you want us to unleash the virus on all the nursing homes or something similar.


Nope. There are other countries with similar stats to Italy who are also doing well, who never had Italy's high death rates.

These are the stats we need to have NOW to be able to reopen.

We need to be:

1) testing a LOT of people.
2) have a 2% positivity rate
3) have 20 new cases per million per day or less

Italy is doing it. Other countries that didn't have Italy's experience are doing it.

Some of our states are doing it.

Maryland is NOT doing it.


NY actually announced standards for reopening, positivity rate below 5 percent for initial reopening in person. We are there.


Wow, really?


Seems like NY is taking more of a balanced approach. Health and well-being are more than just the virus, and most of NY is doing pretty well right now anyway.
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Anonymous wrote:

Italy is doing so well now because they had the highest death rate per capita in the world from covid. Not sure why you would be pointing to them as an exemplar unless you want us to unleash the virus on all the nursing homes or something similar.


Nope. There are other countries with similar stats to Italy who are also doing well, who never had Italy's high death rates.

These are the stats we need to have NOW to be able to reopen.

We need to be:

1) testing a LOT of people.
2) have a 2% positivity rate
3) have 20 new cases per million per day or less

Italy is doing it. Other countries that didn't have Italy's experience are doing it.

Some of our states are doing it.

Maryland is NOT doing it.


NY actually announced standards for reopening, positivity rate below 5 percent for initial reopening in person. We are there.


Wow, really?


Seems like NY is taking more of a balanced approach. Health and well-being are more than just the virus, and most of NY is doing pretty well right now anyway.


What are you talking about? NYC is a war zone.
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Hopefully he will announce that school will be online, the end.
Anonymous
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What are you talking about? NYC is a war zone.


What are you talking about? Really? What on earth?
Anonymous
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There is definitely a cohort of posters who is looking for bad news. It’s almost as if they WANT the US and Maryland to do poorly. Makes zero sense, especially when Maryland has done a great job.


Maryland has done a great job in comparison to other states in the US, but that's not saying much.

Maryland would do a better job if the governor would close the damn bars.


What bars are open in Montgomery County?
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Because she is choosing to pick out data that make the US look bad.

The number of positive tests means nothing. Really. More testing means more positives.

The important numbers are hospital bed/ICU utilization and deaths.



More testing means more positives when there are people in the population who are positive.

If there weren't people in the population who are positive, you could test everybody every day and there wouldn't be more positives.


Yep.

And it really doesn’t matter how many people test positive. What matters is the number of people who test positive, and end up with life-threatening symptoms.
Anonymous
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What are you talking about? NYC is a war zone.


What are you talking about? Really? What on earth?


“Health and well being are more than the virus”
People are being gunned down in the streets. Including a one year old. Not health and well being in NYC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

There is definitely a cohort of posters who is looking for bad news. It’s almost as if they WANT the US and Maryland to do poorly. Makes zero sense, especially when Maryland has done a great job.


Maryland has done a great job in comparison to other states in the US, but that's not saying much.

Maryland would do a better job if the governor would close the damn bars.


What bars are open in Montgomery County?

The ones in Bethesda, for instance. There was an article in WoPo about young kids going out. There's even dancing indoors..
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

What are you talking about? NYC is a war zone.


What are you talking about? Really? What on earth?


“Health and well being are more than the virus”
People are being gunned down in the streets. Including a one year old. Not health and well being in NYC.


+1 NYC has gone from one crisis to another
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

What are you talking about? NYC is a war zone.


What are you talking about? Really? What on earth?


“Health and well being are more than the virus”
People are being gunned down in the streets. Including a one year old. Not health and well being in NYC.


The murder rate in New York City is still at historic lows, not to mention the total irrelevance of the murder rate to NYC's decisions about schools with respect to coronavirus.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

What are you talking about? NYC is a war zone.


What are you talking about? Really? What on earth?


“Health and well being are more than the virus”
People are being gunned down in the streets. Including a one year old. Not health and well being in NYC.


The murder rate in New York City is still at historic lows, not to mention the total irrelevance of the murder rate to NYC's decisions about schools with respect to coronavirus.


Yeah, okay...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Because she is choosing to pick out data that make the US look bad.

The number of positive tests means nothing. Really. More testing means more positives.

The important numbers are hospital bed/ICU utilization and deaths.



More testing means more positives when there are people in the population who are positive.

If there weren't people in the population who are positive, you could test everybody every day and there wouldn't be more positives.


Yep.

And it really doesn’t matter how many people test positive. What matters is the number of people who test positive, and end up with life-threatening symptoms.


Actually it absolutely does matter what percentage of people test positive.

The rate of positivity is an important indicator because it can provide insights into whether a community is conducting enough testing to find cases. If a community’s positivity is high, it suggests that that community may largely be testing the sickest patients and possibly missing milder or asymptomatic cases. A lower positivity may indicate that a community is including in its testing patients with milder or no symptoms. The WHO has said that in countries that have conducted extensive testing for COVID-19, should remain at 5% or lower for at least 14 days.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

What are you talking about? NYC is a war zone.


What are you talking about? Really? What on earth?


“Health and well being are more than the virus”
People are being gunned down in the streets. Including a one year old. Not health and well being in NYC.


The murder rate in New York City is still at historic lows, not to mention the total irrelevance of the murder rate to NYC's decisions about schools with respect to coronavirus.


NYC Homicides Soar 21 Percent in First 6 Months of 2020, Shootings Up 46 Percent
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

What are you talking about? NYC is a war zone.


What are you talking about? Really? What on earth?


“Health and well being are more than the virus”
People are being gunned down in the streets. Including a one year old. Not health and well being in NYC.


The murder rate in New York City is still at historic lows, not to mention the total irrelevance of the murder rate to NYC's decisions about schools with respect to coronavirus.


It matters if you are talking about well-being as a component of health.

NYC is headed for some major issues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

What are you talking about? NYC is a war zone.


What are you talking about? Really? What on earth?


“Health and well being are more than the virus”
People are being gunned down in the streets. Including a one year old. Not health and well being in NYC.


The murder rate in New York City is still at historic lows, not to mention the total irrelevance of the murder rate to NYC's decisions about schools with respect to coronavirus.


NYC Homicides Soar 21 Percent in First 6 Months of 2020, Shootings Up 46 Percent

The city surpassed 400 shootings in the first half of the year for the first time since 2016, with 528 by the end of last month; the 205 shootings in June were the highest for that month since 1996, the police said
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