The lawsuit against Royal Caribbean/toddler death

[Anonymous]

I would think that due to their professions, there was a certain instant grim realization what Grandpa was facing criminally and they chose to attack RC instead. Easier than confronting his negligence. And now they can’t back away.

[Anonymous]

Because there is such a disconnect in my mind about how a family that just lost their baby in such a horrific accident could even get out of bed let alone sit down with a lawyer and pursue this lawsuit, my mind wonders if there is some kind of psychological phenomenon at play. Meaning that if something happens that you have so much trouble processing that you grasp at any opportunity to figure out why in the mistaken belief it will make you feel better. And maybe they think that blaming RC instead of the Grandpa makes them feel better? As if it's a distraction from the truth of their baby being gone...

I've seen this in other incidents and I wonder if there are any psychologists that can explain this or at least explain it better.

[Anonymous]

I think that is true, 13:22.

It's easier to tell yourself that you are pursuing "justice" for Chloe by correcting the situation for other children (by suing RC...." if only there had been a sign!!"), rather than admit that your family will be torn apart because a family member caused your baby's death. Kind of hard to pass the Thanksgiving pie to someone responsible for your baby's death....better to blame RC and pretend that you were all victimized by RC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because there is such a disconnect in my mind about how a family that just lost their baby in such a horrific accident could even get out of bed let alone sit down with a lawyer and pursue this lawsuit, my mind wonders if there is some kind of psychological phenomenon at play. Meaning that if something happens that you have so much trouble processing that you grasp at any opportunity to figure out why in the mistaken belief it will make you feel better. And maybe they think that blaming RC instead of the Grandpa makes them feel better? As if it's a distraction from the truth of their baby being gone...

I've seen this in other incidents and I wonder if there are any psychologists that can explain this or at least explain it better.

You mean denial?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because there is such a disconnect in my mind about how a family that just lost their baby in such a horrific accident could even get out of bed let alone sit down with a lawyer and pursue this lawsuit, my mind wonders if there is some kind of psychological phenomenon at play. Meaning that if something happens that you have so much trouble processing that you grasp at any opportunity to figure out why in the mistaken belief it will make you feel better. And maybe they think that blaming RC instead of the Grandpa makes them feel better? As if it's a distraction from the truth of their baby being gone...

I've seen this in other incidents and I wonder if there are any psychologists that can explain this or at least explain it better.

If they are trying to figure out what happened, why would they not look at the video tape that actually shows what happened? This is the part that baffles me.

If they are so convinced that this is RC's fault, wouldn't they expect the video to establish RC's negligence? I think they aren't looking at it because they know that Grandpa's story doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From an abc news at ticle:


“ABC News reviewed surveillance video of the incident, which was discovery evidence prosecutors shared with defense attorneys this week.

In the video, which did not include audio, Chloe, wearing a white hat, her swim suit and swim shoes, runs across the pool area with her grandfather a few feet behind. walk over to the wall of windows where Anello appears to look over the railing, through the open window. Anello picks Chloe up and stands her up on the railing, and they appear to lean over together looking out over the port.Then he re-adjusts and sits Chloe on the railing, still facing the port. They lean over again and she disappears from the frame.”


I’m sorry but there is NO WAY he didn’t realize that the window was open. NO WAY.

Based on that description, it sounds like she fell out head first as he was leaning her over, into the open window. She threw her weight forward and he lost his grip . Also sounds like the statement of the Pueto Rican police (Annello said he held her out the window) is consistent with the video as described by ABC news.

Had they grieved and kept their lawyer on a short leash, RC would have paid them some sympathy award, they would have public sympathy for years, and they would move through their grief. Instead, their lawyer is far afield from the facts, and they look like gold diggers.

The mom is a prosecutor and the father is a cop. I think they know what they're doing and that it's not just their lawyer making them look like gold diggers. They are out for money.

I hadn’t heard what the parents do for a living but you’re correct, they obviously know what they’re doing. Disgusting behavior.

That's what THEIR LAWYER says. That's not on the video b/c the video doesn't have audio.

Same knucklehead lawyer that keeps insisting they were in a "children's play area".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because there is such a disconnect in my mind about how a family that just lost their baby in such a horrific accident could even get out of bed let alone sit down with a lawyer and pursue this lawsuit, my mind wonders if there is some kind of psychological phenomenon at play. Meaning that if something happens that you have so much trouble processing that you grasp at any opportunity to figure out why in the mistaken belief it will make you feel better. And maybe they think that blaming RC instead of the Grandpa makes them feel better? As if it's a distraction from the truth of their baby being gone...

I've seen this in other incidents and I wonder if there are any psychologists that can explain this or at least explain it better.

PP here...to further clarify, I mean something subconscious that happens that doesn't allow your brain to accept the truth. I understand subconscious denial of course, but this is so extreme.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because there is such a disconnect in my mind about how a family that just lost their baby in such a horrific accident could even get out of bed let alone sit down with a lawyer and pursue this lawsuit, my mind wonders if there is some kind of psychological phenomenon at play. Meaning that if something happens that you have so much trouble processing that you grasp at any opportunity to figure out why in the mistaken belief it will make you feel better. And maybe they think that blaming RC instead of the Grandpa makes them feel better? As if it's a distraction from the truth of their baby being gone...

I've seen this in other incidents and I wonder if there are any psychologists that can explain this or at least explain it better.

If they are trying to figure out what happened, why would they not look at the video tape that actually shows what happened? This is the part that baffles me.

If they are so convinced that this is RC's fault, wouldn't they expect the video to establish RC's negligence? I think they aren't looking at it because they know that Grandpa's story doesn't make sense.

Because the video will not support the narrative they've built up in their minds?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because there is such a disconnect in my mind about how a family that just lost their baby in such a horrific accident could even get out of bed let alone sit down with a lawyer and pursue this lawsuit, my mind wonders if there is some kind of psychological phenomenon at play. Meaning that if something happens that you have so much trouble processing that you grasp at any opportunity to figure out why in the mistaken belief it will make you feel better. And maybe they think that blaming RC instead of the Grandpa makes them feel better? As if it's a distraction from the truth of their baby being gone...

I've seen this in other incidents and I wonder if there are any psychologists that can explain this or at least explain it better.

You mean denial?

Their precious baby is laying in a morgue in a foreign country and the day after her death they are talking to a lawyer talking about pursuing a lawsuit against RC.

How does that even happen?

[Anonymous]

About 8-10 years ago, a similar accident occurred at the Pittsburgh Zoo. If I remember correct;y, a mother was balancing her young boy on a fence that overlooked some kind of wild dog exhibit. Mom drops the young boy and he is mauled by the dogs. She sues the zoo and WINS! She said the fence should have been higher.

I think these cases go yo court because the at fault adult can't live with their error. They want to blame someone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:About 8-10 years ago, a similar accident occurred at the Pittsburgh Zoo. If I remember correct;y, a mother was balancing her young boy on a fence that overlooked some kind of wild dog exhibit. Mom drops the young boy and he is mauled by the dogs. She sues the zoo and WINS! She said the fence should have been higher.

I think these cases go yo court because the at fault adult can't live with their error. They want to blame someone.

Ridiculous. You can't idiot proof the world. And idiots shouldn't get money for their idiotic actions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is already a long thread

Where is the long thread?

Toddler death on a cruise ship. So tragic. (July - 35 pages)
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/815213.page

Grandpa from cruise ship tragedy charged (October - 35 pages)
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/836677.page

Cruise Ship Lawsuit & Today Show (July - 17 pages)
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/817597.page

Get a grip

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About 8-10 years ago, a similar accident occurred at the Pittsburgh Zoo. If I remember correct;y, a mother was balancing her young boy on a fence that overlooked some kind of wild dog exhibit. Mom drops the young boy and he is mauled by the dogs. She sues the zoo and WINS! She said the fence should have been higher.

I think these cases go yo court because the at fault adult can't live with their error. They want to blame someone.

Ridiculous. You can't idiot proof the world. And idiots shouldn't get money for their idiotic actions.

She won because the zoo was aware that there was a problem with the netting that the kid bounced off of before landing in the pen: She shouldn't have placed her kid on the fence but everyone felt bad for her too... so she won.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if Grandpa has seen the video.

Why would he need to? He was there and knows what the video must show. I think he’s encouraging the parents to not look. He’s the mom’s stepfather so he’s probably terrified of losing the entire family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if Grandpa has seen the video.

Why would he need to? He was there and knows what the video must show. I think he’s encouraging the parents to not look. He’s the mom’s stepfather so he’s probably terrified of losing the entire family.

I think that maybe he needs a reality check. The way he describes it - I picked her up and she fell out because I did not realize that the window was open does not seem to jibe with what the video shows. It wasn't a split second error of judgement, he actually held Chloe at that open window for awhile before she tumbled out of it.