Cambridge tour vs Sussex tour

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Anonymous wrote:Kate is following the Queen's model of how to be royal, while Meghan is following Diana's. In my opinion, Kate is playing the smarter game.
Think about it--
Everyone admires the Queen, but how much does anyone really know about her? We know she likes corgis, horses, and. . . .? She has never talked about her likes, dislikes, complaints, etc. She deliberately masks her opinions and personality in public life. Have you ever heard her give a speech--even after 70+ years of speaking, she still reads in a flat schoolgirl voice. That mask of boring respectability allows her to have a private life since the impression is that there isn't much for the press to talk about. In a few years, when Kate's looks have faded, she'll cease to be the center of attention, and she and William will have completely settled down into a respectable uncontroversial public face, and a more-or-less normal private life with their children and a handful of discreet friends.

Harry and Megan, though, are more like Diana was and not hiding their emotions and passions. This makes them much more interesting to the press and public. It can be a valuable way of approaching the job, since it does bring more attention to their causes. However, it also means that they are in the spotlight and the lines between their personal lives and public lives get very blurred.

In an ideal world, the royal family could have public lives where they pursue and promote their causes and interests, and then have private lives that the press and public have no access to. But the reality is that they need to make a choice. And then not complain, since there is nothing more off-putting than someone who has every luxury in the world complaining about their lot in life--especially if they married into it.

The thing is that the Diana model by design is built around pain and controversy. I mean, imagine what if this emotional and vulnerable Diana had a happy marriage with a doting husband? What would there be to be vulnerable about? So to follow the Diana model, H&M would always have to either have or engineer a source of pain and controversy in their (let's admit it, very naturally free of pain!) life.

The QEII/Kate model, outdated though as it can be, centers on the presumption that any scandal/outburst/controversy is bad for the monarchy as it makes people question its whole existence, i.e. if these people are so messed up, why do we need them at all?? People call Kate lazy (with excellent reason) but it should be admitted that her life was and remains pretty free of any significant controversies or scandals - no drugs, no alcohol, no ridiculous relatives, no tears, no outbursts. She also doesn't seem to court publicity or want it.

[Anonymous]

As for Kate, don’t forget there’s no “poor me.” It’s refreshing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kate is following the Queen's model of how to be royal, while Meghan is following Diana's. In my opinion, Kate is playing the smarter game.
Think about it--
Everyone admires the Queen, but how much does anyone really know about her? We know she likes corgis, horses, and. . . .? She has never talked about her likes, dislikes, complaints, etc. She deliberately masks her opinions and personality in public life. Have you ever heard her give a speech--even after 70+ years of speaking, she still reads in a flat schoolgirl voice. That mask of boring respectability allows her to have a private life since the impression is that there isn't much for the press to talk about. In a few years, when Kate's looks have faded, she'll cease to be the center of attention, and she and William will have completely settled down into a respectable uncontroversial public face, and a more-or-less normal private life with their children and a handful of discreet friends.

Harry and Megan, though, are more like Diana was and not hiding their emotions and passions. This makes them much more interesting to the press and public. It can be a valuable way of approaching the job, since it does bring more attention to their causes. However, it also means that they are in the spotlight and the lines between their personal lives and public lives get very blurred.

In an ideal world, the royal family could have public lives where they pursue and promote their causes and interests, and then have private lives that the press and public have no access to. But the reality is that they need to make a choice. And then not complain, since there is nothing more off-putting than someone who has every luxury in the world complaining about their lot in life--especially if they married into it.

The thing is that the Diana model by design is built around pain and controversy. I mean, imagine what if this emotional and vulnerable Diana had a happy marriage with a doting husband? What would there be to be vulnerable about? So to follow the Diana model, H&M would always have to either have or engineer a source of pain and controversy in their (let's admit it, very naturally free of pain!) life.

The QEII/Kate model, outdated though as it can be, centers on the presumption that any scandal/outburst/controversy is bad for the monarchy as it makes people question its whole existence, i.e. if these people are so messed up, why do we need them at all?? People call Kate lazy (with excellent reason) but it should be admitted that her life was and remains pretty free of any significant controversies or scandals - no drugs, no alcohol, no ridiculous relatives, no tears, no outbursts. She also doesn't seem to court publicity or want it.

So true. Self-inflicted drama everywhere with Diana, Harry, and Meghan.

[Anonymous]

I respect the "never explain, never complain" motto of the monarchy.
Megan and Harry just come off as whiny brats.
Boo Hoo, no one asked me if I was ok.
Well, perhaps you have pushed away anyone who would actually care enough to ask? Where is your dad? Your sisters? Your mom? Your SIL who you made cry at Charlottes dress fitting, your BIL who you spread lies about a cheating scandal, your friends (who are actually just transactual aquaintences) the list goes on. Perhaps if you had actually wanted to become a member of the family and weren't a royal "B" to yours, people would be here to ask how they can help and if you are ok.
How is Megan just surviving? She pays no bills, has no health issues that we know of, jet sets all over the world when she pleases, just redid the country home to the tune of millions paid for by the Brittish people (who she disses in the interview). Wears coutour and bespoke clothing, attends movie premeirs, got months off before and after the birth. How the hell is this just surviving. She is living pretty much everyone's best life. Minus the friends/family that she has pusehd away and sold lies to the tabloids about.
If they wouldn't wage war against the media they could have all the privacy they want. But they don't want privacy, they WANT the spotlight. I don't know how it has been unfair? What part. The part about her millions spent on clothing? True. The part about her upstaging Eugenie's wedding by announcing her pregnancy? True.
The part about her belly cupping all over Austrailia when the stick could barely even be pink? True. The part about her be sketchy about the birth of ARchie? True.
The part about the weird as hell birth announcement? True.
They part about her million dollar baby shower in NYC? True
The part about her not letting an entire section to be seated at Wimbledon becuase she is so super special? True
The part about her making Kate cry at a dress fitting? True
The part about them lecturing the masses about global warming while jet setting around Europe to see friends? True
The part about her plagorizing the Vogue cover? True

I don't get what hasn't been fair?

I used to love Meghan but she has shown her true colors and lets be honest, it is greed.
I think she is prompting Harry to not take his meds because that dude is unstabnle as hell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I respect the "never explain, never complain" motto of the monarchy.
Megan and Harry just come off as whiny brats.
Boo Hoo, no one asked me if I was ok.
Well, perhaps you have pushed away anyone who would actually care enough to ask? Where is your dad? Your sisters? Your mom? Your SIL who you made cry at Charlottes dress fitting, your BIL who you spread lies about a cheating scandal, your friends (who are actually just transactual aquaintences) the list goes on. Perhaps if you had actually wanted to become a member of the family and weren't a royal "B" to yours, people would be here to ask how they can help and if you are ok.
How is Megan just surviving? She pays no bills, has no health issues that we know of, jet sets all over the world when she pleases, just redid the country home to the tune of millions paid for by the Brittish people (who she disses in the interview). Wears coutour and bespoke clothing, attends movie premeirs, got months off before and after the birth. How the hell is this just surviving. She is living pretty much everyone's best life. Minus the friends/family that she has pusehd away and sold lies to the tabloids about.
If they wouldn't wage war against the media they could have all the privacy they want. But they don't want privacy, they WANT the spotlight. I don't know how it has been unfair? What part. The part about her millions spent on clothing? True. The part about her upstaging Eugenie's wedding by announcing her pregnancy? True.
The part about her belly cupping all over Austrailia when the stick could barely even be pink? True. The part about her be sketchy about the birth of ARchie? True.
The part about the weird as hell birth announcement? True.
They part about her million dollar baby shower in NYC? True
The part about her not letting an entire section to be seated at Wimbledon becuase she is so super special? True
The part about her making Kate cry at a dress fitting? True
The part about them lecturing the masses about global warming while jet setting around Europe to see friends? True
The part about her plagorizing the Vogue cover? True

I don't get what hasn't been fair?

I used to love Meghan but she has shown her true colors and lets be honest, it is greed.
I think she is prompting Harry to not take his meds because that dude is unstabnle as hell.

I agree Meghan has made some missteps, but what horrible thing happened in your life to keep this level of detail in your brain about someone you don't even know and be so angry about it? You should really deal with your own mental issues.

[Anonymous]

This shit all happened in the last year? How the hell can anyone who follow the royal family NOT remember?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously. Shut up H and M. If life is so hard for you, then stop trying to garner as much attention as possible all the time. Just go live quietly in the country and show up for royal weddings. Geez.

This. I can’t believe she was complaining on tv about how hard it is for her, being so vulnerable and no one asking how she’s feeling.

Cry my a river,

Brits will have a field day with that! Such an American navel gazing attitude. Sooooo California.

Kate OTOH is all “keep calm and carry on.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I respect the "never explain, never complain" motto of the monarchy.
Megan and Harry just come off as whiny brats.
Boo Hoo, no one asked me if I was ok.
Well, perhaps you have pushed away anyone who would actually care enough to ask? Where is your dad? Your sisters? Your mom? Your SIL who you made cry at Charlottes dress fitting, your BIL who you spread lies about a cheating scandal, your friends (who are actually just transactual aquaintences) the list goes on. Perhaps if you had actually wanted to become a member of the family and weren't a royal "B" to yours, people would be here to ask how they can help and if you are ok.
How is Megan just surviving? She pays no bills, has no health issues that we know of, jet sets all over the world when she pleases, just redid the country home to the tune of millions paid for by the Brittish people (who she disses in the interview). Wears coutour and bespoke clothing, attends movie premeirs, got months off before and after the birth. How the hell is this just surviving. She is living pretty much everyone's best life. Minus the friends/family that she has pusehd away and sold lies to the tabloids about.
If they wouldn't wage war against the media they could have all the privacy they want. But they don't want privacy, they WANT the spotlight. I don't know how it has been unfair? What part. The part about her millions spent on clothing? True. The part about her upstaging Eugenie's wedding by announcing her pregnancy? True.
The part about her belly cupping all over Austrailia when the stick could barely even be pink? True. The part about her be sketchy about the birth of ARchie? True.
The part about the weird as hell birth announcement? True.
They part about her million dollar baby shower in NYC? True
The part about her not letting an entire section to be seated at Wimbledon becuase she is so super special? True
The part about her making Kate cry at a dress fitting? True
The part about them lecturing the masses about global warming while jet setting around Europe to see friends? True
The part about her plagorizing the Vogue cover? True

I don't get what hasn't been fair?

I used to love Meghan but she has shown her true colors and lets be honest, it is greed.
I think she is prompting Harry to not take his meds because that dude is unstabnle as hell.

How odd that someone who moved to a different country less than a year ago would not have a big support network. I’ve simply never heard of new moms feeling isolated! Groundbreaking observations on your part!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kate is following the Queen's model of how to be royal, while Meghan is following Diana's. In my opinion, Kate is playing the smarter game.
Think about it--
Everyone admires the Queen, but how much does anyone really know about her? We know she likes corgis, horses, and. . . .? She has never talked about her likes, dislikes, complaints, etc. She deliberately masks her opinions and personality in public life. Have you ever heard her give a speech--even after 70+ years of speaking, she still reads in a flat schoolgirl voice. That mask of boring respectability allows her to have a private life since the impression is that there isn't much for the press to talk about. In a few years, when Kate's looks have faded, she'll cease to be the center of attention, and she and William will have completely settled down into a respectable uncontroversial public face, and a more-or-less normal private life with their children and a handful of discreet friends.

Harry and Megan, though, are more like Diana was and not hiding their emotions and passions. This makes them much more interesting to the press and public. It can be a valuable way of approaching the job, since it does bring more attention to their causes. However, it also means that they are in the spotlight and the lines between their personal lives and public lives get very blurred.

In an ideal world, the royal family could have public lives where they pursue and promote their causes and interests, and then have private lives that the press and public have no access to. But the reality is that they need to make a choice. And then not complain, since there is nothing more off-putting than someone who has every luxury in the world complaining about their lot in life--especially if they married into it.

The thing is that the Diana model by design is built around pain and controversy. I mean, imagine what if this emotional and vulnerable Diana had a happy marriage with a doting husband? What would there be to be vulnerable about? So to follow the Diana model, H&M would always have to either have or engineer a source of pain and controversy in their (let's admit it, very naturally free of pain!) life.

The QEII/Kate model, outdated though as it can be, centers on the presumption that any scandal/outburst/controversy is bad for the monarchy as it makes people question its whole existence, i.e. if these people are so messed up, why do we need them at all?? People call Kate lazy (with excellent reason) but it should be admitted that her life was and remains pretty free of any significant controversies or scandals - no drugs, no alcohol, no ridiculous relatives, no tears, no outbursts. She also doesn't seem to court publicity or want it.

This is really well said and an interesting way of thinking about the Diana "model"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I respect the "never explain, never complain" motto of the monarchy.
Megan and Harry just come off as whiny brats.
Boo Hoo, no one asked me if I was ok.
Well, perhaps you have pushed away anyone who would actually care enough to ask? Where is your dad? Your sisters? Your mom? Your SIL who you made cry at Charlottes dress fitting, your BIL who you spread lies about a cheating scandal, your friends (who are actually just transactual aquaintences) the list goes on. Perhaps if you had actually wanted to become a member of the family and weren't a royal "B" to yours, people would be here to ask how they can help and if you are ok.
How is Megan just surviving? She pays no bills, has no health issues that we know of, jet sets all over the world when she pleases, just redid the country home to the tune of millions paid for by the Brittish people (who she disses in the interview). Wears coutour and bespoke clothing, attends movie premeirs, got months off before and after the birth. How the hell is this just surviving. She is living pretty much everyone's best life. Minus the friends/family that she has pusehd away and sold lies to the tabloids about.
If they wouldn't wage war against the media they could have all the privacy they want. But they don't want privacy, they WANT the spotlight. I don't know how it has been unfair? What part. The part about her millions spent on clothing? True. The part about her upstaging Eugenie's wedding by announcing her pregnancy? True.
The part about her belly cupping all over Austrailia when the stick could barely even be pink? True. The part about her be sketchy about the birth of ARchie? True.
The part about the weird as hell birth announcement? True.
They part about her million dollar baby shower in NYC? True
The part about her not letting an entire section to be seated at Wimbledon becuase she is so super special? True
The part about her making Kate cry at a dress fitting? True
The part about them lecturing the masses about global warming while jet setting around Europe to see friends? True
The part about her plagorizing the Vogue cover? True

I don't get what hasn't been fair?

I used to love Meghan but she has shown her true colors and lets be honest, it is greed.
I think she is prompting Harry to not take his meds because that dude is unstabnle as hell.

PP you seem unstable and most of what you posted is unproven scandal sheet drivel. Where is the PROOF for any of what you posted? Oh that's right there isn't any. All of this stuff is tabloid fodder which is exactly why they sued.

Well, perhaps you have pushed away anyone who would actually care enough to ask?
Where is your dad? Are you really going there? Her father that has been trying to use her for his own benefit?
Your sisters? Seriously? You mean the sisters that don't seem to care about any of their other siblings but are so heartbroken to not be a part of MM's life?
Your mom? When did she push away her mother? Her mother has her own life, half way across the world. The British public would lose their mind if H and M were to bring Doria over and set her up in the same manner that W and K setup her parents.
Your SIL who you made cry at Charlottes dress fitting, How do you know that she "pushed Kate away and made her cry" oh that's right, because it was reported in a tabloid without absolutely no supporting facts.
your BIL who you spread lies about a cheating scandal, Again, where is the proof that she planted the story about the cheating? There isn't any because it was likely Rose herself and it probably wasn't a lie. Also, more tabloid crap.
your friends (who are actually just transactual aquaintences) the list goes on. I don't even know what you're talking about here, once again it has been mentioned that her friends are not in the UK. What would happen if she started to jet around the world to see her friends. I'm going to let you imagine the fallout.
Perhaps if you had actually wanted to become a member of the family and weren't a royal "B" to yours, people would be here to ask how they can help and if you are ok. Other than her mother her father's side of the family has been truly horrid. It's a ok for normal people to distance themselves from toxic relatives but MM should suck it up and stay engaged.

What part. The part about her millions spent on clothing? True. So what, she had to go from what you folks like to call a "d list" actress to a royal. That's going to cost, and now she's starting to rewear all of the outfits that she used to build her wardrobe.
The part about her upstaging Eugenie's wedding by announcing her pregnancy? True. Do you really think that MM chose the time to announce that? Really? You don't think the Queen had anything to do with when it was revealed? Ok then.
The part about her belly cupping all over Austrailia when the stick could barely even be pink? True. SO WHAT. Log in to FB or Instagram or any other side. 90% of pregnant women are clutching their bellies.
The part about her be sketchy about the birth of ARchie? True. What? Because she didn't feel like she had to reveal all the details to the public? Total sketchiness there
The part about the weird as hell birth announcement? True. Again what? What are you even going on about.
They part about her million dollar baby shower in NYC? True Who paid for it? Was it you? Was it tax payers? Because she can have a shower if she wants. This is stupid.
The part about her not letting an entire section to be seated at Wimbledon becuase she is so super special? True Royalty is routinely blocked off in their own sections, but continue with your idiocy?
The part about her making Kate cry at a dress fitting? True Where's the proof? Please don't point me to an "anonymous" tabloid article. Where is the source that gives specific names of who saw this happen.
The part about them lecturing the masses about global warming while jet setting around Europe to see friends? True So, how would you like members of the royal family that require very specific security needs to travel? I know! They could fly commercially and cause an airline to have to decide to fly two empty jets in order to accommodate them and ensure their security! Great idea!
The part about her plagorizing the Vogue cover? True False, the Vogue cover template layout has been utilized in countless spreads. Show me a way to showcase that many people without using a similar arrangement. Additionally, MM was a guess editor, she had input and decision making power but she isn't the be all and end all at Vogue. She didn't make any decisions on that in a vacuum. But certainly, let's put all the blame for yet another British tabloid fueled story on her.

The fact that you "used to love MM" is obviously a lie. No one who had any sort of liking for her could have come up with this. I will never understand why people feel the need to lie and preface their posts with "I used to love her but...". Just spout your dislike and move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I respect the "never explain, never complain" motto of the monarchy.
Megan and Harry just come off as whiny brats.
Boo Hoo, no one asked me if I was ok.
Well, perhaps you have pushed away anyone who would actually care enough to ask? Where is your dad? Your sisters? Your mom? Your SIL who you made cry at Charlottes dress fitting, your BIL who you spread lies about a cheating scandal, your friends (who are actually just transactual aquaintences) the list goes on. Perhaps if you had actually wanted to become a member of the family and weren't a royal "B" to yours, people would be here to ask how they can help and if you are ok.
How is Megan just surviving? She pays no bills, has no health issues that we know of, jet sets all over the world when she pleases, just redid the country home to the tune of millions paid for by the Brittish people (who she disses in the interview). Wears coutour and bespoke clothing, attends movie premeirs, got months off before and after the birth. How the hell is this just surviving. She is living pretty much everyone's best life. Minus the friends/family that she has pusehd away and sold lies to the tabloids about.
If they wouldn't wage war against the media they could have all the privacy they want. But they don't want privacy, they WANT the spotlight. I don't know how it has been unfair? What part. The part about her millions spent on clothing? True. The part about her upstaging Eugenie's wedding by announcing her pregnancy? True.
The part about her belly cupping all over Austrailia when the stick could barely even be pink? True. The part about her be sketchy about the birth of ARchie? True.
The part about the weird as hell birth announcement? True.
They part about her million dollar baby shower in NYC? True
The part about her not letting an entire section to be seated at Wimbledon becuase she is so super special? True
The part about her making Kate cry at a dress fitting? True
The part about them lecturing the masses about global warming while jet setting around Europe to see friends? True
The part about her plagorizing the Vogue cover? True

I don't get what hasn't been fair?

I used to love Meghan but she has shown her true colors and lets be honest, it is greed.
I think she is prompting Harry to not take his meds because that dude is unstabnle as hell.

I agree Meghan has made some missteps, but what horrible thing happened in your life to keep this level of detail in your brain about someone you don't even know and be so angry about it? You should really deal with your own mental issues.

DP but save the sanctimony - PP doesn't seem angry - she just seems like shes asking legit questions

[Anonymous]

I missed when she made Kate cry at a dress fitting. What’s this about?

[Anonymous]

Harry just seemed so much happier before Meghan - I mean obviously no one knows what is going on behind the scenes but he just seemed, I don't know, chill and he was always laughing with Will and Kate... what happened???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harry just seemed so much happier before Meghan - I mean obviously no one knows what is going on behind the scenes but he just seemed, I don't know, chill and he was always laughing with Will and Kate... what happened???

Lol

[Anonymous]

Shrugs.

Agree with the earlier post about Kate/Will having the better relationship with the media. Kate is utterly impeccable in this regard and we know next to nothing about her, which means she has a private world she successfully manages away from the public limelight. And agree it's because of how she behaves in public.

Can't have much sympathy for Meghan. Too much drama. Too much whining. Wanting all the benefits of glamour and media spotlight and jet setting and hollywood A-listers, and then turning around and complaining about not having privacy. Err.... you can't have it both ways.

I've a feeling both Harry and Meghan are narcissistic to a degree. They simply don't see how they're coming across as entitled and spoiled in many ways.