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Anonymous wrote:No, I did not know he knew any German. His father is , so that makes sense. But anyone who believes MM had any influence on Morocco is a fool.

His father is Greek. His father's sisters married German Nazis.

Philip isn’t ethnically Greek. His family were basically carpetbaggers.

This. His entire family isn't ethnically Greek at all. IIRC, Greece needed a King and somehow they landed on Philip's family. He claims to be Danish but there are a lot of nazis in that family. The BRF made a conscious effort to downplay their German heritage after WWI and WWII. Look at the BRF lineage - a lot of German. Even British King Edward VIII was a full-blown nazi sympathizer. QEII's father was complicit in England's handing over British citizen Jews to the nazis at the onset of WWII to try to appease the nazis. We didn't hear him protest this even though he was king, did we. I'm not a fan of MM, but I don't understand the posters who think Harry could have done better. He's a messed up person who comes from a very messed up family. MM is in no way tarnishing that family any worse than other members did just by being a self-absorbed jackass. Abolish the monarchy.

You'd better back up the claim about QEII's father.....

You want me to find articles that don't exist? George VI didn't protest England handing over Jews from British Isles to the nazis. There's no proven documentation from that period (not revisionist history years later) that he protested this because he didn't. I have Jewish ancestors who were British subjects who fled England in fear of being handed over to the nazis when England was trying to appease Hitler. The Brits were hoping they could compromise by allowing "only" their Jewish citizens to be slaughtered and only created this false narrative about being against Hitler afterwards when it was clear that wouldn't work. The BRF and their cousins the Russian monarchy had been known anti semites for a long time. Lots of nazis in the BRF family tree. I'm not a big fan of MM but you can't tell me she's done ANYTHING that comes even close to being as heinous as the family she married into. The BRF is trying to revamp their image now that times have changed to be more SJW but it's time for them to go.

Um. I'm sorry to point this out, but you're making up a bunch of things and pretending they're true and claiming that no articles or proven documentation exist (why not?). If anything you said was true, it would be MAJOR news and scandal. What crackpot theorist have you been reading?

DP. The British appeasement of Hilter (despise his invasion of Spain and rounding up the Jews in internment camps) is a true story. George VI's actions are in direct contrast to his contemporary Christian X of Denmark where 90% of Jews settled there lived.

https://www.history.com/news/wwii-danish-jews-survival-holocaust

Meanwhile the official policy of Britain was to work with the Nazis, that is until they started bombing the UK.

The Prime Minister of Britain Neville Chamberlain meeting with Adolf Hilter (he served as George VI's 2nd PM).

Yes. Neville Chamberlain wanted to avoid another major war crippling Europe. So he met with Hitler as one leader to another prior to WWII. His appeasement was a mistake, even if guided by good intentions. But so what?

Nothing you say proves a single thing about your allegations. Not one. You clearly know nothing about the history leading up to WWII, or even the war itself or all the issues surrounding it. Your claims British Jews were killed because the government sacrificed them to the Nazis is ridiculous. Drawing the royal family into this Nazi crackpot conspiracy scandal of yours only tells any sane person one thing, you are not sane.

You might as well claim that FDR was in cahoots with Nazis for refusing to let the infamous ship of Jewish refugees dock in the US. In both British and American cases it was a sad mistake, but people did not have the hindsight to know what was to happen.

Please explain away this as well:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/prince-charles-blames-jews-middle-east-turmoil-1986-letter-a8050586.html

And this please. I could excuse the children, but that's the Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother.

Wait- so 85 years ago these people were photographed on their lawn giving the nazi salute? Well that proves they were all nazis. Never mind it was 1933, the year Hitler became chancellor -before they were at war. The queen mothers brother in law (who she famously hated) was showing them the salute and it looks like she humored him. Stupid snap and certainly no commentary on their allegiances. The queen Got her hands dirty as a mechanic for the military during WW2 and the queen mum was a nurse during ww1.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I did not know he knew any German. His father is , so that makes sense. But anyone who believes MM had any influence on Morocco is a fool.

His father is Greek. His father's sisters married German Nazis.

Philip isn’t ethnically Greek. His family were basically carpetbaggers.

This. His entire family isn't ethnically Greek at all. IIRC, Greece needed a King and somehow they landed on Philip's family. He claims to be Danish but there are a lot of nazis in that family. The BRF made a conscious effort to downplay their German heritage after WWI and WWII. Look at the BRF lineage - a lot of German. Even British King Edward VIII was a full-blown nazi sympathizer. QEII's father was complicit in England's handing over British citizen Jews to the nazis at the onset of WWII to try to appease the nazis. We didn't hear him protest this even though he was king, did we. I'm not a fan of MM, but I don't understand the posters who think Harry could have done better. He's a messed up person who comes from a very messed up family. MM is in no way tarnishing that family any worse than other members did just by being a self-absorbed jackass. Abolish the monarchy.

You'd better back up the claim about QEII's father.....

You want me to find articles that don't exist? George VI didn't protest England handing over Jews from British Isles to the nazis. There's no proven documentation from that period (not revisionist history years later) that he protested this because he didn't. I have Jewish ancestors who were British subjects who fled England in fear of being handed over to the nazis when England was trying to appease Hitler. The Brits were hoping they could compromise by allowing "only" their Jewish citizens to be slaughtered and only created this false narrative about being against Hitler afterwards when it was clear that wouldn't work. The BRF and their cousins the Russian monarchy had been known anti semites for a long time. Lots of nazis in the BRF family tree. I'm not a big fan of MM but you can't tell me she's done ANYTHING that comes even close to being as heinous as the family she married into. The BRF is trying to revamp their image now that times have changed to be more SJW but it's time for them to go.

Um. I'm sorry to point this out, but you're making up a bunch of things and pretending they're true and claiming that no articles or proven documentation exist (why not?). If anything you said was true, it would be MAJOR news and scandal. What crackpot theorist have you been reading?

DP. The British appeasement of Hilter (despise his invasion of Spain and rounding up the Jews in internment camps) is a true story. George VI's actions are in direct contrast to his contemporary Christian X of Denmark where 90% of Jews settled there lived.

https://www.history.com/news/wwii-danish-jews-survival-holocaust

Meanwhile the official policy of Britain was to work with the Nazis, that is until they started bombing the UK.

The Prime Minister of Britain Neville Chamberlain meeting with Adolf Hilter (he served as George VI's 2nd PM).

Yes. Neville Chamberlain wanted to avoid another major war crippling Europe. So he met with Hitler as one leader to another prior to WWII. His appeasement was a mistake, even if guided by good intentions. But so what?

Nothing you say proves a single thing about your allegations. Not one. You clearly know nothing about the history leading up to WWII, or even the war itself or all the issues surrounding it. Your claims British Jews were killed because the government sacrificed them to the Nazis is ridiculous. Drawing the royal family into this Nazi crackpot conspiracy scandal of yours only tells any sane person one thing, you are not sane.

You might as well claim that FDR was in cahoots with Nazis for refusing to let the infamous ship of Jewish refugees dock in the US. In both British and American cases it was a sad mistake, but people did not have the hindsight to know what was to happen.

Please explain away this as well:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/prince-charles-blames-jews-middle-east-turmoil-1986-letter-a8050586.html

And this please. I could excuse the children, but that's the Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother.

Wait- so 85 years ago these people were photographed on their lawn giving the nazi salute? Well that proves they were all nazis. Never mind it was 1933, the year Hitler became chancellor -before they were at war. The queen mothers brother in law (who she famously hated) was showing them the salute and it looks like she humored him. Stupid snap and certainly no commentary on their allegiances. The queen Got her hands dirty as a mechanic for the military during WW2 and the queen mum was a nurse during ww1.

You do realize you can be an antisemite without being a literal nazi right?

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As a British Jew who is fairly indifferent to the monarchy, I feel compelled to comment to say that the allegations about British Jews being handed over to the Nazis by King George are utter garbage. I’m also astonished at how invested some of you feel about a country and its symbolic leaders thousands of miles away.

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Anonymous wrote:As a British Jew who is fairly indifferent to the monarchy, I feel compelled to comment to say that the allegations about British Jews being handed over to the Nazis by King George are utter garbage. I’m also astonished at how invested some of you feel about a country and its symbolic leaders thousands of miles away.

Some of us are from countries that are part of the Commonwealth, that’s why we are invested. Get out of your bubble.

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Anonymous wrote:As a British Jew who is fairly indifferent to the monarchy, I feel compelled to comment to say that the allegations about British Jews being handed over to the Nazis by King George are utter garbage. I’m also astonished at how invested some of you feel about a country and its symbolic leaders thousands of miles away.

As someone who comes from a former colony of the British Empire, yeah, I am invested. My grandparents generation was the last one in centuries of rule that was treated like crap. It’s not that far from my reach in terms of impact.

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Anonymous wrote:As a British Jew who is fairly indifferent to the monarchy, I feel compelled to comment to say that the allegations about British Jews being handed over to the Nazis by King George are utter garbage. I’m also astonished at how invested some of you feel about a country and its symbolic leaders thousands of miles away.

As someone who comes from a former colony of the British Empire, yeah, I am invested. My grandparents generation was the last one in centuries of rule that was treated like crap. It’s not that far from my reach in terms of impact.

For some, they're still be impacted by being treated like crap. Did you see how the Brits treated the Windrush generation under May?

Senior citizens who immigrated healthy in the 1940s-1960s to help rebuild that country from scratch after all the bombings. Now the UK is trying to kick them out even though they came legally from Commonwealth countries!

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Anonymous wrote:As a British Jew who is fairly indifferent to the monarchy, I feel compelled to comment to say that the allegations about British Jews being handed over to the Nazis by King George are utter garbage. I’m also astonished at how invested some of you feel about a country and its symbolic leaders thousands of miles away.

As someone who comes from a former colony of the British Empire, yeah, I am invested. My grandparents generation was the last one in centuries of rule that was treated like crap. It’s not that far from my reach in terms of impact.

For some, they're still be impacted by being treated like crap. Did you see how the Brits treated the Windrush generation under May?

Senior citizens who immigrated healthy in the 1940s-1960s to help rebuild that country from scratch after all the bombings. Now the UK is trying to kick them out even though they came legally from Commonwealth countries!

Legally is not the word to use. Therein lies the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:As a British Jew who is fairly indifferent to the monarchy, I feel compelled to comment to say that the allegations about British Jews being handed over to the Nazis by King George are utter garbage. I’m also astonished at how invested some of you feel about a country and its symbolic leaders thousands of miles away.

As someone who comes from a former colony of the British Empire, yeah, I am invested. My grandparents generation was the last one in centuries of rule that was treated like crap. It’s not that far from my reach in terms of impact.

For some, they're still be impacted by being treated like crap. Did you see how the Brits treated the Windrush generation under May?

Senior citizens who immigrated healthy in the 1940s-1960s to help rebuild that country from scratch after all the bombings. Now the UK is trying to kick them out even though they came legally from Commonwealth countries!

Legally is not the word to use. Therein lies the problem.

The Windrush came to Britain in the early 20th century when all they needed was a stamp on their papers when they exited the port. They didn't need a British passport or Birth certificate because their Caribbean passports established them as Commonwealth citizens with the right to work. Britain called THEM to come rebuild their burned out capital, work in their factories, and clear the rubble since so many British men were dead.

Now 70 years later the British PM and Home Office wants to clear them out just as they're coming into their pensions and state benefits?

F*ck out of here.

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Anonymous wrote:As a British Jew who is fairly indifferent to the monarchy, I feel compelled to comment to say that the allegations about British Jews being handed over to the Nazis by King George are utter garbage. I’m also astonished at how invested some of you feel about a country and its symbolic leaders thousands of miles away.

As someone who comes from a former colony of the British Empire, yeah, I am invested. My grandparents generation was the last one in centuries of rule that was treated like crap. It’s not that far from my reach in terms of impact.

For some, they're still be impacted by being treated like crap. Did you see how the Brits treated the Windrush generation under May?

Senior citizens who immigrated healthy in the 1940s-1960s to help rebuild that country from scratch after all the bombings. Now the UK is trying to kick them out even though they came legally from Commonwealth countries!

Legally is not the word to use. Therein lies the problem.

The Windrush came to Britain in the early 20th century when all they needed was a stamp on their papers when they exited the port. They didn't need a British passport or Birth certificate because their Caribbean passports established them as Commonwealth citizens with the right to work. Britain called THEM to come rebuild their burned out capital, work in their factories, and clear the rubble since so many British men were dead.

Now 70 years later the British PM and Home Office wants to clear them out just as they're coming into their pensions and state benefits?

F*ck out of here.

Look, the Windrush scandal was awful. But honestly what has this got to do with the Cambridges and Sussexes? Sometimes I come onto threads and I'm shocked by how quickly it turns into bashing the UK for its entire history. Yes, there are terrible parts of the British past. There are also terrible parts of the history of most countries, including the one I now live in.

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Anonymous wrote:As a British Jew who is fairly indifferent to the monarchy, I feel compelled to comment to say that the allegations about British Jews being handed over to the Nazis by King George are utter garbage. I’m also astonished at how invested some of you feel about a country and its symbolic leaders thousands of miles away.

Some of us are from countries that are part of the Commonwealth, that’s why we are invested. Get out of your bubble.

OK, my deepest apologies to you. I'd be surprised if everyone commenting on this thread had that kind of connection, though. I don't know what bubble you think I'm in, but I will try hard to keep out of it.