If your family are trumpsters

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of Trump voters in my family. Nicest people in the world. Can’t wait to have them visit me next month.

This is privilege

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of Trump voters in my family. Nicest people in the world. Can’t wait to have them visit me next month.

This is privilege

You mean common sense at lack of sanctimony?

[Anonymous]

We have cut out the worst offenders.

Keep events with remaining Trump nuts to the very bare minimum.

Life is much, much better without all of that hate in our lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would stop seeing them. I don't have any interest in maintaining relationships with people I find immoral, or in facilitating their relationships with my children. I stopped having a relationship with a grandparent over politics and I have no regrets.

Politics over family. Very sad, really. You're giving politics the power.

Morals over family. When you have kids, you have to think about who you expose them to. I don't want my kids around toxic or racist people who don't think brown people matter.

If they're cool with fam separation at the border, I am cool with fam separation right here: They will not see me or my kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would stop seeing them. I don't have any interest in maintaining relationships with people I find immoral, or in facilitating their relationships with my children. I stopped having a relationship with a grandparent over politics and I have no regrets.

Politics over family. Very sad, really. You're giving politics the power.

Morals over family. When you have kids, you have to think about who you expose them to. I don't want my kids around toxic or racist people who don't think brown people matter.

If they're cool with fam separation at the border, I am cool with fam separation right here: They will not see me or my kids.

PP here. Just to clarify, no one in my family agrees with what's occurred at the border with children and their parents; and no one in my family is racist. If people are actively verbalizing those kinds of views in front of children, I'd definitely limit/end the exposure. I'm referring to family gatherings where PPs stated that some of those attending were Trump supporters. I wouldn't break up a family over how someone voted. I'll add that we don't talk politics at holiday gatherings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would stop seeing them. I don't have any interest in maintaining relationships with people I find immoral, or in facilitating their relationships with my children. I stopped having a relationship with a grandparent over politics and I have no regrets.

Politics over family. Very sad, really. You're giving politics the power.

Morals over family. When you have kids, you have to think about who you expose them to. I don't want my kids around toxic or racist people who don't think brown people matter.

If they're cool with fam separation at the border, I am cool with fam separation right here: They will not see me or my kids.

PP here. Just to clarify, no one in my family agrees with what's occurred at the border with children and their parents; and no one in my family is racist. If people are actively verbalizing those kinds of views in front of children, I'd definitely limit/end the exposure. I'm referring to family gatherings where PPs stated that some of those attending were Trump supporters. I wouldn't break up a family over how someone voted. I'll add that we don't talk politics at holiday gatherings.

I mean I’m sure some nazis were just wonderful. That doesn’t mean you socialize with them.

[Anonymous]

Impossible. Yet, I thought i would get helpful feedback and I did.

[Anonymous]

I would not go. This family separation is the last straw for me. I cannot enjoy being around someone who is not outraged about it. And I don't want to spend my vacation feeling stressed, sad, angry, etc that my family members are not good people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would stop seeing them. I don't have any interest in maintaining relationships with people I find immoral, or in facilitating their relationships with my children. I stopped having a relationship with a grandparent over politics and I have no regrets.

Politics over family. Very sad, really. You're giving politics the power.

Why should I continue to spend time with people whose morals I find abhorrent? It's very clear that we don't share the same values. That matters to me.

[Anonymous]

My Trumpster relatives wouldn’t tolerate any difference of opinion, so immediately after the election they cut off every single family member who wasn’t also a Trumpster. It was unfortunate, but honestly, family gatherings have been so much more fun and relaxed now that they’re gone. They were the ones who kept dragging politics into everything while the rest of us were content to leave it alone, and now we don’t have to deal with that anymore.

[Anonymous]

“I think one of the downsides of diversity has been the death of open inquiry, academic values and free debate. I think diversity has produced orthodoxy, and that’s been very detrimental to the academy.”

[Anonymous]

Nope. No desire to spend my vacation (or any time at all) with racist, immoral, idiotic people, which describes anyone who voted for Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know - it's so hard. In my case it's my MIL and FIL...we've been fighting for years (since they started insisting that Obama is Muslim and born in Kenya and joked that people crossing the border should be shot on sight). We've had raging fights and finally my DH asked me to stop. I've stopped being friendly with them and am now just civil. I engage kindly when my children are around but once my kids are in bed I essentially leave the room and won't deal with them at all. They know I find their views repugnant and am only maintaining a relationship for the sake of my DH and kids. FWIW they are good grandparents but I listen and watch like a hawk to make sure they don't say anything racist or hateful in front of my kids. They are coming to visit in a week...we'll see how it goes. Good luck to you.

We are living parallel lives. It’s so hard to stay quiet but I do. My in laws are super religious and have repugnant views.

[Anonymous]

It’s sad that you people ( who I have to assume are white or white identified) won’t avtually speak to your family members and tell them they’re racist trash and argue each of their points into oblivion. This is how racism perpetuates — you’d rather have a relaxing vacation than call your own blood out for their terrible ways.

Oh the privilege of being white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s sad that you people ( who I have to assume are white or white identified) won’t avtually speak to your family members and tell them they’re racist trash and argue each of their points into oblivion. This is how racism perpetuates — you’d rather have a relaxing vacation than call your own blood out for their terrible ways.

Oh the privilege of being white.

NP, and I am white.

I do speak to my family members quite a bit about this. Most of the time I am greeted with eye rolls and no one takes me seriously...just "oh, Diane is getting passionate again, ha ha ha." My mom and I have ended up in screaming matches more than once. We have a pretty icy relationship now. I can't get passed the ugliness of her views while she actually feels embolden by this and it feeds into her persecution complex.

The problem I run into is that my family thinks I am over-reacting to honest political differences. They think I am a insufferable, politically correct know-it-all because that's easier than facing the unpleasant realities of institutionalized racism and how we contribute to it. I have pulled back some because I felt I was doing more harm than good by belaboring the point...they just dug their heels in further.

It should be noted that I don't actually seem my family very much.