If your family are trumpsters

[Anonymous]

Most of the older generations of my family are pro-Trump.

(This is different from the moderate, now left-leaning, Republican stance with which I grew up.)

Most of the younger adult generation is anti-Trump, with one notable exception.

The solution: I never talk politics with my family or on social media. It ends badly. Nothing I say is going to persuade the Trumpsters to abandon their viewpoints, so I'm better off giving time and money and energy to organizations working for change. And I do.

Cowardly? Maybe. But why bother beating my head against a brick wall?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Racists and family separation supporters deserve to be shunned, even by family members. It's not just two different perspectives. One is evil.

Rich the irony is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Racists and family separation supporters deserve to be shunned, even by family members. It's not just two different perspectives. One is evil.

Rich the irony is.

Sorry, but ripping children from parents is not even close to adults choosing to be estranged from family members

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Boy - you all are a pains, if I was your mom I would dread having you come with all your anxieties and inability to have a social interaction w/o whining. I have two children with different political beliefs and would like to think they were brought up to interact socially and respect others' views in an adult manner. But growing up I had the advantage of my parents and their friends hosting political discussions with debate over opposing viewpoints and saw how an adult exchange takes place. Sad for you.

This person is very young and immature. Hopefully they grow out of it.

Well said, "adult exchange".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Racists and family separation supporters deserve to be shunned, even by family members. It's not just two different perspectives. One is evil.

Rich the irony is.

+ 1 million

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Racists and family separation supporters deserve to be shunned, even by family members. It's not just two different perspectives. One is evil.

Rich the irony is.

Sorry, but ripping children from parents is not even close to adults choosing to be estranged from family members

same result

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you must be really young, or you would understand that as you go through life and experience sad and/or really hard times, you're going to wish you'd maintained family relationships. Unless there's another underlying reason, it's best to try to not sever ties over politics.

Not politics. Human rights!! If you don't care about children, you don't get to be around mine.

PP here. Okay. Human rights. There are human rights issues all over the world. "Human Rights" is not a sword to die on when you have a whole life ahead. "Human Rights" won't be there for you if lose a child, are dying of cancer, experience a terrible financial loss, etc. You'll need and want your family.

Wow. This is a weird argument. Are you afraid some people are gonna disown you? Yeah, you should be scared.

No, I'm not afraid of being disowned; I value our family too much to let it be torn apart. I'm pointing out that political views and human rights issues will not be there for anyone in their times of joy and times of need (as in celebrating marriages, births, and other important family events or getting older, sick, suffering financial loss, etc).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you must be really young, or you would understand that as you go through life and experience sad and/or really hard times, you're going to wish you'd maintained family relationships. Unless there's another underlying reason, it's best to try to not sever ties over politics.

People like you are the reason these attitudes persist. Why not learn to stand on your own two feet so you don't need to placate your vile family members in order to rely on them? I don't need or want any help from my family, and those who have adopted positions I find disgusting and immoral are not welcome in my life. [/quote]

PP here. I don't have any "vile" family members, and I more than stand on my own two feet. From what you've said, your family is very different from mine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you must be really young, or you would understand that as you go through life and experience sad and/or really hard times, you're going to wish you'd maintained family relationships. Unless there's another underlying reason, it's best to try to not sever ties over politics.

Not politics. Human rights!! If you don't care about children, you don't get to be around mine.

And you get to solely decide what is a "human right" that warrants shunning? Your pro-life family member could just as easily shun you. Or let's all shun each other over differing views on Israeli-Palestinian relations. Etc, etc, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Racists and family separation supporters deserve to be shunned, even by family members. It's not just two different perspectives. One is evil.

Rich the irony is.

Sorry, but ripping children from parents is not even close to adults choosing to be estranged from family members

But you’re cool with D&C? Because its more scraping than ripping?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you must be really young, or you would understand that as you go through life and experience sad and/or really hard times, you're going to wish you'd maintained family relationships. Unless there's another underlying reason, it's best to try to not sever ties over politics.

Not politics. Human rights!! If you don't care about children, you don't get to be around mine.

And you get to solely decide what is a "human right" that warrants shunning? Your pro-life family member could just as easily shun you. Or let's all shun each other over differing views on Israeli-Palestinian relations. Etc, etc, etc.

Yeah, I get to decide for me. For example, if you were my family member, I would disown you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you must be really young, or you would understand that as you go through life and experience sad and/or really hard times, you're going to wish you'd maintained family relationships. Unless there's another underlying reason, it's best to try to not sever ties over politics.

Not politics. Human rights!! If you don't care about children, you don't get to be around mine.

And you get to solely decide what is a "human right" that warrants shunning? Your pro-life family member could just as easily shun you. Or let's all shun each other over differing views on Israeli-Palestinian relations. Etc, etc, etc.

Yeah, I get to decide for me. For example, if you were my family member, I would disown you.

Enjoy your lonely life. And to the extent it matters, I probably agree with you politically on more things than not, but really disdain the extreme sanctimony we see from all sides today.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you must be really young, or you would understand that as you go through life and experience sad and/or really hard times, you're going to wish you'd maintained family relationships. Unless there's another underlying reason, it's best to try to not sever ties over politics.

People like you are the reason these attitudes persist. Why not learn to stand on your own two feet so you don't need to placate your vile family members in order to rely on them? I don't need or want any help from my family, and those who have adopted positions I find disgusting and immoral are not welcome in my life. [/quote]

PP here. I don't have any "vile" family members, and I more than stand on my own two feet. From what you've said, your family is very different from mine.

Supporting the actions of this administration is vile. If you don't have any family members who have done that, why are you weighing in on this thread? Thankfully none of my family members or friends are Trumpsters. Some of my DH's aunts and uncles are, and we have happily cut them out of our life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My MIL voted for Trump and openly supported him. She's white and I am not. After a decade of a strained relationship I stopped seeing my MIL about a year ago. I have no idea what she thinks about anything and I don't care. My eyes are open to her and I can't unsee or unheard her veiled hate.

DO you allow your children around her unaccompanied by you or your husband?

Unaccompanied? No way. Since I cut her off she sees my kids with my husband one or twice a month. They are never left alone with her. I understand the importance of the grandparent relationship but I will never allow her time with them without supervision.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you must be really young, or you would understand that as you go through life and experience sad and/or really hard times, you're going to wish you'd maintained family relationships. Unless there's another underlying reason, it's best to try to not sever ties over politics.

Not politics. Human rights!! If you don't care about children, you don't get to be around mine.

And you get to solely decide what is a "human right" that warrants shunning? Your pro-life family member could just as easily shun you. Or let's all shun each other over differing views on Israeli-Palestinian relations. Etc, etc, etc.

I disdain support of child abuse more so than sanctimony. You do you, I guess.

Yeah, I get to decide for me. For example, if you were my family member, I would disown you.

Enjoy your lonely life. And to the extent it matters, I probably agree with you politically on more things than not, but really disdain the extreme sanctimony we see from all sides today.