Should I report a co worker for Medicaid/ food-stamp fraud?

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Anonymous wrote:So all you have to do is be an unmarried sahm and you can get government benefits? Insane


Op here. I don't think so which is why she says she's cheating the system. No one admits to cheating the system and brags about it. I definitely think she's committing fraud. She lies and says she doesn't know where the father is. The father works so she can stay at home with the children.


Yes, people do lie about not really needing benefits. There is more pride in being a cheat than being a loser in some circles. Have you ever lived in a poor place?


Op here. This is so bizarre that she would be lying about cheating welfare. She gave me lots of details about how she cheated so I think she's really committing fraud. I don't feel comfortable working with her anymore and I am not sure how to go about telling church. My daughter is in the same classroom so I think it may be tricky changing to another room.


Not PP, but another PP who has found this story extremely fishy. Regardless of whether she is telling the truth about fraud or not, I think it’s not unreasonable to mention to your pastor or whoever that you are uncomfortable working with someone who brags about fraud. She may be lying, but the bragging about lying really has no place in a church nursery, you know?
Anonymous
Boyfriend can be considered a separate household. My MIL got food stamps when she lived with us and we were not included in the household. We had to give a letter saying she was staying with us, blah blah blah...
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Anonymous wrote:They are not married so it is based solely on her income so she should be getting benefits. She does not need to report the boyfriend. Its not relevant or how it works.


Really? Even if the boyfriend is the father and they live in the same household?


No, they will probably go after him for child support but it goes by marriage which is one reason people don't get married.


STOP. Every time someone posts about assistance, someone like you responds with INCORRECT information.

Research your state's food stamp (SNAP) policies for details.

It's more likely that you, op, are correct: if he's the father of the kids, he probably needs to be included, if he lives with them.

If you want to report them, fine. But for your own sake, just remember that for all you know, she's receiving all benefits legally, but lying about her boyfriend's income.



Thank you, PP! The SNAP program, the name of the food stamp program, is funded by the USDA and is administered by state and local governments. The USDA defines a family for eligibility purposes as any group, related or otherwise, who lives together and purchases and prepares meals together. Take that for what you will. Medicaid applies similar criteria. So, OP, if you are aware that she is lying about her household make up, you may have evidence of a program violation.

I personally think that OP is here to stir up trouble as evidenced by her frequent, incredulous responses to posters questioning her desire to report. I work with a population that relies on food stamps and Medicaid while working crappy, minimum wage jobs. They are doing their best to get by and are honest people.
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are not married so it is based solely on her income so she should be getting benefits. She does not need to report the boyfriend. Its not relevant or how it works.


Really? Even if the boyfriend is the father and they live in the same household?


No, they will probably go after him for child support but it goes by marriage which is one reason people don't get married.


STOP. Every time someone posts about assistance, someone like you responds with INCORRECT information.

Research your state's food stamp (SNAP) policies for details.

It's more likely that you, op, are correct: if he's the father of the kids, he probably needs to be included, if he lives with them.

If you want to report them, fine. But for your own sake, just remember that for all you know, she's receiving all benefits legally, but lying about her boyfriend's income.



Thank you, PP! The SNAP program, the name of the food stamp program, is funded by the USDA and is administered by state and local governments. The USDA defines a family for eligibility purposes as any group, related or otherwise, who lives together and purchases and prepares meals together. Take that for what you will. Medicaid applies similar criteria. So, OP, if you are aware that she is lying about her household make up, you may have evidence of a program violation.

I personally think that OP is here to stir up trouble as evidenced by her frequent, incredulous responses to posters questioning her desire to report. I work with a population that relies on food stamps and Medicaid while working crappy, minimum wage jobs. They are doing their best to get by and are honest people.


I just noticed today these huge advertisements on the side of metro buses urging people to report SNAP fraud so I don’t think it’s the OP stiring up trouble. Sounds like enough of an issue that the want people to actively report.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So all you have to do is be an unmarried sahm and you can get government benefits? Insane


Op here. I don't think so which is why she says she's cheating the system. No one admits to cheating the system and brags about it. I definitely think she's committing fraud. She lies and says she doesn't know where the father is. The father works so she can stay at home with the children.


Yes, people do lie about not really needing benefits. There is more pride in being a cheat than being a loser in some circles. Have you ever lived in a poor place?


Op here. This is so bizarre that she would be lying about cheating welfare. She gave me lots of details about how she cheated so I think she's really committing fraud. I don't feel comfortable working with her anymore and I am not sure how to go about telling church. My daughter is in the same classroom so I think it may be tricky changing to another room.


You didn't answer the question so I will elaborate. I used to work in an impoverished school (AmeriCorps). One of my colleagues would make comments like you describe here. I also thought she was cheating the system, until she asked me to drive her past the place she was "staying." It was a literal trailer park. Everything she ever owned came from Wal-Mart. She was making less than $10k/year. Maybe she was lying on the forms, maybe she wasn't, but if she was, she didn't need to be.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They are not married so it is based solely on her income so she should be getting benefits. She does not need to report the boyfriend. Its not relevant or how it works.


Not true. Earnings of all who live in house are counted. Yes, OP, report her. I am so damn tired of corruption, whether the entire Trump regime or the woman you know.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are not married so it is based solely on her income so she should be getting benefits. She does not need to report the boyfriend. Its not relevant or how it works.


Not true. Earnings of all who live in house are counted. Yes, OP, report her. I am so damn tired of corruption, whether the entire Trump regime or the woman you know.


+1000

Report. If she's lying and really does need the welfare, it's not like they'll take it away from her.

People who lie/malinger for welfare sucks.
Anonymous
I'm fine with people reporting whatever they consider to be potential fraud of our shared government.

I also think that everyone should be well aware that the most recent USDA report reconfirms that SNAP fraud (which does get researched and studied) remains at overall about 1 penny out of every 1 dollar.

So, just to be clear -- report fraud if you suspect it, AND remain aware that for every case of fraud, that balances against hundreds people who are struggling and using the system without fraud of any kind.

https://www.fns.usda.gov/pressrelease/2013/fns-001213
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:She’s lying to you. No nail tech on the planet makes 2,000 in tips. She has to lie and brag to make herself feel better. Let her love her life and focus on yourself. She sounds very low vibration. I would keep my distance.



How do you know? 20 clients a day with tips, 6 days a week, he could easily bring home that much money.
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Why is this in the relationships forum?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is this in the relationships forum?


OP overheard someone say that there are cheaters here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are not married so it is based solely on her income so she should be getting benefits. She does not need to report the boyfriend. Its not relevant or how it works.


Not true. Earnings of all who live in house are counted. Yes, OP, report her. I am so damn tired of corruption, whether the entire Trump regime or the woman you know.


Neither of you are correct. Please research the policies for your state before making such statements.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She’s lying to you. No nail tech on the planet makes 2,000 in tips. She has to lie and brag to make herself feel better. Let her love her life and focus on yourself. She sounds very low vibration. I would keep my distance.



How do you know? 20 clients a day with tips, 6 days a week, he could easily bring home that much money.


Oh, really? Let’s see...$2000 PER WEEK, just in tips, as OP said - so that’s $333 in tips per day for a 6-day work week, which is a $16 tip for each customer at 20 customers a day. What luck that this guy works at a place where he gets $16 in tips from every customer, every day! I should become a nail technician.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Boyfriend can be considered a separate household. My MIL got food stamps when she lived with us and we were not included in the household. We had to give a letter saying she was staying with us, blah blah blah...


The boyfriend is the father!
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