Donor eggs

[Anonymous]

OP, how did you have your children? Have you ever dealt with infertility?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, how did you have your children? Have you ever dealt with infertility?

OP here - no children yet. Embryos are frozen. I am dealing with immune issues. DE have been ruled out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, how did you have your children? Have you ever dealt with infertility?

OP here - no children yet. Embryos are frozen. I am dealing with immune issues. DE have been ruled out.

Why did you add that “DE have been ruled out”? You are truly strange.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, how did you have your children? Have you ever dealt with infertility?

OP here - no children yet. Embryos are frozen. I am dealing with immune issues. DE have been ruled out.

Why did you add that “DE have been ruled out”? You are truly strange.

OP here - because if I do not succeed with my own eggs I will not do DE eggs, which are relentlessly pushed on women 40 and over.

[Anonymous]

Something tellls me op is the same poster who started the anti-adoption thread a few weeks ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^
also one of th critics acknowledges that you need to make it to the second trimester to reap the benefits, as t were. but that is the theory suggested by the authors in the original study - that older women's bodies might be less forgiving/ more selective and therefore less likely to let imperfect embryos continue.

Whatever you need to tell yourself. Science says otherwise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^
also one of th critics acknowledges that you need to make it to the second trimester to reap the benefits, as t were. but that is the theory suggested by the authors in the original study - that older women's bodies might be less forgiving/ more selective and therefore less likely to let imperfect embryos continue.

Whatever you need to tell yourself. Science says otherwise.

i don't need to tell myself anything. i had easy pregnancies and my children were born healthy.

but this is science, too. at least i have a phd. how about you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, how did you have your children? Have you ever dealt with infertility?

OP here - no children yet. Embryos are frozen. I am dealing with immune issues. DE have been ruled out.

Why did you add that “DE have been ruled out”? You are truly strange.

OP here - because if I do not succeed with my own eggs I will not do DE eggs, which are relentlessly pushed on women 40 and over.

Great—you do you and try not to be so condescending to those who did not make the same choices in life as you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Something tellls me op is the same poster who started the anti-adoption thread a few weeks ago.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:My DE kids are my kids! I never think about their genes. They act (but they don't look) like my bio child because they were raised in the same family with the same values. The donor was of a lower SES but she was also an immigrant (like my low SES parents). Her SES probably has nothing to do with her intelligence and everything to do with her circumstances. Anyway, all of my kids are kind and sweet and are doing great academically. I couldn't care less about their genetic material.

you don't think about your children's genes but people who have their genetic children often observe amazing similarities. it is an extra connection and extra dimension.

I also have a biological child. My bio child and my donor egg twins all have very different personalities. I see a bit of me in each one of them. There is no extra dimension in my relationship with my bio child. In fact I pretty much never think about it.

I love hearing this, PP I have a bio child but also severe DOR (I'm in my early 30s, we conceived my daughter while pursuing donor eggs) and I've thought a lot about the dynamic between DE and OE children. We're likely heading down the DE route soon and this is so nice to see.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, how did you have your children? Have you ever dealt with infertility?

OP here - no children yet. Embryos are frozen. I am dealing with immune issues. DE have been ruled out.

Why did you add that “DE have been ruled out”? You are truly strange.

OP here - because if I do not succeed with my own eggs I will not do DE eggs, which are relentlessly pushed on women 40 and over.

As it happens, DE wasn't relentlessly pushed on me at all. Because I got pregnant so easily, after the fifth loss, most doctors told me IVF would be pointless (elevated fsh and dor), but maybe if I kept getting pregnant I would get lucky. SG certainly pushed DE, but I would never cycle with them because they refuse semi-open donors. It was a long road for me to decide to use a donor, but it struck me that I would likely live in grief and mourning even more babies than the 8 I lost if I didn't do something different. That something was take my own genetics out of the equation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, how did you have your children? Have you ever dealt with infertility?

OP here - no children yet. Embryos are frozen. I am dealing with immune issues. DE have been ruled out.

Why did you add that “DE have been ruled out”? You are truly strange.

OP here - because if I do not succeed with my own eggs I will not do DE eggs, which are relentlessly pushed on women 40 and over.

As it happens, DE wasn't relentlessly pushed on me at all. Because I got pregnant so easily, after the fifth loss, most doctors told me IVF would be pointless (elevated fsh and dor), but maybe if I kept getting pregnant I would get lucky. SG certainly pushed DE, but I would never cycle with them because they refuse semi-open donors. It was a long road for me to decide to use a donor, but it struck me that I would likely live in grief and mourning even more babies than the 8 I lost if I didn't do something different. That something was take my own genetics out of the equation.

How high was your FSH and what was your AFC?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, how did you have your children? Have you ever dealt with infertility?

OP here - no children yet. Embryos are frozen. I am dealing with immune issues. DE have been ruled out.

Why did you add that “DE have been ruled out”? You are truly strange.

OP here - because if I do not succeed with my own eggs I will not do DE eggs, which are relentlessly pushed on women 40 and over.

As it happens, DE wasn't relentlessly pushed on me at all. Because I got pregnant so easily, after the fifth loss, most doctors told me IVF would be pointless (elevated fsh and dor), but maybe if I kept getting pregnant I would get lucky. SG certainly pushed DE, but I would never cycle with them because they refuse semi-open donors. It was a long road for me to decide to use a donor, but it struck me that I would likely live in grief and mourning even more babies than the 8 I lost if I didn't do something different. That something was take my own genetics out of the equation.

How high was your FSH and what was your AFC?

After my second m/c (I was 38) my fsh was 8 and my afc was about 14. But then after my third, at 39, my fsh spiked to 18. I don't remember my afc. I think it was less than 10 with one ovary significantly higher. At that point SG did push DE on me saying my high fsh meant I would never carry a healthy baby. Well, then I got pregnant again, with a genetically healthy baby we lost to random birth defects in the second trimester that weren't ama-related at all. They were associated with mthfr (I am homozygous). I was instructed to just keep trying naturally - by now I was 40- and had three more losses.....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, how did you have your children? Have you ever dealt with infertility?

OP here - no children yet. Embryos are frozen. I am dealing with immune issues. DE have been ruled out.

Why did you add that “DE have been ruled out”? You are truly strange.

OP here - because if I do not succeed with my own eggs I will not do DE eggs, which are relentlessly pushed on women 40 and over.

As it happens, DE wasn't relentlessly pushed on me at all. Because I got pregnant so easily, after the fifth loss, most doctors told me IVF would be pointless (elevated fsh and dor), but maybe if I kept getting pregnant I would get lucky. SG certainly pushed DE, but I would never cycle with them because they refuse semi-open donors. It was a long road for me to decide to use a donor, but it struck me that I would likely live in grief and mourning even more babies than the 8 I lost if I didn't do something different. That something was take my own genetics out of the equation.

How high was your FSH and what was your AFC?

After my second m/c (I was 38) my fsh was 8 and my afc was about 14. But then after my third, at 39, my fsh spiked to 18. I don't remember my afc. I think it was less than 10 with one ovary significantly higher. At that point SG did push DE on me saying my high fsh meant I would never carry a healthy baby. Well, then I got pregnant again, with a genetically healthy baby we lost to random birth defects in the second trimester that weren't ama-related at all. They were associated with mthfr (I am homozygous). I was instructed to just keep trying naturally - by now I was 40- and had three more losses.....

That’s really tough, PP. I feel for you. Did anyone give you an explanation why your FSH more than doubled in only one year? Why do you think MTHFR is responsible for it? Thanks a lot. I am also homo for MTHFR and everyone I talked to says it has no effect on eggs but who knows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DE kids are my kids! I never think about their genes. They act (but they don't look) like my bio child because they were raised in the same family with the same values. The donor was of a lower SES but she was also an immigrant (like my low SES parents). Her SES probably has nothing to do with her intelligence and everything to do with her circumstances. Anyway, all of my kids are kind and sweet and are doing great academically. I couldn't care less about their genetic material.

you don't think about your children's genes but people who have their genetic children often observe amazing similarities. it is an extra connection and extra dimension.

I also have a biological child. My bio child and my donor egg twins all have very different personalities. I see a bit of me in each one of them. There is no extra dimension in my relationship with my bio child. In fact I pretty much never think about it.

I love hearing this, PP I have a bio child but also severe DOR (I'm in my early 30s, we conceived my daughter while pursuing donor eggs) and I've thought a lot about the dynamic between DE and OE children. We're likely heading down the DE route soon and this is so nice to see.

I'm the PP with the DE twins and an older bio child. I really do adore all three children equally and since I've carried and nurtured each one of them since day one, they are all my kids.

The kids know that my eggs were "sick" and I used another woman's eggs to conceive the twins. I started telling them the story occasionally (if we were having a related discussion) from the time the twins were about age 3. I have also explained simple biology to them in the sense that we inherit one chromosome from each pair of chromosomes from each parent. I explained that the twins got one set of chromosomes from dad and the other set from the donor. The twins are almost seven and are starting to understand the implications. They ask a few questions and then they want to know who's turn it is to play Minecraft. The questions and feelings will inevitably become more complex with time, but for now the discussion is pretty dry and scientific.