Donor eggs

[Anonymous]

The pain of not knowing is obvious in these stories:

https://anonymousus.org/stories/

[Anonymous]

OP here - I acknowledge that many people are happy with DE choice. However, the most important person in every infertility story should be a child. I consider knowing one's genetic origins a basic human right. Also, a child should be free to pursue or not pursue contact and a relationship with his/her biological parent. In fact, only donors open to such possibility should be donors.
Therefore, I think that all third party reproduction should be open (DE, sperm, surrogacy). The closed ones should be banned.
If something has to be hidden than it simply cannot be right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here - I acknowledge that many people are happy with DE choice. However, the most important person in every infertility story should be a child. I consider knowing one's genetic origins a basic human right. Also, a child should be free to pursue or not pursue contact and a relationship with his/her biological parent. In fact, only donors open to such possibility should be donors.
Therefore, I think that all third party reproduction should be open (DE, sperm, surrogacy). The closed ones should be banned.
If something has to be hidden than it simply cannot be right.

I agree with this- it should all be open. And just like adoption, a child conceived with donor eggs or sperm should know about those circumstances from the beginning. Although I agree that perhaps donor children may possibly resent their parents, the alternative is that they would have never been born or had a chance to live a long happy fulfilling life with a loving family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here - I acknowledge that many people are happy with DE choice. However, the most important person in every infertility story should be a child. I consider knowing one's genetic origins a basic human right. Also, a child should be free to pursue or not pursue contact and a relationship with his/her biological parent. In fact, only donors open to such possibility should be donors.
Therefore, I think that all third party reproduction should be open (DE, sperm, surrogacy). The closed ones should be banned.
If something has to be hidden than it simply cannot be right.

So you basically posted your question so you could make this point? If you are not comfortable using DE then don't use them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So my eggs are old and crappy at 40?

Yes -- this is news to you?

actually there was a study shogun that fetuses from older eggs have fewer developmental problems. the idea is that in older women selection is stronger so fewer eggs make embryos and more embryos are miscarried. but if chromosomes are fine they actually do well.

Do you have a citation for the study, because that conclusion is the opposition of just about everything I have read on the subject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here - I acknowledge that many people are happy with DE choice. However, the most important person in every infertility story should be a child. I consider knowing one's genetic origins a basic human right. Also, a child should be free to pursue or not pursue contact and a relationship with his/her biological parent. In fact, only donors open to such possibility should be donors.
Therefore, I think that all third party reproduction should be open (DE, sperm, surrogacy). The closed ones should be banned.
If something has to be hidden than it simply cannot be right.

"If something has to be hidden than it simply cannot be right." Nice rhetoric from someone who chooses to post anonymously. I suspect you are responsible for most of these posts -- simply talking to yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - I acknowledge that many people are happy with DE choice. However, the most important person in every infertility story should be a child. I consider knowing one's genetic origins a basic human right. Also, a child should be free to pursue or not pursue contact and a relationship with his/her biological parent. In fact, only donors open to such possibility should be donors.
Therefore, I think that all third party reproduction should be open (DE, sperm, surrogacy). The closed ones should be banned.
If something has to be hidden than it simply cannot be right.

So you basically posted your question so you could make this point? If you are not comfortable using DE then don't use them.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So my eggs are old and crappy at 40?

Yes -- this is news to you?

actually there was a study shogun that fetuses from older eggs have fewer developmental problems. the idea is that in older women selection is stronger so fewer eggs make embryos and more embryos are miscarried. but if chromosomes are fine they actually do well.

Do you have a citation for the study, because that conclusion is the opposition of just about everything I have read on the subject.

https://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20140203/babies-born-to-moms-over-35-may-have-lower-risk-for-certain-birth-defects

you can google the original study from here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here - one (or few) of PPs very nicely argued why DE should not pushed onto women 40+ while being supportive of the women who chose DE. I agree with all her various arguments.

I am going a step further - I am saying that DE practice is a money and success rates scheme for the clinics that renders DE child denied of his/her human right to know their genetic mother.
For me, DE is immoral and cruel to a child. I cannot see any life scenario in which my feelings and longings for a child should override what I consider a fundamental human right; for a person to know where they come from. Being happy for having a DE child can never ever in mind override the resentment and hate that DE child will inevitably feel for me and all involved into bringing him/her into the world once he/she is an adult. In fact, I can foresee many lawsuits in future from DE children.

I have two bio children and one DE. The DE one knows that she is DE and if she wants to get in touch with the donor when she is 18 that will be possible and completely fine with me. If fact, I hope she does. I know a lot about the donor but I've never met her. I'm curious and I'd like to thank her in person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So my eggs are old and crappy at 40?

Yes -- this is news to you?

actually there was a study shogun that fetuses from older eggs have fewer developmental problems. the idea is that in older women selection is stronger so fewer eggs make embryos and more embryos are miscarried. but if chromosomes are fine they actually do well.

Do you have a citation for the study, because that conclusion is the opposition of just about everything I have read on the subject.

https://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20140203/babies-born-to-moms-over-35-may-have-lower-risk-for-certain-birth-defects

you can google the original study from here.

Your cited article points out the weaknesses with this study, which even if reliable, looked only at a few anatomical defects.

[Anonymous]

OP you are a fine specimen of a human being and I fully understand why you would want to pass along your superior genes.

In all of your posts, replace instances of DE with donor sperm or adoption. Do those also breach your version of violating human rights? You are ridiculous and threads like this make me so angry. Compassion...in all your infinite “wisdom” you seem to lack this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The pain of not knowing is obvious in these stories:

https://anonymousus.org/stories/

Yikes!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - I acknowledge that many people are happy with DE choice. However, the most important person in every infertility story should be a child. I consider knowing one's genetic origins a basic human right. Also, a child should be free to pursue or not pursue contact and a relationship with his/her biological parent. In fact, only donors open to such possibility should be donors.
Therefore, I think that all third party reproduction should be open (DE, sperm, surrogacy). The closed ones should be banned.
If something has to be hidden than it simply cannot be right.

I agree with this- it should all be open. And just like adoption, a child conceived with donor eggs or sperm should know about those circumstances from the beginning. Although I agree that perhaps donor children may possibly resent their parents, the alternative is that they would have never been born or had a chance to live a long happy fulfilling life with a loving family.

What's so good about being born? I personally would have preferred it. Read David Benatar's "The Harm of Coming into Existence".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So my eggs are old and crappy at 40?

Yes -- this is news to you?

actually there was a study shogun that fetuses from older eggs have fewer developmental problems. the idea is that in older women selection is stronger so fewer eggs make embryos and more embryos are miscarried. but if chromosomes are fine they actually do well.

Do you have a citation for the study, because that conclusion is the opposition of just about everything I have read on the subject.

https://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20140203/babies-born-to-moms-over-35-may-have-lower-risk-for-certain-birth-defects

you can google the original study from here.

Your cited article points out the weaknesses with this study, which even if reliable, looked only at a few anatomical defects.

all studies have weaknesses. the fact that that kost peole blithely assume that every single thing gets worse with age. and it doesn't, far from it.

[Anonymous]

^^
also one of th critics acknowledges that you need to make it to the second trimester to reap the benefits, as t were. but that is the theory suggested by the authors in the original study - that older women's bodies might be less forgiving/ more selective and therefore less likely to let imperfect embryos continue.