Turn in the non-resident cheaters (Residency Fraud Reporting)

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Anonymous wrote:WTF does this have to do with anything? Nice try, trying to shift focus away. You troll cheaters are a naughty/nutty bunch! Plain and simple PGer (or Punk Goon as it was eloquently stated above)- leave our DC schools to our DC children- rich, poor, black, white, special-ed, regular, young, old! Stop stealing for OUR kids. Thank goodness the do-nothing bureaucracy of DCPS is being forced to get involved here. These tired conversations with thieves are enough already!

AA Washingtonian DC tax- payer. The cheaters have been around for over fifty years. They are taking a few seats. But, honestly if they were taking seats from schools East of the River aka poor students , will we see this much enthusiasm to catch a non resident cheater? I chalk it up as another, built in, bureaucratic obstacle we have to deal with. Maybe, as an AA parent dealing with DCPS ,you get used to the bullshit. I have participated in PTA's and LSAT's to make changes in the system. Hopefully, DCPS will stop residency fraud. But to label a whole County as "goons" has racial undertones. There is know secret that Prince Georges County is predominately AA. A lot of native Washingtonians have relatives that live out there. You made not meant it that way. Trust me, if you called any African American a goon, you are making very negative insult. Your displeasure with the cheaters is noted. Choose your words carefully.

The poster knew exactly what he/she was typing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow! You sound a wee bit bitter. I do not condone displacing poor or rich kids. I don't approve of over zealous Moms, that don't have anything to do except snoop around cars or children's personel records to "out "fraudulent parents. My kids school office admin. are diligent about resident requirements i.e. utility bills, auto regs., property tax info etc. It is not perfect but directing your energies towards these dastardly parents instead of questioning the non-use of textbooks or using a non- effective First in Math curriculum makes better use of your time. For argument sake, I grew up near Naylor Rd. SE , attended Howard Univ. and Med School, volunteer at Ballou Sr. High and work at United Medical Center on Southern Ave. S.E. Just saying.

Anonymous wrote:Guess what! I am an awesome mom, so I can support my school, volunteer, chaperone AND fill out the cheater form, too. I did fill it out, too, after we were invited to a birthday party in PG county. The residency was upheld because the deadbeat dad has a DC address, even though the child is living in PG with grandparents. So, not a perfect system, but it's what we have.

Anonymous wrote:How the hell do you you know the dad is a deadbeat? The racism on these boards is not even hidden anymore. Ugh! Disgusting.

Anonymous wrote:+1 Ditto!!!!

There are over a quarter million white folks in PG county - it seems like a mistake to assume that any reference to PG is aimed at AAs.

Yeah, but according to DCUM, every white person i DC is upper middle-class, educated, reliable on the go individuals. And, every black person, with an exception of a few, are well FARMS, uneducated, dead beat parents who are uninterested with their children's education. Please don't pretend that you have not noticed that about DCUM responders.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:WTF does this have to do with anything? Nada. Nice try, trying to shift focus away. You troll cheaters are a naughty/nutty bunch! Plain and simple PGer (or Punk Goon as it was eloquently stated above)- leave our DC schools to our DC children- rich, poor, black, white, special-ed, regular, young, old! Stop stealing for OUR kids. Thank goodness the do-nothing bureaucracy of DCPS is being forced to get involved here. These tired conversations with thieves are enough already!

Punk Goon says it all. Wow. I bet if you thought the cheaters were white kids from Silver Spring cheating the system you would have a kinder sentiment.

You lost the bet- they're Monster Goons!

[Anonymous]

To me, a goon is a Polish or Russian guy who plays hockey and is usually the dude that gets into fights and acts as the "enforcer."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Main Entry: goon
Pronunciation: \?gün\
Function: noun
Etymology: probably short for English dialect gooney simpleton
Date: 1921
1 : a stupid person 2 a : a man hired to terrorize or eliminate opponents b : enforcer 2b

Where in the world are black people referenced here? They're not! We don't need to worry about PG goons. There's enough here right on this site!

George Zimmerman, is that you? If you think it's ok to refer to all PG kids as Goons, then as a PP mentioned, I dare anyone to refer to any kid as a goon in your next PTA meeting with any black parent present.

STFU!! Zimmerman is your reflection- dumbass! No one said PG kids were goons, much less black goons. Stop trying to make up fake racial hostilities, residency cheater!

GZimmerman was the exact reflection. When everyone thought he said "coon" on the phone with police and he comes out and says "no, I didn't say that, I said goon" every black person grimaced. It doesn't matter what the dictionary or origination of a word is, when you say it with a certain intent to speak of a group of kids, you can't deny it has racial undertones. We all know where the term "ghetto" originated from, but when DCUMers say those "ghetto kids" we know they are saying it with hate.

[Anonymous]

Because you're all excited from potentially being caught residency cheating, you're drumming up a "bunch of malarkey". No one on here except PG cheaters are associating "goon" with black people. Just stop it!! Chose another group to pick on!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because you're all excited from potentially being caught residency cheating, you're drumming up a "bunch of malarkey". No one on here except PG cheaters are associating "goon" with black people. Just stop it!! Chose another group to pick on!!!!

False! Think what you want. I am a tax-paying DC resident that thinks all cheaters should be prosecuted and expelled from school regardless of the sad story behind the cheating. However, I do take extreme offense when I hear people being referred to as "greasy trolls, ghouls, goblins, and goons".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because you're all excited from potentially being caught residency cheating, you're drumming up a "bunch of malarkey". No one on here except PG cheaters are associating "goon" with black people. Just stop it!! Chose another group to pick on!!!!

This thread indeed has taken a strange turn, perhaps in an attempt to equate concern about stealing public education services with racism and therefore to discredit the whole issue.

For the record, I knew of some white children from Maryland who attended a desirable, oversubscribed Ward 3 school. Parents were DC government employees and one had a partial share in a DC property but the family was non-resident in DC. Anecdotally, much of the cheating has involved DC government employees who may use connections to get into particular DCPS schools and/or who like the convenience of favorable before/after school care at favorable cost. It is probably more prevalent among residents who live in PG than MoCo, given the general relative strengths of their public school systems. Bottom line: It is still theft of public services from the taxpayers and of scarce resources from actual DC resident students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To me, a goon is a Polish or Russian guy who plays hockey and is usually the dude that gets into fights and acts as the "enforcer."

Let me help some folks out. If you are using a dictionary to validate the use and context of a word, then you are missing the point. The OP referred to people from Prince Georges County as goons. IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, IT IS INSULTING TO AFRICAN AMERICANS ESPECIALLY AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN! Don't believe me? Go up to a Black male co worker and call him a "goon". I'll wait. That is just plain wrong. For someone to tell someone else what is hurtful and not takes a lot of nerve. It may be ignorance or a sense of entitlement but don't pretend you are looking out for the kids. Just say it. If you are on school( A )waiting list and you think a kid from Md or Va taking your DC's spot, then say it. Don't act like you give a damn about what happens at Orr, Simmon, or Randle Highlands Elementary, etc. Because you are frustrated with the system, it doesn't give you the right to say a racist statement. Trust me, worse have been said on DCUM. You can claim ignorance, arrogance or the AA's are pulling the race card. But, if someone tells you that you said something hurtful, you need to take heed. I'm sure your comeback will be something like " you are protecting the cheaters or I'm a taxpayer". I'm quite sure I have been paying taxes in DC a little longer than you ( just a guest). But that doesn't give me the right to use derogatory names to a community.

[Anonymous]

Don't believe me? Go up to a Black male co worker and call him a "goon". I'll wait.

Don't you think that if you went up to any co-worker of any hue or stripe and called the person a "goon," (assuming you weren't in the habit of ribbing each other), he/she might take offense or at least think you were a bit strange? I don't think this is particular to black males.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To me, a goon is a Polish or Russian guy who plays hockey and is usually the dude that gets into fights and acts as the "enforcer."

Let me help some folks out. If you are using a dictionary to validate the use and context of a word, then you are missing the point. The OP referred to people from Prince Georges County as goons. IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, IT IS INSULTING TO AFRICAN AMERICANS ESPECIALLY AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN! Don't believe me? Go up to a Black male co worker and call him a "goon". I'll wait. That is just plain wrong. For someone to tell someone else what is hurtful and not takes a lot of nerve. It may be ignorance or a sense of entitlement but don't pretend you are looking out for the kids. Just say it. If you are on school( A )waiting list and you think a kid from Md or Va taking your DC's spot, then say it. Don't act like you give a damn about what happens at Orr, Simmon, or Randle Highlands Elementary, etc. Because you are frustrated with the system, it doesn't give you the right to say a racist statement. Trust me, worse have been said on DCUM. You can claim ignorance, arrogance or the AA's are pulling the race card. But, if someone tells you that you said something hurtful, you need to take heed. I'm sure your comeback will be something like " you are protecting the cheaters or I'm a taxpayer". I'm quite sure I have been paying taxes in DC a little longer than you ( just a guest). But that doesn't give me the right to use derogatory names to a community.

My comeback is... Stop whining! A goon is not a racial slur for black people. Maybe it is under your rock somewhere, but in the rest of the world it's a simpleton wiseguy. Sorry, you so desperately want it to slur AAs, but it doesn't. It does, however, draw focus away from cheaters. Anyone "hurt" by the term needs to get a backbone and ask himself why.

[Anonymous]

I do think in DC and environs people are on hair-trigger to take offense at any perceived racial slight.

A notable example was about 10 years ago when a member of the Williams administration was fired because in a meeting he bemoaned a budget allocation as "niggardly." Some DC government employees at the meeting accused him of using the n-word and took great offense. Their ignorance of the English language would have been almost comical if not for the reputational damage to the appointee, who was reinstated by Mayor Williams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To me, a goon is a Polish or Russian guy who plays hockey and is usually the dude that gets into fights and acts as the "enforcer."

Let me help some folks out. If you are using a dictionary to validate the use and context of a word, then you are missing the point. The OP referred to people from Prince Georges County as goons. IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, IT IS INSULTING TO AFRICAN AMERICANS ESPECIALLY AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN! Don't believe me? Go up to a Black male co worker and call him a "goon". I'll wait. That is just plain wrong. For someone to tell someone else what is hurtful and not takes a lot of nerve. It may be ignorance or a sense of entitlement but don't pretend you are looking out for the kids. Just say it. If you are on school( A )waiting list and you think a kid from Md or Va taking your DC's spot, then say it. Don't act like you give a damn about what happens at Orr, Simmon, or Randle Highlands Elementary, etc. Because you are frustrated with the system, it doesn't give you the right to say a racist statement. Trust me, worse have been said on DCUM. You can claim ignorance, arrogance or the AA's are pulling the race card. But, if someone tells you that you said something hurtful, you need to take heed. I'm sure your comeback will be something like " you are protecting the cheaters or I'm a taxpayer". I'm quite sure I have been paying taxes in DC a little longer than you ( just a guest). But that doesn't give me the right to use derogatory names to a community.

+1000. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do think in DC and environs people are on hair-trigger to take offense at any perceived racial slight.

A notable example was about 10 years ago when a member of the Williams administration was fired because in a meeting he bemoaned a budget allocation as "niggardly." Some DC government employees at the meeting accused him of using the n-word and took great offense. Their ignorance of the English language would have been almost comical if not for the reputational damage to the appointee, who was reinstated by Mayor Williams.

This. Totally remember this!!! Thanks for sharing. Sheds light on a clear misunderstanding of a term in a world of racial paranoia!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because you're all excited from potentially being caught residency cheating, you're drumming up a "bunch of malarkey". No one on here except PG cheaters are associating "goon" with black people. Just stop it!! Chose another group to pick on!!!!

This thread indeed has taken a strange turn, perhaps in an attempt to equate concern about stealing public education services with racism and therefore to discredit the whole issue.

For the record, I knew of some white children from Maryland who attended a desirable, oversubscribed Ward 3 school. Parents were DC government employees and one had a partial share in a DC property but the family was non-resident in DC. Anecdotally, much of the cheating has involved DC government employees who may use connections to get into particular DCPS schools and/or who like the convenience of favorable before/after school care at favorable cost. It is probably more prevalent among residents who live in PG than MoCo, given the general relative strengths of their public school systems. Bottom line: It is still theft of public services from the taxpayers and of scarce resources from actual DC resident students.

+1. please let's go back to the main issue, and let's just leave the trolls/derogatory-words-using-posters outside. residency fraud in DCPS and DC charters exist, is bad because it robs the most vulnerable and needy kids in our community of a chance to a good education, and it amounts to theft. cheaters come in all colors and from both VA and MD (various counties). the problem has been going on for years, but now is more pressing since there are more and more desirable schools in DC with long waitlists. DCPS has a shameful record of not doing much, DC parents' pressure may be starting to push DCPS and Charters to act. there is a system for reporting suspected cases of cheating (and it does not take a lot of investigating sometimes, if your kids is invited for a playdate at his/her classmate' home and the home is in XYZ, MD or WYZ, VA, it does not take Sherlock Holmes to think that maybe DCPS should verify the residency of that child).