ICE is merely enforcing laws passed by Congress and signed by our elected presidents

[Anonymous]

Our former contractor in Montgomery County, owned by a white couple, emailed us last week saying a worker who had worked for them until recently was a legal resident who had been profiled and detained. He was rightfully terrified and she said workers don’t want to show up, especially in DC. She asked people to reach out to the governor and included a script.

They don’t care about residents or small businesses, and they are continuing to racially profile in DC.

[Anonymous]

and chicago and los angeles and memphis and now New orleans

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Anonymous wrote:I think the entire discussion calls for nuance, as a naturalized legal citizen, here’s my perspective.

People who have been residing in the U.S for 20+ years with no criminal record should have been offered a path to citizenship, to deport people who have lived here for 20-35 years is plain cruel. They could have asked them for 25% extra in taxes. Less than 20 years, deport because you have to agree to a number.

Now to be fair; As for ICE, law enforcement is a high strung, dangerous job. I think they are trying but sometimes people being deported also get very emotional and a charged situation is immediately created. Are there some legit bad guys in ICE? Yes, but majority are just doing a job. There’s just no easy way to go about the current orders that have been issued to them.

As with everything else, the goal wasn’t a rational, reasonable policy that could have been discussed as adults, this unnecessary misery was the point.

Also, this argument that “oh they broke the law when they came here illegally”, life isn’t black and white Infact 95% of the time it’s grey. If someone has been here for 20+ years and is a productive member of community then we should have shown compassion. Just my 2 cents.

Im not sure what to do about people who have been residing here undocumented or on temporary protected status who overstayed visas or who were undocumented.

But you need to consider there have been people who have been waiting over 20 years to legally migrate through family reunification. That is how long the waiting list is to sponsor certain types of relatives in order for them to legally migrate. Their family members are upset they played by the rules and people cut in front of them, many from their own countries.

Then once you say okay if you make it here 20 years you can stay, it encourages more undocumented migrants who then will wait 20 years to legally stay.

What absolutely would help would be for law enforcement to communicate with ice and not release people with convictions. ICE often goes to the last know address of a criminal alien then can legally ask for id’s from everyone in the apartment. So sometimes no one remotely related still lives there or it is a relative with no arrests or convictions then they get carted away.

I am 100% in favor of this common-sense measure. Why would anyone be opposed to this?

For the zillionth time, no one is opposed to deporting criminals.

All these sanctuary jurisdictions say otherwise.
They will not hold criminals in jail for ICE to pick up, and will not not notify ICE of their release.
They do this for FBI, DEA, Marshal Service, but not ICE.

IOW citizes will not do the work of ICE. ICE should do its own work. If ICE were compensating cities for doing its work, then we wouldn't be here, but since ICE isn't authorized to do that and the Congress wouldn't authorize it, you all scapegoat the cities. We already subsidize the red states enough without this nonsense.

But cities will do the work of FBI and DEA?

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OP, who lied and told you that? Watch some real news. They aren't even letting Congress do their oversight duty.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA loves violent, incompetent, poorly trained cops.

You should see who is showing up for FBI training.

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Anonymous wrote:What Congressional law is ICE following?

INA
https://cis.org/Arthur/Guide-Detention-and-Removal-Process-and-Due-Process

You think they are not allowed to deport people?

You think this discussion is about lawful deportation of people having been given due process and treated humanely throughout?

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Anonymous wrote:Counterpoint

MAGA: "TheY ArENt ArReStinG US ciTIzeNS!!!!11!!!"

Yes they are. Shut up already and be embarrassed for being wrong.

They detained him for an hour while they verified his information. What is strange about this case is the lawsuit indicates he is a natural born citizen of Mexican descent who was born in Florida then at age 14 he moved to Alabama. If you listen to the recordings and press conference. He can barely speak a word of English. As he is being detained he yells in Spanish, "Soy ciudano estadounidense [I am a US citizen]" Also of note his 34 year old brother was at the worksite who is undocumented and was arrested.

There is someone who is in the background who sounds like his parents are Latino immigrants and yells in English- "he's a citizen, bro!". That guy wasn't detained. Why, obviously because it is really suspicious you are born in the US and you literally can't speak any English. All of his press conferences are done in Spanish. It isn't even that he speaks English with an accent.

Is it a requirement in the US to speak English? Absolutely not. You can speak whatever language you want. But if you are at a worksite where your brother is undocumented and is arrested and then they find you yelling in Spanish how you are a US citizen and born in Florida, it is going to take about an hour to verify that information. So he was detained for an hour an arrested.

Bad things are actually happening and have happened but I hate it when no one vets incidents and posts these stories that on the surface seem egregious but then when the facts are presented it doesn't seem so bad being detained an hour to check on his identity.

Here is a case a little over 10 years ago:
Mark Lyttle, who was born in North Carolina and suffers from bipolar disorder and cognitive disabilities, was inexplicably referred to ICE in 2008 as an undocumented immigrant from Mexico even though he had never been to Mexico, shared no Mexican heritage, and spoke no Spanish. ICE detained him for 51 days, despite substantial evidence that he is a U.S. citizen. Nevertheless, ICE officials coerced Lyttle into signing a statement that he was from Mexico, and then put him in removal proceedings, where he was forced to defend himself without ever having the assistance of a lawyer.
Lyttle was ordered to be removed from the country in December 2008, transported to the Mexican border, and forced to disembark there and travel through Mexico on foot, with only $3 in his pocket. He spent the next 125 days wandering through Mexico, Honduras, and Nicaragua, sleeping in streets and shelters and enduring abuse and imprisonment because he had no identity documents or proof of citizenship.
It was only after Lyttle came across a sympathetic U.S. embassy official in Guatemala that he was able to secure a passport and return to the United States in April 2009. Even then, ICE officials at the Atlanta airport detained him for six days and attempted to remove him again. Only after the assistance of his family and a lawyer was Lyttle released and the case against him terminated...Lyttle will receive $175,000 for the suffering he endured after being detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), who deported him despite ample evidence that he was a U.S. citizen.

How many Mark Little's are happening today? That is what is scary to think about.

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Anonymous wrote:Because they are bullies attacking non violent civilians violently while hiding their ugly faces. Why act like thugs if you are not one?

You are pathetic.

[Anonymous]

This is a sad, scary country we live in now. It’s totally OK to jump people while wearing masks just because of their skin color. It’s their “job” to do this to people. If they don’t have proof on them, they might get sent to some third country, god knows where. What if that were you or a loved one? Think about that.

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Anonymous wrote:Why so much hate towards federal workers who are simply doing their jobs?

I understand the emotional sympathy when a day-laborer gets detained and sent back to Central America, but the law is clear: one must follow legal pathways to work lawfully in the USA.

How does the hate, targeting ICE, make any sense?

because urban elites feel they are entitled to cheap indentured servants.

who is going to take care of their special snowflakes?

[Anonymous]

For the millionth time: ICE should be able to pick up illegal aliens from state & local law enforcement agencies. But because these other agencies are often not allowed to cooperate with ICE, they need to resort to picking them up wherever they can find them.

Also, the utter stupidity of the Democrats is the reason these millions of illegal aliens are here in the first place. They cause a big mess, & then get fussy about how others clean up that mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the millionth time: ICE should be able to pick up illegal aliens from state & local law enforcement agencies. But because these other agencies are often not allowed to cooperate with ICE, they need to resort to picking them up wherever they can find them.

Also, the utter stupidity of the Democrats is the reason these millions of illegal aliens are here in the first place. They cause a big mess, & then get fussy about how others clean up that mess.

Oh wait, are you a “Biden deliberately let in millions of scary Mexicans in caravans” conspiracy theorist?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a sad, scary country we live in now. It’s totally OK to jump people while wearing masks just because of their skin color. It’s their “job” to do this to people. If they don’t have proof on them, they might get sent to some third country, god knows where. What if that were you or a loved one? Think about that.

It’s a job works program for people that could make it as mall cops or prison guards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the millionth time: ICE should be able to pick up illegal aliens from state & local law enforcement agencies. But because these other agencies are often not allowed to cooperate with ICE, they need to resort to picking them up wherever they can find them.

Also, the utter stupidity of the Democrats is the reason these millions of illegal aliens are here in the first place. They cause a big mess, & then get fussy about how others clean up that mess.

Exactly.
Only one Democrat had the balls to speak up while Biden allowed in millions of illegals. All the others were silent. Now it’s time to clean up Biden’s mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the millionth time: ICE should be able to pick up illegal aliens from state & local law enforcement agencies. But because these other agencies are often not allowed to cooperate with ICE, they need to resort to picking them up wherever they can find them.

Also, the utter stupidity of the Democrats is the reason these millions of illegal aliens are here in the first place. They cause a big mess, & then get fussy about how others clean up that mess.

Oh wait, are you a “Biden deliberately let in millions of scary Mexicans in caravans” conspiracy theorist?

Not just Mexicans. He allowed in people from all over the world with no vetting. And you seem to believe this didn’t happen.