ICE is merely enforcing laws passed by Congress and signed by our elected presidents

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Anonymous wrote:Why so much hate towards federal workers who are simply doing their jobs?

I understand the emotional sympathy when a day-laborer gets detained and sent back to Central America, but the law is clear: one must follow legal pathways to work lawfully in the USA.

How does the hate, targeting ICE, make any sense?

Not without due process.

Can't just kidnap people off the street without identifying yourself. That is not legal. Nice try.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the entire discussion calls for nuance, as a naturalized legal citizen, here’s my perspective.

People who have been residing in the U.S for 20+ years with no criminal record should have been offered a path to citizenship, to deport people who have lived here for 20-35 years is plain cruel. They could have asked them for 25% extra in taxes. Less than 20 years, deport because you have to agree to a number.

Now to be fair; As for ICE, law enforcement is a high strung, dangerous job. I think they are trying but sometimes people being deported also get very emotional and a charged situation is immediately created. Are there some legit bad guys in ICE? Yes, but majority are just doing a job. There’s just no easy way to go about the current orders that have been issued to them.

As with everything else, the goal wasn’t a rational, reasonable policy that could have been discussed as adults, this unnecessary misery was the point.

Also, this argument that “oh they broke the law when they came here illegally”, life isn’t black and white Infact 95% of the time it’s grey. If someone has been here for 20+ years and is a productive member of community then we should have shown compassion. Just my 2 cents.

Im not sure what to do about people who have been residing here undocumented or on temporary protected status who overstayed visas or who were undocumented.

But you need to consider there have been people who have been waiting over 20 years to legally migrate through family reunification. That is how long the waiting list is to sponsor certain types of relatives in order for them to legally migrate. Their family members are upset they played by the rules and people cut in front of them, many from their own countries.

Then once you say okay if you make it here 20 years you can stay, it encourages more undocumented migrants who then will wait 20 years to legally stay.

What absolutely would help would be for law enforcement to communicate with ice and not release people with convictions. ICE often goes to the last know address of a criminal alien then can legally ask for id’s from everyone in the apartment. So sometimes no one remotely related still lives there or it is a relative with no arrests or convictions then they get carted away.

I am 100% in favor of this common-sense measure. Why would anyone be opposed to this?

For the zillionth time, no one is opposed to deporting criminals.

All these sanctuary jurisdictions say otherwise.
They will not hold criminals in jail for ICE to pick up, and will not not notify ICE of their release.
They do this for FBI, DEA, Marshal Service, but not ICE.

IOW citizes will not do the work of ICE. ICE should do its own work. If ICE were compensating cities for doing its work, then we wouldn't be here, but since ICE isn't authorized to do that and the Congress wouldn't authorize it, you all scapegoat the cities. We already subsidize the red states enough without this nonsense.

Good grief. Nobody is asking the cities to do the work of ICE. All they want is to be INFORMED when they arrest an illegal FOR A CRIME THAT THEY HAVE COMMITTED and hold them until they can be picked up for detention INSTEAD OF LETTING THEM BACK IN THE STREETS.
Sanctuary cities are sanctuaries for criminal illegal aliens.

You are being extremely misleading. Most sanctuary policies cooperate with an ICE detainer if it is supported by a judicial warrant signed by a federal judge -- they might not if it is a detainer request from an ICE officer. And why should they??? We know ICE doesn't care about due process. They treat non criminals and non-violent criminals the same as convixted violent criminals. Why would anyone obey an order from an ICE officer?!

In any case, OPs question is why people are against ICE even thought ICE is "merely" following orders. Your comment is not relevant to the discussion because most people who take issue with ICE are not arguing about convicted criminals being deported! Has one person mentioned that issue? No, because people have no problem with a violent criminal being deported. The fact is, the majority of people being detained and deported are NOT convicted criminals, much less people convicted of violent crime.

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Anonymous wrote:Why so much hate towards federal workers who are simply doing their jobs?

I understand the emotional sympathy when a day-laborer gets detained and sent back to Central America, but the law is clear: one must follow legal pathways to work lawfully in the USA.

How does the hate, targeting ICE, make any sense?

The violations of due process
The racial profiling
The warrantless entries
The warrantless arrests
Enforcing immigration laws based on protected speech
Not displaying a badge or identifying themselves

Good cops don't do those things. This isn't rocket science, folks.

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Anonymous wrote:What part of the law authorizes ICE to conceal their faces and identities and to refuse to identify themselves or show warrants?

What part of the law authorizes ICE to use force and violence against people who are not being violent or in any other way directly endangering them?

What part of the law allows ICE to disappear 1200 people and not provide any details about it to their family members, attorneys, press, members of Congress etc?

What part of the law allows ICE to circumvent all laws and regulations in rapidly building a prison camp in a swamp?

How are they "merely following the law" OP? I don't get it.

You clearly have almost no understanding of how laws work.

Oh so you think police can do whatever they want, with no oversight, responsibility or accountability?

I think you are the one who doesn't understand how things work.

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This is one of the men the left is calling “Nazi” and the “Gestapo” and other ridiculous names.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the entire discussion calls for nuance, as a naturalized legal citizen, here’s my perspective.

People who have been residing in the U.S for 20+ years with no criminal record should have been offered a path to citizenship, to deport people who have lived here for 20-35 years is plain cruel. They could have asked them for 25% extra in taxes. Less than 20 years, deport because you have to agree to a number.

Now to be fair; As for ICE, law enforcement is a high strung, dangerous job. I think they are trying but sometimes people being deported also get very emotional and a charged situation is immediately created. Are there some legit bad guys in ICE? Yes, but majority are just doing a job. There’s just no easy way to go about the current orders that have been issued to them.

As with everything else, the goal wasn’t a rational, reasonable policy that could have been discussed as adults, this unnecessary misery was the point.

Also, this argument that “oh they broke the law when they came here illegally”, life isn’t black and white Infact 95% of the time it’s grey. If someone has been here for 20+ years and is a productive member of community then we should have shown compassion. Just my 2 cents.

Im not sure what to do about people who have been residing here undocumented or on temporary protected status who overstayed visas or who were undocumented.

But you need to consider there have been people who have been waiting over 20 years to legally migrate through family reunification. That is how long the waiting list is to sponsor certain types of relatives in order for them to legally migrate. Their family members are upset they played by the rules and people cut in front of them, many from their own countries.

Then once you say okay if you make it here 20 years you can stay, it encourages more undocumented migrants who then will wait 20 years to legally stay.

What absolutely would help would be for law enforcement to communicate with ice and not release people with convictions. ICE often goes to the last know address of a criminal alien then can legally ask for id’s from everyone in the apartment. So sometimes no one remotely related still lives there or it is a relative with no arrests or convictions then they get carted away.

I am 100% in favor of this common-sense measure. Why would anyone be opposed to this?

For the zillionth time, no one is opposed to deporting criminals.

All these sanctuary jurisdictions say otherwise.
They will not hold criminals in jail for ICE to pick up, and will not not notify ICE of their release.
They do this for FBI, DEA, Marshal Service, but not ICE.

IOW citizes will not do the work of ICE. ICE should do its own work. If ICE were compensating cities for doing its work, then we wouldn't be here, but since ICE isn't authorized to do that and the Congress wouldn't authorize it, you all scapegoat the cities. We already subsidize the red states enough without this nonsense.

Good grief. Nobody is asking the cities to do the work of ICE. All they want is to be INFORMED when they arrest an illegal FOR A CRIME THAT THEY HAVE COMMITTED and hold them until they can be picked up for detention INSTEAD OF LETTING THEM BACK IN THE STREETS.
Sanctuary cities are sanctuaries for criminal illegal aliens.

You are being extremely misleading. Most sanctuary policies cooperate with an ICE detainer if it is supported by a judicial warrant signed by a federal judge -- they might not if it is a detainer request from an ICE officer. And why should they??? We know ICE doesn't care about due process. They treat non criminals and non-violent criminals the same as convixted violent criminals. Why would anyone obey an order from an ICE officer?!

In any case, OPs question is why people are against ICE even thought ICE is "merely" following orders. Your comment is not relevant to the discussion because most people who take issue with ICE are not arguing about convicted criminals being deported! Has one person mentioned that issue? No, because people have no problem with a violent criminal being deported. The fact is, the majority of people being detained and deported are NOT convicted criminals, much less people convicted of violent crime.

If a local jurisdiction has an illegal alien in custody for a crime - even if it’s a “small” crime like DUI or theft - why in the hell would they not choose to turn them over to ICE? It makes NO sense. Small crimes lead to bigger crimes as we have seen again and again and again. Letting them back in the streets does NOTHING to keep the community safe.

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Local Police Chief Tears Into ICE for Exposing His Officers to Tear Gas--Opening Criminal Investigations

"A police chief on the edge of Chicago said Tuesday that his officers have been repeatedly exposed to tear gas deployed by federal agents, as he announced that his department had opened three criminal investigations into U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Speaking alongside other local leaders, Broadview Police Chief Thomas Mills said the situation that had unfolded at an ICE detention facility in his village had created a “dangerous situation” for the community and first responders.

“As a long-time police officer of 37 years, I was verbally assaulted on September 12 while being on the scene ensuring everyone’s First Amendment rights were protected,” Mills said. “The ICE agents were doing their operation, our officers were there, and one of the agents basically told me I was a fascist, and I was not doing my job, neither were my officers."

https://www.newsweek.com/illinois-police-chief-ice-investigations-broadview-tear-gas-10807304

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Anonymous wrote:What part of the law authorizes ICE to conceal their faces and identities and to refuse to identify themselves or show warrants?

What part of the law authorizes ICE to use force and violence against people who are not being violent or in any other way directly endangering them?

What part of the law allows ICE to disappear 1200 people and not provide any details about it to their family members, attorneys, press, members of Congress etc?

What part of the law allows ICE to circumvent all laws and regulations in rapidly building a prison camp in a swamp?

How are they "merely following the law" OP? I don't get it.

You clearly have almost no understanding of how laws work.

Oh so you think police can do whatever they want, with no oversight, responsibility or accountability?

I think you are the one who doesn't understand how things work.

When it comes to immigration ICE can do all sorts of things regular cops can't. That’s due to congress, so many of the things we think of as due process don't apply. For example they don't have to appear before a judge under expedited removal and don't have a right to an attorney.

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Counterpoint

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ICE is arresting legal immigrants and even some US citizens.

And based on first statement, Biden followed the immigration laws. Trump has not. Immigration laws are made by Congress, not the president.

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Counterpoint

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Anonymous wrote:A US citizen alleges he was improperly arrested and detained twice by immigration officers as they targeted Latino workers at Alabama construction sites, claims they initially rebuffed his offers to prove legal status -- new proposed class action in federal court

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-09-30/us-citizen-alleges-wrongful-arrests-in-dhs-immigration-sweeps?srnd=undefined

"but we were merely enforcing the laws"

Nope, you are profiling people, many of whom are natural born Americans, based on appearances.

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Anonymous wrote:Counterpoint

MAGA: "TheY ArENt ArReStinG US ciTIzeNS!!!!11!!!"

Yes they are. Shut up already and be embarrassed for being wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Local Police Chief Tears Into ICE for Exposing His Officers to Tear Gas--Opening Criminal Investigations

"A police chief on the edge of Chicago said Tuesday that his officers have been repeatedly exposed to tear gas deployed by federal agents, as he announced that his department had opened three criminal investigations into U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Speaking alongside other local leaders, Broadview Police Chief Thomas Mills said the situation that had unfolded at an ICE detention facility in his village had created a “dangerous situation” for the community and first responders.

“As a long-time police officer of 37 years, I was verbally assaulted on September 12 while being on the scene ensuring everyone’s First Amendment rights were protected,” Mills said. “The ICE agents were doing their operation, our officers were there, and one of the agents basically told me I was a fascist, and I was not doing my job, neither were my officers."

https://www.newsweek.com/illinois-police-chief-ice-investigations-broadview-tear-gas-10807304

+1 why don't basic police standards apply to them? They really seem horribly trained, like we hired the worst people and threw them into the job. Technically they are still required to have " reasonable" use of force. I have seen too many videos that far exceed this. The lack of training also puts the ICE officers at risk of both criminal arrest and civil lawsuits.

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MAGA loves violent, incompetent, poorly trained cops.