John Oliver slams Democrats who think transgender people lost them the election

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This man is a fool screaming into the wind. He has been peddling the transgender agenda for a long time in the hopes of influencing public opinion, but Americans aren't buying it. The transgender movement is largely over and repudiated, whether or not their servants in the media realize it. When Trump is through, a strong framework of laws will be in place to ensure the transgender march through the institutions cannot resume.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think being seen as the party who wants taxpayers to fund gender affirming care for undocumented immigrants and prison inmates or who favors transgender women competing in women’s sports helps Democrats politically, and it probably does hurt them to some degree, but this was not near the top of the list when voters were polled on which issues were most important to them. I don’t think this is why Kamala lost.

This is incorrect. It was in the top 3 issues for key voting groups and the top issue for swine voters specifically.
https://blueprint2024.com/polling/why-trump-reasons-11-8/
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Anonymous wrote:Going on Joe Rogan isn’t flinging sh!t, or fighting a street fight with nuclear bombs.

Kamala’s last major speech of the election was almost entirely about Trump being a nazi/Hitler/fascist danger to America, how is that her not flinging sh!t?

And what does that have to do with what John Oliver said?


Joe Rogan isn’t where she needed to be. That’s not where Democrats are. She should have gone on left wing podcasts and streams.

The street fight is filling the airwaves with anti-trans ads which I thought was obvious given the topic. She spent millions on concerts. She should have had three ads talking about how Trump wants to be king, J6, talking up patriotism and voting for Trump isn’t that, or even worse for every Trump ad. If there was a Trump ad during a football game, she should have bought three ads. Talk about how Republicans only care about the debt when democrats are in power and we have so much debt now and Trump wants to cut taxes. She should have eviserated him.

She lost. So she needed to do something differently.
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Anonymous wrote:This man is a fool screaming into the wind. He has been peddling the transgender agenda for a long time in the hopes of influencing public opinion, but Americans aren't buying it. The transgender movement is largely over and repudiated, whether or not their servants in the media realize it. When Trump is through, a strong framework of laws will be in place to ensure the transgender march through the institutions cannot resume.


That’s why he was elected.

Americans don’t want this.
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Dei and trans stuff is too much for Americans, those things need to be removed and that's why Kamala lost
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Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.


So what do you think the rules should be? Make a decision. I support only biological girls in girls sports myself.
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Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.


One issue is that it’s an example of liberals demanding that everyone pretend that something that isn’t true units true. “Trans women are women and if you don’t say that you are a bigot!” Well no, actually, they aren’t, and it’s sort of Maoist to try to intimidate people to go along with a falsehood. Like that episode of star trek TNG where they try to make Picard say “there are five lights” when there are four (or the 1984 chapter they riffed). Sorry, no, the public refuses to let the left break their will.
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AOC took her “preferred pronouns” off. Time to end that virtue signaling.
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He’s right and he’s wrong. It’s not just one thing, it’s all of the things like that, that turned voters off. Dems need to stop focusing on fringe issues and letting them dominate the online discourse—too many Dems including Oliver, continue tot are the bait and spend too much time expressing outrage about issues very few people care about.
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Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.


You think the debate regarding placing more importance on feelings of biological men over biological women is bizarre? Not very feminist of you.
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Democrats lost.

They voted against the perception that Dems prioritize fringe issues and criticize/cancel anyone who doesn’t agree.

They voted against Democrats and the handouts given to newly arrived immigrants.

They voted against all sorts of things that Dems should have acknowledged and shifted messaging on.

We suck at messaging.

My two cents: the racial reckoning that needed to happen post-George Floyd went waaaaay too far, centering everything in racism. The end result was a new kind of cancel culture that essentially divided us instead of uniting us. And here we are: weeks away from another Trump administration.

John Oliver is just a comedian who gets paid to entertain. He’s not a brilliant political strategist. Bill Maher has been saying what Dem campaign managers and voters need to wrap their head around.
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I live in a blue area (Chicago) and know a shocking number of moms who voted Trump, keeping it secret from their die-hardDem parents, because of this! They said older people don't see it because they don't have young kids and aren't exposed to the craziness.
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Anonymous wrote:Yep - anyone with a kid in middle or high school knows that while yes, while the number of transgender students may be small it is most definitely pervasive. It’s not a small issue. It can’t be avoided by those who don’t fit the profile of being trans (which, let’s face it, is mostly white girls on the autism spectrum/have other mental health issues/quirky in some way or is a theater kid).



Why do you need to “avoid” the issue of its so small? Let people live their lives. Stop obsessing over it and you’ll stop noticing it.

I don't look at trans people any differently than anyone else. What is the big deal? All you’re being asked to do is not discriminate or bully them. Is that really too much to ask?


DP. Asking that biological girls/women only compete with other biological girls/women is in no way "bullying or discriminating" - against anyone. It's simple fairness. There is no way a female can physically compete with a biological male. And by not acknowledging this, you are denying science - simple as that.


+100 -- but it's ok to bully/use peer pressure for other students to using pronouns they/them to try and normalize it??


Ding ding ding. Everyone start wearing a Mao suit to signal your virtue!
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