John Oliver slams Democrats who think transgender people lost them the election

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If you're "pointing the blame at one specific demographic" for Democrats' losses in last week's elections, you're gravely "missing the mark," according to John Oliver.

The comedian tackled Kamala Harris' defeat during the most recent episode of Last Week Tonight, calling out supposed progressives who have turned against transgender people and blamed so-called "woke" issues for Donald Trump's win.

"It's telling how quickly some are jumping to predetermined conclusions that don't match the campaign that just wrapped up," Oliver said. "For instance, some Democrats are loudly claiming that the party needs to move to the center."

The host then referenced comments from New York congressman Tom Suozzi, a Democrat, who recently argued that "the Democrats have to stop pandering to the far left ... I don't want to discriminate against anybody, but I don't think biological boys should be playing in girls' sports." Other Democratic lawmakers have made similar claims in the wake of Harris' loss.

https://www.tiktok.com/@lastweektonighthbo/video/7437190944551669035


If you watch the clip, he is very forcefully rejecting the argument Suozzi made.


And he is forcefully wrong.

Anyone with school-aged kids knows this is not a small issue. It’s pervasive. Its in the schools, its in the doctors office, its everytime I fill out a form and get 13 choices for my child’s gender. I know I’m not the only mom who switched my vote to republican this year over it.


Just as one example, there are 5th graders at my kid’s school who identify as wolves and the other kids get in trouble if they use the term “furry” rather than “therian.” Meanwhile the few black kids at the school have been called racial slurs and rarely does anyone get in trouble…the admin seems totally clueless it’s even happening. This is in a purple state, with many Trump voters.

The sad and complicated truth, from someone who has been teaching 17 years, is that Trumpism has empowered kids and adults to say the “n-word” again. It disgusts me. It’s also absolutely true that the gender issue is pervasive, and Dems look dumb when they deny it. Another example…we have a HS state champion runner who is a trans girl, who keeps winning big, even though when she ran with the boys team she didn’t even place. Is it a huge deal to me personally? No. Would I vote for Trump because of it? No way.

But it IS happening and when Dems deny that it is, they piss people off. Plain and simple.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/john-oliver-democrats-trans-election#toggle-gdpr

If you're "pointing the blame at one specific demographic" for Democrats' losses in last week's elections, you're gravely "missing the mark," according to John Oliver.

The comedian tackled Kamala Harris' defeat during the most recent episode of Last Week Tonight, calling out supposed progressives who have turned against transgender people and blamed so-called "woke" issues for Donald Trump's win.

"It's telling how quickly some are jumping to predetermined conclusions that don't match the campaign that just wrapped up," Oliver said. "For instance, some Democrats are loudly claiming that the party needs to move to the center."

The host then referenced comments from New York congressman Tom Suozzi, a Democrat, who recently argued that "the Democrats have to stop pandering to the far left ... I don't want to discriminate against anybody, but I don't think biological boys should be playing in girls' sports." Other Democratic lawmakers have made similar claims in the wake of Harris' loss.

https://www.tiktok.com/@lastweektonighthbo/video/7437190944551669035


If you watch the clip, he is very forcefully rejecting the argument Suozzi made.


And he is forcefully wrong.

Anyone with school-aged kids knows this is not a small issue. It’s pervasive. Its in the schools, its in the doctors office, its everytime I fill out a form and get 13 choices for my child’s gender. I know I’m not the only mom who switched my vote to republican this year over it.


Just as one example, there are 5th graders at my kid’s school who identify as wolves and the other kids get in trouble if they use the term “furry” rather than “therian.” Meanwhile the few black kids at the school have been called racial slurs and rarely does anyone get in trouble…the admin seems totally clueless it’s even happening. This is in a purple state, with many Trump voters.

The sad and complicated truth, from someone who has been teaching 17 years, is that Trumpism has empowered kids and adults to say the “n-word” again. It disgusts me. It’s also absolutely true that the gender issue is pervasive, and Dems look dumb when they deny it. Another example…we have a HS state champion runner who is a trans girl, who keeps winning big, even though when she ran with the boys team she didn’t even place. Is it a huge deal to me personally? No. Would I vote for Trump because of it? No way.

But it IS happening and when Dems deny that it is, they piss people off. Plain and simple.


How’s that pretzel you got yourself into trying to make this argument? Richard Spencer endorsed Kamala, moron. It’s the democrats who want to judge everyone on skin color and “identity”. If this is happening it’s the definition of f*** around and find out
Anonymous
If Trump supporters started demanding that everyone agree that “elves are real,” holding “elf lives matter” rallies, and that they put “Elves are real” in their email signatures, and if they then tried to demonize and ostracize anyone who didn’t go along with that, do you see how that could be really off-putting to most people?

And for people who are cattle-like here followers and went along with that and put signs in their front yards saying “in this house we believe in Elven rights”, don’t you think those people would then be receptive to whatever else insane thing the government wanted to do?
Anonymous
Hard to imagine anyone with a dumber take on politics than John Oliver.

Maybe the ladies on the View.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I live in a blue area (Chicago) and know a shocking number of moms who voted Trump, keeping it secret from their die-hardDem parents, because of this! They said older people don't see it because they don't have young kids and aren't exposed to the craziness.


I would never ever vote for Trump but in my own household I have had very heated arguments about the fact that my lived experience as a biological woman is not the same as that of my white male at birth, transitioned at 40, female friend. We are on the same team, but we are not the same and it is incredibly damaging to women who are born into the patriarchy to suggest so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/john-oliver-democrats-trans-election#toggle-gdpr

If you're "pointing the blame at one specific demographic" for Democrats' losses in last week's elections, you're gravely "missing the mark," according to John Oliver.

The comedian tackled Kamala Harris' defeat during the most recent episode of Last Week Tonight, calling out supposed progressives who have turned against transgender people and blamed so-called "woke" issues for Donald Trump's win.

"It's telling how quickly some are jumping to predetermined conclusions that don't match the campaign that just wrapped up," Oliver said. "For instance, some Democrats are loudly claiming that the party needs to move to the center."

The host then referenced comments from New York congressman Tom Suozzi, a Democrat, who recently argued that "the Democrats have to stop pandering to the far left ... I don't want to discriminate against anybody, but I don't think biological boys should be playing in girls' sports." Other Democratic lawmakers have made similar claims in the wake of Harris' loss.

https://www.tiktok.com/@lastweektonighthbo/video/7437190944551669035


If you watch the clip, he is very forcefully rejecting the argument Suozzi made.


And he is forcefully wrong.

Anyone with school-aged kids knows this is not a small issue. It’s pervasive. Its in the schools, its in the doctors office, its everytime I fill out a form and get 13 choices for my child’s gender. I know I’m not the only mom who switched my vote to republican this year over it.


Just as one example, there are 5th graders at my kid’s school who identify as wolves and the other kids get in trouble if they use the term “furry” rather than “therian.” Meanwhile the few black kids at the school have been called racial slurs and rarely does anyone get in trouble…the admin seems totally clueless it’s even happening. This is in a purple state, with many Trump voters.

The sad and complicated truth, from someone who has been teaching 17 years, is that Trumpism has empowered kids and adults to say the “n-word” again. It disgusts me. It’s also absolutely true that the gender issue is pervasive, and Dems look dumb when they deny it. Another example…we have a HS state champion runner who is a trans girl, who keeps winning big, even though when she ran with the boys team she didn’t even place. Is it a huge deal to me personally? No. Would I vote for Trump because of it? No way.

But it IS happening and when Dems deny that it is, they piss people off. Plain and simple.



What state?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hard to imagine anyone with a dumber take on politics than John Oliver.

Maybe the ladies on the View.”

Don’t disrespect the ladies on The View. They did the most significant interview that Harris faced all campaign by getting her to say that “nothing comes to mind” when asked what she’d do differently than Biden.

The question I want an answer to is why the UK doesn’t give Americans shows on the BBC to talk about their politics.
Anonymous
We spent weeks debating “women vs. pregnant people” when we should have been out there fighting about packing the courts to restore roe.

Face it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Yep - anyone with a kid in middle or high school knows that while yes, while the number of transgender students may be small it is most definitely pervasive. It’s not a small issue. It can’t be avoided by those who don’t fit the profile of being trans (which, let’s face it, is mostly white girls on the autism spectrum/have other mental health issues/quirky in some way or is a theater kid).



Why do you need to “avoid” the issue of its so small? Let people live their lives. Stop obsessing over it and you’ll stop noticing it.

I don't look at trans people any differently than anyone else. What is the big deal? All you’re being asked to do is not discriminate or bully them. Is that really too much to ask?


Because it is not small, when elementary students and minor children are asked for their pronouns, it shows that it is everywhere and cannot be ignored. The left has allowed tyranny by a small, tiny fraction of the minority.

Stop making people choose pronouns and their preferred gender on all forms if it is such a small population.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.


Not a young woman's athletic scholarship depends on pitching on the softball team or the university allowing a trans man to take your place and scholarship because they can't compete with non-trans men.
Anonymous
I think I am very tired of men today.

Men lost us this election if we are going by the numbers. And yet, here the rest of us are pitting ourselves against eachother again.

We should be asking what’s wrong with men but we won’t. Too hard to confront.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.


Not a young woman's athletic scholarship depends on pitching on the softball team or the university allowing a trans man to take your place and scholarship because they can't compete with non-trans men.


Kamala voter and I agree—the fact that this rarely happens is totally irrelevant to a low info voter. They don’t like it, people have to stop defending it and not be afraid to say that it’s wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/john-oliver-democrats-trans-election#toggle-gdpr

If you're "pointing the blame at one specific demographic" for Democrats' losses in last week's elections, you're gravely "missing the mark," according to John Oliver.

The comedian tackled Kamala Harris' defeat during the most recent episode of Last Week Tonight, calling out supposed progressives who have turned against transgender people and blamed so-called "woke" issues for Donald Trump's win.

"It's telling how quickly some are jumping to predetermined conclusions that don't match the campaign that just wrapped up," Oliver said. "For instance, some Democrats are loudly claiming that the party needs to move to the center."

The host then referenced comments from New York congressman Tom Suozzi, a Democrat, who recently argued that "the Democrats have to stop pandering to the far left ... I don't want to discriminate against anybody, but I don't think biological boys should be playing in girls' sports." Other Democratic lawmakers have made similar claims in the wake of Harris' loss.

https://www.tiktok.com/@lastweektonighthbo/video/7437190944551669035


If you watch the clip, he is very forcefully rejecting the argument Suozzi made.


And he is forcefully wrong.

Anyone with school-aged kids knows this is not a small issue. It’s pervasive. Its in the schools, its in the doctors office, its everytime I fill out a form and get 13 choices for my child’s gender. I know I’m not the only mom who switched my vote to republican this year over it.


Just as one example, there are 5th graders at my kid’s school who identify as wolves and the other kids get in trouble if they use the term “furry” rather than “therian.” Meanwhile the few black kids at the school have been called racial slurs and rarely does anyone get in trouble…the admin seems totally clueless it’s even happening. This is in a purple state, with many Trump voters.

The sad and complicated truth, from someone who has been teaching 17 years, is that Trumpism has empowered kids and adults to say the “n-word” again. It disgusts me. It’s also absolutely true that the gender issue is pervasive, and Dems look dumb when they deny it. Another example…we have a HS state champion runner who is a trans girl, who keeps winning big, even though when she ran with the boys team she didn’t even place. Is it a huge deal to me personally? No. Would I vote for Trump because of it? No way.

But it IS happening and when Dems deny that it is, they piss people off. Plain and simple.


Thank you for sharing this. I think the issue is that the people running the campaign assumed they knew what people were thinking/feeling. I did not vote for Trump but for whatever reason he and his team seem to have a much better pulse on voter sentiment and priorities. I am sure Dems polled and polled, but they also needed to be out there talking to people to gleam the nuances of what specifically are bothering people. For example, on inflation: Instead of tell people that the economy was in great shape due to Bidenomics (horrible term), acknowledge that it's a real issue and dig in by ask why and where do people feel the pain? likely their grocery bill. then follow that up with a question about what you'd want an Administration to do? Pressure the Fed to keep i-rates high, pump less $$ into the economy? go after grocery stores for price gorging, increase SNAP benefits, etc etc.

In terms of the Trans issue, the socio emotional teachings in school curriculums do not bother me, but I have seen some bad implementation due to poor teacher training and taking time away from core academic subjects. For example, I don't mind including my pronouns in written communications at all, but when speaking and introducing myself I think it wastes time and is silly.

Another poster on a different thread mentioned she is a Black woman who campaigned for the Dems and they kept wanting to send her to socio-economically disadvantaged neighborhoods. But she has multiple degrees and is an immigrate from an African nation. She also canvassed for the GOP and they sent her to speak to immigrant communities which was more aligned with her experience. Basically, the Dems just saw her as "Black" rather than a person with unique experiences. That is a huge problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.


Not a young woman's athletic scholarship depends on pitching on the softball team or the university allowing a trans man to take your place and scholarship because they can't compete with non-trans men.


Kamala voter and I agree—the fact that this rarely happens is totally irrelevant to a low info voter. They don’t like it, people have to stop defending it and not be afraid to say that it’s wrong.


-says the low information voter
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/john-oliver-democrats-trans-election#toggle-gdpr

If you're "pointing the blame at one specific demographic" for Democrats' losses in last week's elections, you're gravely "missing the mark," according to John Oliver.

The comedian tackled Kamala Harris' defeat during the most recent episode of Last Week Tonight, calling out supposed progressives who have turned against transgender people and blamed so-called "woke" issues for Donald Trump's win.

"It's telling how quickly some are jumping to predetermined conclusions that don't match the campaign that just wrapped up," Oliver said. "For instance, some Democrats are loudly claiming that the party needs to move to the center."

The host then referenced comments from New York congressman Tom Suozzi, a Democrat, who recently argued that "the Democrats have to stop pandering to the far left ... I don't want to discriminate against anybody, but I don't think biological boys should be playing in girls' sports." Other Democratic lawmakers have made similar claims in the wake of Harris' loss.

https://www.tiktok.com/@lastweektonighthbo/video/7437190944551669035


If you watch the clip, he is very forcefully rejecting the argument Suozzi made.


And he is forcefully wrong.

Anyone with school-aged kids knows this is not a small issue. It’s pervasive. Its in the schools, its in the doctors office, its everytime I fill out a form and get 13 choices for my child’s gender. I know I’m not the only mom who switched my vote to republican this year over it.


Just as one example, there are 5th graders at my kid’s school who identify as wolves and the other kids get in trouble if they use the term “furry” rather than “therian.” Meanwhile the few black kids at the school have been called racial slurs and rarely does anyone get in trouble…the admin seems totally clueless it’s even happening. This is in a purple state, with many Trump voters.

The sad and complicated truth, from someone who has been teaching 17 years, is that Trumpism has empowered kids and adults to say the “n-word” again. It disgusts me. It’s also absolutely true that the gender issue is pervasive, and Dems look dumb when they deny it. Another example…we have a HS state champion runner who is a trans girl, who keeps winning big, even though when she ran with the boys team she didn’t even place. Is it a huge deal to me personally? No. Would I vote for Trump because of it? No way.

But it IS happening and when Dems deny that it is, they piss people off. Plain and simple.


Have you ever listened to rap music? they say the n word constantly during their songs.

That’s what kids listen to.
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