John Oliver slams Democrats who think transgender people lost them the election

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Anonymous wrote:Democrat who voted for Harris. I am for transgender rights for adults, it does get a bit more tricky for me for surgeries for kids, but I support puberty blockers.


Are you aware of the lifelong effects of puberty blockers on cognition, bone density and sexual function in adulthood?

https://accpjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jac5.1691
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:More likely what cost Democrats the election was the protest voting. Millions of ballots had nobody selected for President and Democrats downballot

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/us-trump-election-gaza-effect-voting-boycott-harris


This article has no evidence to back up its assertion beyond the fact that down ballot, people voted for Dem in some areas. And its claim that Trump didn’t match his 2020 is false. He is up to 76 million and counting.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't think trans people lost us the election, they are just people. They exist. More power to them.

But I think the red guard insistence on gender doctrine was one of a few social issues, probably amplified by bots, that pushed liberals into rhetorical traps where they had to deny logic and biology so as not to look "hateful."

BLM, "defund the police," and Gaza are the other big ones. They were inspired by by good intentions. That did not mean the people pushing the most extreme versions of them had good intentions.



Most reasonable post yet.

I’m concerned about the actual people now, considering the level of vitriol. Just because you say “he won, the movement is over”—it isn’t going to make them go back to their original pronouns and put on business suits and pretty dresses. My teen DD has several friends who don’t conform to gender norms and I’m concerned that people will now feel emboldened to hassle them, or worse, when they’re out and about. These are seriously some of the kindest, most harmless humans I can imagine.


These teens are being done no favors by adults and medical professionals lying to them that they can change their sex.

https://youtu.be/DtItMuCW0vI?si=tS62AGwoFEtAxIdm

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Anonymous wrote:How stupid are you guys. You just lost an election to an orange baboon over this and you're still fighting it.


As much as cultural issues played a role, Harris lost because of her link to the Biden economy and its inflation, and immigration policy.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a liberal who doesn’t think trans kids should play sports on their identified sex team, but my god, I’d never vote for president over it one way or the other. You settle this with lawsuits and locally - or at least after you have the adult in office. Now a toddler will be in charge and the chaos clown show is on. Lord help us all.


This is the part you don't get. 70% of the US population tried telling democrats that this needed to stop. We fought and were called bigots, women were labeled TERFs.

So we did what Julie Roberts told us: we went to the privacy of the ballot box to fix it. Being nice didn't work, so now you get the cudgel.


Np- Sweetums, I don’t think you understand who is actually about to get the cudgel.
Xo,
Democrat about to get a huge tax break


It’s actually pretty ironic when you think about it. The liberal DC “middle class” are about to get richer. Sorry, more middle classer.
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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.


They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.


Ridiculous hyperbole.


Well then what do you want?


- Leave our children alone
- No more forced pronoun bullshit
- Trust science - men cannot become women
- Understand biology - zero males in female spaces and get your hands off our Title IX
- Stop trying to appropriate the word and meaning of what it is to be a woman.
- Stop demanding that we participate and affirm whatever you have going on.
- And for the love of god, stop trying to make CIS happen. I am not a subcategory of my sex.


I agree with some of this but men can be women if they choose and vice versa. That's their personal choice and none of your business.

Also, what's with the pronoun concern? That's a fading trend and why should you care if someone prefers she or he? Address people however you feel is appropriate and it's they can choose if or when to respond.

You're lumping in invalid concerns about personal choices people make that don't infringe on the rights of others with valid concerns about situations where the rights of many are comprised by the personal choices of few.


That you believe the safety and fairness of Title IX is simply an invalid concern is why Trump won. A personal choice that directly affects my rights as a woman is my business.


Are you currently competing in high school or college sports? Which one?


Most of us have daughters and / or use public locker rooms. All issues are women’s issues including this. We will not be silenced by men pretending.


You know it's mostly women trying to do the silencing, right?


False. It is not women hurling death and rape threats to women like JK Rowling.


True, that is toxic masculinity in a dress. Those women, aka allies, are running interference and are just as bad.
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Anonymous wrote:Democrat who voted for Harris. I am for transgender rights for adults, it does get a bit more tricky for me for surgeries for kids, but I support puberty blockers.


Are you aware of the lifelong effects of puberty blockers on cognition, bone density and sexual function in adulthood?

https://accpjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jac5.1691


Yep, and that is for a doctor, child and their guardians to decide. Many treatments have side effects that parents need to weigh for a number of diseases and other health issues
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Anonymous wrote:Democrat who voted for Harris. I am for transgender rights for adults, it does get a bit more tricky for me for surgeries for kids, but I support puberty blockers.


Are you aware of the lifelong effects of puberty blockers on cognition, bone density and sexual function in adulthood?

https://accpjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jac5.1691


Yep, and that is for a doctor, child and their guardians to decide. Many treatments have side effects that parents need to weigh for a number of diseases and other health issues


We regulate all kinds of treatments - especially those for whom a minor can’t arguably consent. We have an entire FDA for regulation purposes. There a reason European countries have put a hold on these treatments. Lack of efficacy and side effects being the main ones.
Anonymous
Since when do we allow COMEDIANS tell us how to view intellectual matters.

Come on, people. Comedians have their place, and it ain't telling us how to think or how to analyze what went wrong.

What went wrong is crystal clear obvious to anyone who is thinking rationally.
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Anonymous wrote:Since when do we allow COMEDIANS tell us how to view intellectual matters.

Come on, people. Comedians have their place, and it ain't telling us how to think or how to analyze what went wrong.

What went wrong is crystal clear obvious to anyone who is thinking rationally.


Yup. Idiots believed misinformation.
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Anonymous wrote:Democrat who voted for Harris. I am for transgender rights for adults, it does get a bit more tricky for me for surgeries for kids, but I support puberty blockers.


Are you aware of the lifelong effects of puberty blockers on cognition, bone density and sexual function in adulthood?

https://accpjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jac5.1691


Yep, and that is for a doctor, child and their guardians to decide. Many treatments have side effects that parents need to weigh for a number of diseases and other health issues


And doctors aren’t immune from societal pressure. That’s why women are bleeding out in parking lots.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.


This whole post is way off the mark. Democrats lost the election for "multiple reasons" -- that being said, one of the reasons is this:

A culmination of cancel culture, extremist DEI and woke culture, pronoun nonsense, social constructs not based on science.

I am disgusted by all the cancel culture, especially in regards to JK Rowling and I actually am a bigger fan of hers simply because she continues to stand her ground. Good for her! Recent Article below - I'm so proud of her.
https://www.newsweek.com/jk-rowling-politics-...omens-rights-1983654

They lost the election because people don't like this - and while too scared to voice it for fear of career damage and society cancelling - they were not scared to vote [or not vote or vote third party] accordingly and that's a big reason Trump won.



I agree with this. I’m wondering if the ‘new’ or the staunch democrats don’t realize how insane it has gotten in a few short years. No, I don’t want any boy or man who feels like a woman today, because they feel ‘gender fluid’ to walk into a girls bathroom, or locker room as they please, especially not in schools and colleges. And a host of other things. Before you are fully transitioned you have no place anywhere designated solely for girls, especially not a sports team.
“Gender affirming surgery for minors”. I can’t even believe this is what it has come to. It is impossible that such a large percentage of the population has gender issues. It honestly feels like it’s 10% or more of a school population in a progressive area. It should be less than half a percent. Everyone’s child is suddenly changing their gender when this is a time when it’s normal for kids to explore, how about just fostering true anti-bullying environment without adults jumping in and steering kids into changing their name and pronoun and offering hormones?

We truly have bigger, existential problems which are having a huge impact on a very large number of people, and the democrats, including those I voted for, are still not listening and learning. If you feel that you can’t speak openly to your own chosen political group without getting viscously attacked, something is severely wrong with that political group. Interestingly, this applies to both parties… just this time, it was the downfall for one.
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