Held back but gifted, is this frowned upon?

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Anonymous wrote:Do what is best for your kid. The rest is noise.

I couldn’t agree more

You couldn’t agree more with what is best for you; not you child.

It’s better for your child if another child doesn’t get what they need. You do the same for your child. My child > your child. If it’s ok for you, it’s ok for me.

It’s better for you.

In what way? Be specific. Since you don’t me at all this ought to be fun.

Dp

Tell us the ways since you are for it. You wouldn’t do it if it didn’t benefit you.

I wouldn’t? You all can’t seem to name one reason so you’re like “tell me the reason.” Morons.

You don’t need to sign your name at the end of your comments.
Tell us the reasons, you’re the one who agrees with it. There must be “reasons.”

Tell us the reasons? Who is demanding answers now? You’re so smart I thought you had it all figured out. Guess not. Do you even have kids or do you just troll for fun?

You ask a lot of questions when you aren’t getting your way.

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Anonymous wrote:Do what is best for your kid. The rest is noise.

I couldn’t agree more

You couldn’t agree more with what is best for you; not you child.

It’s better for your child if another child doesn’t get what they need. You do the same for your child. My child > your child. If it’s ok for you, it’s ok for me.

It’s better for you.

In what way? Be specific. Since you don’t me at all this ought to be fun.

Dp

Tell us the ways since you are for it. You wouldn’t do it if it didn’t benefit you.

I wouldn’t? You all can’t seem to name one reason so you’re like “tell me the reason.” Morons.

You don’t need to sign your name at the end of your comments.
Tell us the reasons, you’re the one who agrees with it. There must be “reasons.”

Tell us the reasons? Who is demanding answers now? You’re so smart I thought you had it all figured out. Guess not. Do you even have kids or do you just troll for fun?

You ask a lot of questions when you aren’t getting your way.

My way? You’re so funny. You have nothing, demand answers, and make nonsensical posts.

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Anonymous wrote:Do what is best for your kid. The rest is noise.

I couldn’t agree more

You couldn’t agree more with what is best for you; not you child.

It’s better for your child if another child doesn’t get what they need. You do the same for your child. My child > your child. If it’s ok for you, it’s ok for me.

It’s better for you.

In what way? Be specific. Since you don’t me at all this ought to be fun.

Dp

Tell us the ways since you are for it. You wouldn’t do it if it didn’t benefit you.

I wouldn’t? You all can’t seem to name one reason so you’re like “tell me the reason.” Morons.

You don’t need to sign your name at the end of your comments.
Tell us the reasons, you’re the one who agrees with it. There must be “reasons.”

Tell us the reasons? Who is demanding answers now? You’re so smart I thought you had it all figured out. Guess not. Do you even have kids or do you just troll for fun?

You ask a lot of questions when you aren’t getting your way.

My way? You’re so funny. You have nothing, demand answers, and make nonsensical posts.

Reread your posts asking questions and saying to be specific, gaslighting hypocrite.

[Anonymous]

I only held back when my child was socially immature and in concert with her preK teachers. She’s done very well since then. I’d never hold back a gifted child as I’d be focused on making sure he or she could thrive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I only held back when my child was socially immature and in concert with her preK teachers. She’s done very well since then. I’d never hold back a gifted child as I’d be focused on making sure he or she could thrive.

Prek aged children are all socially immature. Every single one of them.
Prek teachers are not a reliable source to recommend this.

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Anonymous wrote:I only held back when my child was socially immature and in concert with her preK teachers. She’s done very well since then. I’d never hold back a gifted child as I’d be focused on making sure he or she could thrive.

Lol! My child’s PreK teacher suggested repeating. Same ridiculous abstract reason-“socially immature.” I refused and knew this was just a thoughtless and lazy “reason” that is thrown around for convenience.
Years later, his gpa very high is and he thriving and is in a leadership role.
The PreK teacher was profoundly wrong and so is yours.

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prek teachers say this a lot! it is a money grab

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OP no... redshirters who are asking the teachers how they are 'differentiating' to meet their 1+ year older child where they are.... no. Where they are is a grade lower than they should be, by your choice.

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I think it’s fine but I wouldn’t mention it

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Anonymous wrote:You are nuts

Such an elegant and responsive post!

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Anonymous wrote:prek teachers say this a lot! it is a money grab

Funny how prek teachers say this about new schools their graduates will go to since some preschools don’t even have a prekindergarten. But I'm sure you know best! People really think they have a say in others decisions here. The public school and private school crowds have very little in common.

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Anonymous wrote:At our school gifted testing is age normed to cover fur the age range issue..but if offered a spot I think it's fine to accept.

Age norm is difficult to cover or adjust for in early elementary, sometimes how a student performs on a test has less to do with their natural intelligence and more to do with understanding of test/technology

No, that's what age normed means, they account for that.

Still doesn’t account for kids on the younger end who just can’t figure out how to take the test at all.

I have a child born in June that started school on time and was accepted into AAP with excellent test scores. We didn't know about test prep at the time (first child) so the only prep she had was in the classroom.

I am happy our top public schools don’t have gifted programs. The schools manage to educate everyone to the best of their ability and sends a higher percentage of students to Ivy Leagues and top universities than most schools. The only ones who do better in are science and math magnet schools.

If a child is gifted and born in June they shouldn’t need an extra year to practice. The child will be fine, why have your child be a full year older than their peers for no reason?

If there are prep tests for the test given for something that is innate it’s not an accurate test.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I only held back when my child was socially immature and in concert with her preK teachers. She’s done very well since then. I’d never hold back a gifted child as I’d be focused on making sure he or she could thrive.

Prek aged children are all socially immature. Every single one of them.
Prek teachers are not a reliable source to recommend this.

This and they don’t have a crystal ball to predict the future. Most have no teaching qualifications either.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like the people answering must not have smart kids. The top of the pack, as in the kids >95th percentile would likely be fine to skip an entire grade. And they would still be top of the pack if they did. I guarantee they would not suddenly be 50th percentile kids. All of this “they only seem smart bc they are the oldest” wrong. They would still be >90 th percentile or higher in the next grade and smarter than most of their classmates. There isn’t that much difference between one grade. Put your kid where fit the best socially and the academics will be met by supplemental material at home or gifted programs.

There’s no way to tell who’s in the 99th percentile in all subject and social matters in elementary school. Plus students don’t always stay at the very top or very bottom or somewhere in the middle.

You might dismiss my example as too old but kids haven’t changed. I was in a pullout program for instruction on subjects not included in classes. There were five of us and we met in a large closet because there were no spare classrooms. In the classroom we were ranked and separated by groups ranked #1, 2,3,4. I was in the top group for every subject until 8th grade when I was dropped to group #2. Math became incredibly hard for me and in high school I was in low math classes. I was a pretty average student who went to a pretty average college.

There’s no gaming the system and children don’t always follow a straight path. I took the LSATs and was in the 80th percentile. It was easier for me with simple math and a lot of reading.

As for your comment that you “feel” like people answering must not have smart kids, that’s nonsensical.

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Anonymous wrote:I only held back when my child was socially immature and in concert with her preK teachers. She’s done very well since then. I’d never hold back a gifted child as I’d be focused on making sure he or she could thrive.

Lol! My child’s PreK teacher suggested repeating. Same ridiculous abstract reason-“socially immature.” I refused and knew this was just a thoughtless and lazy “reason” that is thrown around for convenience.
Years later, his gpa very high is and he thriving and is in a leadership role.
The PreK teacher was profoundly wrong and so is yours.

I have a gifted kid who was very young for her grade (1 day before the cutoff) and socially immature but went on time. Kindergarten was a disaster. She hated all of the desk work, would get wiggly and disruptive and be sent to the principal's office daily. She came to distrust teachers and considered herself a bad kid because she was always in trouble. She hated school and cried herself to sleep every night and then sobbed all the next morning about having to go to school where the teachers hated her. She had trouble resolving problems with friends and spent a lot of time upset. It was really, really terrible. It's so hard seeing your sweet kid crumble and seem themselves a bad person and morn their loss of time to "just play." We were very lucky that she had an excellent 1st grade teacher who started to heal the trauma from the prior year. She was still wiggly and immature but the teacher gave her classroom jobs to keep her busy and put her on group projects only with kids she knew would be a good fit. Then covid hit and she was home for 1.5 years. By the time she was back a lot of the wiggly immaturity was gone, but then we got hit with mean girl dynamics and social engineering and bullying. She's still immature and struggles socially. All of her friends are well into puberty and she hasn't started at all yet. Academically she has 100% scores in every middle school class (or higher if there's extra credit), takes all honors and accelerated classes, but really should be a grade back socially. And no, she doesn't have ADHD or anything diagnosable. It's maturity.

Your preK teacher may have been wrong, but social maturity is a real thing and it can be awful if a kid really isn't ready for kindergarten but is forced.