Held back but gifted, is this frowned upon?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s fine. Kids are held back/started later for a variety of reasons, some nothing to do with academics. If you have a kid that is testing 99th percentile, chances are they are testing 99th percentile in the next grade up and possible the one above that too. It’s fine OP- you aren’t taking anyone’s spot and your son would likely still qualify in the next grade as well

Yes, they are taking a spot from a kid who actually earned it as there are only so many spots.

No they aren’t. He kid would likely have qualified in the next grade up as well

Wrong again. And if that were remotely true, why wouldn’t she wait for the next grade up? It’s like asking why if the money is not the reason, people have their kids apply for private in K and not 6th or 9th - it’s because when kids are older you can tell who has the stuff for real study.

There are many reasons for redshirting. No need to be rude. My own son isn’t “redshirted” but is a Sept birthday that started early but then we moved and had him repeat a grade for a variety reasons. But his test scores are off the charts and by academic ability, he could have skipped middle school all together- and practically did.

You’re pretty touchy. What does it mean to practically skip middle?

Being held back a grade when you’re a boy or repeating is redshirting. It advantages you, and the district I’m in bans it with unusual efficacy and strictness. So. I’m not going to agree with your self-serving views.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s fine. Kids are held back/started later for a variety of reasons, some nothing to do with academics. If you have a kid that is testing 99th percentile, chances are they are testing 99th percentile in the next grade up and possible the one above that too. It’s fine OP- you aren’t taking anyone’s spot and your son would likely still qualify in the next grade as well

Yes, they are taking a spot from a kid who actually earned it as there are only so many spots.

No they aren’t. He kid would likely have qualified in the next grade up as well

Wrong again. And if that were remotely true, why wouldn’t she wait for the next grade up? It’s like asking why if the money is not the reason, people have their kids apply for private in K and not 6th or 9th - it’s because when kids are older you can tell who has the stuff for real study.

There are many reasons for redshirting. No need to be rude. My own son isn’t “redshirted” but is a Sept birthday that started early but then we moved and had him repeat a grade for a variety reasons. But his test scores are off the charts and by academic ability, he could have skipped middle school all together- and practically did.

You’re pretty touchy. What does it mean to practically skip middle?

Being held back a grade when you’re a boy or repeating is redshirting. It advantages you, and the district I’m in bans it with unusual efficacy and strictness. So. I’m not going to agree with your self-serving views.

Because he did a special program that allowed him to take Alg I- precalc and 9-11th grade English while in middle school. So it made more sense for him to reclass and take advantage of the program our new district offered in middle school since it actually challenged him and he was still within the age cut off for his grade as it was Sept 1.

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Anonymous wrote:Do what is best for your kid. The rest is noise.

I couldn’t agree more

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I feel like the people answering must not have smart kids. The top of the pack, as in the kids >95th percentile would likely be fine to skip an entire grade. And they would still be top of the pack if they did. I guarantee they would not suddenly be 50th percentile kids. All of this “they only seem smart bc they are the oldest” wrong. They would still be >90 th percentile or higher in the next grade and smarter than most of their classmates. There isn’t that much difference between one grade. Put your kid where fit the best socially and the academics will be met by supplemental material at home or gifted programs.

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Anonymous wrote:Do what is best for your kid. The rest is noise.

I couldn’t agree more

You couldn’t agree more with what is best for you; not you child.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like the people answering must not have smart kids. The top of the pack, as in the kids >95th percentile would likely be fine to skip an entire grade. And they would still be top of the pack if they did. I guarantee they would not suddenly be 50th percentile kids. All of this “they only seem smart bc they are the oldest” wrong. They would still be >90 th percentile or higher in the next grade and smarter than most of their classmates. There isn’t that much difference between one grade. Put your kid where fit the best socially and the academics will be met by supplemental material at home or gifted programs.

It sounds like you and your kids aren’t intelligent at all. Did you read the OP at all?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like the people answering must not have smart kids. The top of the pack, as in the kids >95th percentile would likely be fine to skip an entire grade. And they would still be top of the pack if they did. I guarantee they would not suddenly be 50th percentile kids. All of this “they only seem smart bc they are the oldest” wrong. They would still be >90 th percentile or higher in the next grade and smarter than most of their classmates. There isn’t that much difference between one grade. Put your kid where fit the best socially and the academics will be met by supplemental material at home or gifted programs.

It sounds like you and your kids aren’t intelligent at all. Did you read the OP at all?

Yes, I understand perfectly.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most boys should be redshirted.

The school environment is made for girls, not boys who have a lot more energy. I redshirted my twins, partly because they were born early, and because we thought that would be best for them. Mine were in gifted classes, but in our school district, gifted is kind of a joke. We've always supplemented with math and reading tutors to keep them challenged.

Scott Galloway, a guy who has a podcast, has stated that one of the ways to make up for the way boys are being disadvantaged in society, is to redshirt them.

Ugh this is such misogyny. Why can’t you myopic, Type A , educated “boy moms” see this??

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Anonymous wrote:I think most boys should be redshirted.

The school environment is made for girls, not boys who have a lot more energy. I redshirted my twins, partly because they were born early, and because we thought that would be best for them. Mine were in gifted classes, but in our school district, gifted is kind of a joke. We've always supplemented with math and reading tutors to keep them challenged.

Scott Galloway, a guy who has a podcast, has stated that one of the ways to make up for the way boys are being disadvantaged in society, is to redshirt them.

Ugh this is such misogyny. Why can’t you myopic, Type A , educated “boy moms” see this??

Because they feel empowered by birthing creatures that will reinforce the power structure, and they’re further and further removed from some of the indignity of misogyny. The women who are concerned about the unfairness they claim boys face are rotten to their daughters and to other women.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most boys should be redshirted.

The school environment is made for girls, not boys who have a lot more energy. I redshirted my twins, partly because they were born early, and because we thought that would be best for them. Mine were in gifted classes, but in our school district, gifted is kind of a joke. We've always supplemented with math and reading tutors to keep them challenged.

Scott Galloway, a guy who has a podcast, has stated that one of the ways to make up for the way boys are being disadvantaged in society, is to redshirt them.

Ugh this is such misogyny. Why can’t you myopic, Type A , educated “boy moms” see this??

She’s so disgusting. To be of the typical age and income and educational level of posters here and pretend that school has favored girls is absolute horseshit.

But laugh and enjoy her earnest citation of “a guy who has a podcast.” I know the man she references but without thinking - she’s not a thinker anyway - she wrote “a man said it so you have to believe it.” Pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most boys should be redshirted.

The school environment is made for girls, not boys who have a lot more energy. I redshirted my twins, partly because they were born early, and because we thought that would be best for them. Mine were in gifted classes, but in our school district, gifted is kind of a joke. We've always supplemented with math and reading tutors to keep them challenged.

Scott Galloway, a guy who has a podcast, has stated that one of the ways to make up for the way boys are being disadvantaged in society, is to redshirt them.

Yeah totally after all in this very nation, it was far more common for girls to be formally educated than boys.

Can you please have your posted bronzed - get Galloway to sign it first (he is not a doctor of philosopher or education or science - he’s a business prof who tells people what they want to hear, like a less serious Malcolm Gladwell). If you have a straight son, any potential daughters in law deserve to see you for what you are.

I'm sure that's what your gender studies degree taught you, that it is now fine to discriminate against boys. I don't agree, and I'm guessing your parents can't wait to get you out of their basement, tough guy.

I have top 10 degrees as an undergrad and for law school and you truly have zero clue. What a tragedy that you reproduced. Congratulations on “raising” overpraised, never qualified, entitled, self-pitying boys.

In other words you are one of the elite who has no clue about life. I also went to a top 10 law school, just finished an MBA and am involved in my 2nd FINTEC venture, so there! Nothing crazier than anti-Redshirt posters. SMH

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People will roll their eyes at "gifted" but do what's best for you (isn't that what you're already doing with redshirting?)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think most boys should be redshirted.

The school environment is made for girls, not boys who have a lot more energy. I redshirted my twins, partly because they were born early, and because we thought that would be best for them. Mine were in gifted classes, but in our school district, gifted is kind of a joke. We've always supplemented with math and reading tutors to keep them challenged.

Scott Galloway, a guy who has a podcast, has stated that one of the ways to make up for the way boys are being disadvantaged in society, is to redshirt them.

Yeah totally after all in this very nation, it was far more common for girls to be formally educated than boys.

Can you please have your posted bronzed - get Galloway to sign it first (he is not a doctor of philosopher or education or science - he’s a business prof who tells people what they want to hear, like a less serious Malcolm Gladwell). If you have a straight son, any potential daughters in law deserve to see you for what you are.

I'm sure that's what your gender studies degree taught you, that it is now fine to discriminate against boys. I don't agree, and I'm guessing your parents can't wait to get you out of their basement, tough guy.

I have top 10 degrees as an undergrad and for law school and you truly have zero clue. What a tragedy that you reproduced. Congratulations on “raising” overpraised, never qualified, entitled, self-pitying boys.

In other words you are one of the elite who has no clue about life. I also went to a top 10 law school, just finished an MBA and am involved in my 2nd FINTEC venture, so there! Nothing crazier than anti-Redshirt posters. SMH

You’re conflating being well-educated as being intelligent.

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Anonymous wrote:Do what is best for your kid. The rest is noise.

I couldn’t agree more

You couldn’t agree more with what is best for you; not you child.

It’s better for your child if another child doesn’t get what they need. You do the same for your child. My child > your child. If it’s ok for you, it’s ok for me.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most boys should be redshirted.

The school environment is made for girls, not boys who have a lot more energy. I redshirted my twins, partly because they were born early, and because we thought that would be best for them. Mine were in gifted classes, but in our school district, gifted is kind of a joke. We've always supplemented with math and reading tutors to keep them challenged.

Scott Galloway, a guy who has a podcast, has stated that one of the ways to make up for the way boys are being disadvantaged in society, is to redshirt them.

Ugh this is such misogyny. Why can’t you myopic, Type A , educated “boy moms” see this??

Because they feel empowered by birthing creatures that will reinforce the power structure, and they’re further and further removed from some of the indignity of misogyny. The women who are concerned about the unfairness they claim boys face are rotten to their daughters and to other women.

What’s wrong? No man will give you the tine of day?