Held back but gifted, is this frowned upon?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing there is so much resistance to the idea that kids can naturally have different levels of social maturity for their age, and that the youngest in a grade may struggle with being less mature. Really astounding. Not everything is diagnosable.

A kid who is comfortably within the norms for the grade that they are within 1 day of the cutoff of being in is likely just immature. Really. They may not be socially advanced for their age, but completely within the bounds of normal behavior and development.

A kid with perfect marks in school, who keeps track of all of their things, and hasn't gotten in trouble for behavior in school in >5.5 years doesn't have ADHD. Really. There is zero reason to medicate them. Not understanding or participating in mean girl exclusionary behavior, and occasionally being the target or the friend of a target, doesn't make one have ADHD or anything else diagnosable. Getting along with kids who similarly are younger for the grade or a grade below and not yet chasing boys or social engineering isn't diagnosable either. It's all age appropriate for a kid who is young for the grade. Just like a 4 yo wanting to play instead of sitting for long periods doing academic seat work is entirely normal, even if that's what was expected at our highly respected DMV public school.

This thread is looney tunes.


We're not talking about OP's kid. We're talking about a PP whose kid has a lot of red flags that she is ignoring.

Yeah that's me, with the same description above. People are diagnosing my kid with ADHD based on behaviors from when they were kindergarten, but that was years ago and they clearly don't have ADHD. Zero chance. Point out whatever red flags you want, but they are in middle school now and don't have any ADHD signs. They're still young and late to puberty, so issues persist. But different issues. All still social maturity. Is there also a pill for in middle school but not interested in talking about boys?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's amazing there is so much resistance to the idea that kids can naturally have different levels of social maturity for their age, and that the youngest in a grade may struggle with being less mature. Really astounding. Not everything is diagnosable.

A kid who is comfortably within the norms for the grade that they are within 1 day of the cutoff of being in is likely just immature. Really. They may not be socially advanced for their age, but completely within the bounds of normal behavior and development.

A kid with perfect marks in school, who keeps track of all of their things, and hasn't gotten in trouble for behavior in school in >5.5 years doesn't have ADHD. Really. There is zero reason to medicate them. Not understanding or participating in mean girl exclusionary behavior, and occasionally being the target or the friend of a target, doesn't make one have ADHD or anything else diagnosable. Getting along with kids who similarly are younger for the grade or a grade below and not yet chasing boys or social engineering isn't diagnosable either. It's all age appropriate for a kid who is young for the grade. Just like a 4 yo wanting to play instead of sitting for long periods doing academic seat work is entirely normal, even if that's what was expected at our highly respected DMV public school.

This thread is looney tunes.


We're not talking about OP's kid. We're talking about a PP whose kid has a lot of red flags that she is ignoring.

Yeah that's me, with the same description above. People are diagnosing my kid with ADHD based on behaviors from when they were kindergarten, but that was years ago and they clearly don't have ADHD. Zero chance. Point out whatever red flags you want, but they are in middle school now and don't have any ADHD signs. They're still young and late to puberty, so issues persist. But different issues. All still social maturity. Is there also a pill for in middle school but not interested in talking about boys?


Yes, it's the different issues we're talking about. There is a reason so many women are diagnosed late in life. I'm not blaming you or judging your kid, I'm saying from one mom to another who has BTDT I (we) see red flags. Why not see if you can get her help? You literally said she's often sad. Why are you ok with that?
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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing there is so much resistance to the idea that kids can naturally have different levels of social maturity for their age, and that the youngest in a grade may struggle with being less mature. Really astounding. Not everything is diagnosable.

A kid who is comfortably within the norms for the grade that they are within 1 day of the cutoff of being in is likely just immature. Really. They may not be socially advanced for their age, but completely within the bounds of normal behavior and development.

A kid with perfect marks in school, who keeps track of all of their things, and hasn't gotten in trouble for behavior in school in >5.5 years doesn't have ADHD. Really. There is zero reason to medicate them. Not understanding or participating in mean girl exclusionary behavior, and occasionally being the target or the friend of a target, doesn't make one have ADHD or anything else diagnosable. Getting along with kids who similarly are younger for the grade or a grade below and not yet chasing boys or social engineering isn't diagnosable either. It's all age appropriate for a kid who is young for the grade. Just like a 4 yo wanting to play instead of sitting for long periods doing academic seat work is entirely normal, even if that's what was expected at our highly respected DMV public school.

This thread is looney tunes.


Well, we have one anti-redshirt supposed child psychologist telling people she disagrees with that they haven’t taken their meds, and another one posting grotesquely about incest, so yes, the normal people will think this thread is absolutely looney tunes, but that is kind of how DCUM anti-redshirting posters roll.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son is in 4th and in his grade and the 3rd grade as well, there are A LOT of old for grade/redshirted kids (largely due to people holding their kids back during Covid due to not wanting to do virtual kindergarten). The gifted program for these 2 grades is also much larger than for other grades. Go figure. 😂

I think the kids being older definitely factors into the larger numbers of kids in the gifted program but I think it may also co-relate to kids having more time at home/with parents in those key years of pre-k and k. At least for my son (who went to school on time so is not redshirted) I think he really benefited academically (not socially, of course) from being homeschooled during Covid because my DH and I were able to work 1-1 with him on things and read to him a lot…I know this obviously wasn’t the case for a lot of kids but for kids in our area/our school I am guessing it was true of a lot of kids in my child’s cohort who tend to have very involved parents. May contribute to the academic success of this particular group of kids. (There are 60 kids in his grade and 1/3 of them are in the gifted program!)


The redshirt moms are like the boymoms are like the anticircumcision mama bears and from their poor writing skills, it’s probably a few posters who are all 3 things. They are damaged, dumb, and are obsessed with trying to advantage their boys in the earliest stages and grades in ways that wind up being very zero sum to a deeply antisocial degree. That proportion of G&T is crazy.


Stop day drinking, honey.


Take your son’s dick out of your mouth for a second - it might help you both breathe and think a little better.


The anti-redshirting people always show their true nature, but I have to admit I didn’t realize how many of them fantasize about incest. You are a new low, even for that disgusting crowd. 🤮🤮🤮


Okay, you who keeps posting the same things in all of these redshirt threads you start periodically.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's amazing there is so much resistance to the idea that kids can naturally have different levels of social maturity for their age, and that the youngest in a grade may struggle with being less mature. Really astounding. Not everything is diagnosable.

A kid who is comfortably within the norms for the grade that they are within 1 day of the cutoff of being in is likely just immature. Really. They may not be socially advanced for their age, but completely within the bounds of normal behavior and development.

A kid with perfect marks in school, who keeps track of all of their things, and hasn't gotten in trouble for behavior in school in >5.5 years doesn't have ADHD. Really. There is zero reason to medicate them. Not understanding or participating in mean girl exclusionary behavior, and occasionally being the target or the friend of a target, doesn't make one have ADHD or anything else diagnosable. Getting along with kids who similarly are younger for the grade or a grade below and not yet chasing boys or social engineering isn't diagnosable either. It's all age appropriate for a kid who is young for the grade. Just like a 4 yo wanting to play instead of sitting for long periods doing academic seat work is entirely normal, even if that's what was expected at our highly respected DMV public school.

This thread is looney tunes.


Well, we have one anti-redshirt supposed child psychologist telling people she disagrees with that they haven’t taken their meds, and another one posting grotesquely about incest, so yes, the normal people will think this thread is absolutely looney tunes, but that is kind of how DCUM anti-redshirting posters roll.


All right sock puppet.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son is in 4th and in his grade and the 3rd grade as well, there are A LOT of old for grade/redshirted kids (largely due to people holding their kids back during Covid due to not wanting to do virtual kindergarten). The gifted program for these 2 grades is also much larger than for other grades. Go figure. 😂

I think the kids being older definitely factors into the larger numbers of kids in the gifted program but I think it may also co-relate to kids having more time at home/with parents in those key years of pre-k and k. At least for my son (who went to school on time so is not redshirted) I think he really benefited academically (not socially, of course) from being homeschooled during Covid because my DH and I were able to work 1-1 with him on things and read to him a lot…I know this obviously wasn’t the case for a lot of kids but for kids in our area/our school I am guessing it was true of a lot of kids in my child’s cohort who tend to have very involved parents. May contribute to the academic success of this particular group of kids. (There are 60 kids in his grade and 1/3 of them are in the gifted program!)


The redshirt moms are like the boymoms are like the anticircumcision mama bears and from their poor writing skills, it’s probably a few posters who are all 3 things. They are damaged, dumb, and are obsessed with trying to advantage their boys in the earliest stages and grades in ways that wind up being very zero sum to a deeply antisocial degree. That proportion of G&T is crazy.


Stop day drinking, honey.


Take your son’s dick out of your mouth for a second - it might help you both breathe and think a little better.


The anti-redshirting people always show their true nature, but I have to admit I didn’t realize how many of them fantasize about incest. You are a new low, even for that disgusting crowd. 🤮🤮🤮


Okay, you who keeps posting the same things in all of these redshirt threads you start periodically.


I’m not the one posting incest fantasies. That’s an anti-redshirter who admittedly appears to be very drunk.

Also, I have never started a redshirting thread. I think it’s telling you admit these are all troll threads, however. They have the same pattern, always started with a fake fact pattern by a crazy anti-redshirter.

You can ask Jeff to confirm IPs if you want. These threads are started by the nutty anti-redshirters, not the people who point out how crazy those posters are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son is in 4th and in his grade and the 3rd grade as well, there are A LOT of old for grade/redshirted kids (largely due to people holding their kids back during Covid due to not wanting to do virtual kindergarten). The gifted program for these 2 grades is also much larger than for other grades. Go figure. 😂

I think the kids being older definitely factors into the larger numbers of kids in the gifted program but I think it may also co-relate to kids having more time at home/with parents in those key years of pre-k and k. At least for my son (who went to school on time so is not redshirted) I think he really benefited academically (not socially, of course) from being homeschooled during Covid because my DH and I were able to work 1-1 with him on things and read to him a lot…I know this obviously wasn’t the case for a lot of kids but for kids in our area/our school I am guessing it was true of a lot of kids in my child’s cohort who tend to have very involved parents. May contribute to the academic success of this particular group of kids. (There are 60 kids in his grade and 1/3 of them are in the gifted program!)


The redshirt moms are like the boymoms are like the anticircumcision mama bears and from their poor writing skills, it’s probably a few posters who are all 3 things. They are damaged, dumb, and are obsessed with trying to advantage their boys in the earliest stages and grades in ways that wind up being very zero sum to a deeply antisocial degree. That proportion of G&T is crazy.


Stop day drinking, honey.


Take your son’s dick out of your mouth for a second - it might help you both breathe and think a little better.


The anti-redshirting people always show their true nature, but I have to admit I didn’t realize how many of them fantasize about incest. You are a new low, even for that disgusting crowd. 🤮🤮🤮


Okay, you who keeps posting the same things in all of these redshirt threads you start periodically.


I’m not the one posting incest fantasies. That’s an anti-redshirter who admittedly appears to be very drunk.

Also, I have never started a redshirting thread. I think it’s telling you admit these are all troll threads, however. They have the same pattern, always started with a fake fact pattern by a crazy anti-redshirter.

You can ask Jeff to confirm IPs if you want. These threads are started by the nutty anti-redshirters, not the people who point out how crazy those posters are.


Just as expected for you to answer like you always do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son is in 4th and in his grade and the 3rd grade as well, there are A LOT of old for grade/redshirted kids (largely due to people holding their kids back during Covid due to not wanting to do virtual kindergarten). The gifted program for these 2 grades is also much larger than for other grades. Go figure. 😂

I think the kids being older definitely factors into the larger numbers of kids in the gifted program but I think it may also co-relate to kids having more time at home/with parents in those key years of pre-k and k. At least for my son (who went to school on time so is not redshirted) I think he really benefited academically (not socially, of course) from being homeschooled during Covid because my DH and I were able to work 1-1 with him on things and read to him a lot…I know this obviously wasn’t the case for a lot of kids but for kids in our area/our school I am guessing it was true of a lot of kids in my child’s cohort who tend to have very involved parents. May contribute to the academic success of this particular group of kids. (There are 60 kids in his grade and 1/3 of them are in the gifted program!)


The redshirt moms are like the boymoms are like the anticircumcision mama bears and from their poor writing skills, it’s probably a few posters who are all 3 things. They are damaged, dumb, and are obsessed with trying to advantage their boys in the earliest stages and grades in ways that wind up being very zero sum to a deeply antisocial degree. That proportion of G&T is crazy.


Stop day drinking, honey.


Take your son’s dick out of your mouth for a second - it might help you both breathe and think a little better.


The anti-redshirting people always show their true nature, but I have to admit I didn’t realize how many of them fantasize about incest. You are a new low, even for that disgusting crowd. 🤮🤮🤮


Okay, you who keeps posting the same things in all of these redshirt threads you start periodically.


I’m not the one posting incest fantasies. That’s an anti-redshirter who admittedly appears to be very drunk.

Also, I have never started a redshirting thread. I think it’s telling you admit these are all troll threads, however. They have the same pattern, always started with a fake fact pattern by a crazy anti-redshirter.

You can ask Jeff to confirm IPs if you want. These threads are started by the nutty anti-redshirters, not the people who point out how crazy those posters are.


Just as expected for you to answer like you always do.


Stop drinking, Jan. And stop your gross incest fantasies too. It’s disgusting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son is in 4th and in his grade and the 3rd grade as well, there are A LOT of old for grade/redshirted kids (largely due to people holding their kids back during Covid due to not wanting to do virtual kindergarten). The gifted program for these 2 grades is also much larger than for other grades. Go figure. 😂

I think the kids being older definitely factors into the larger numbers of kids in the gifted program but I think it may also co-relate to kids having more time at home/with parents in those key years of pre-k and k. At least for my son (who went to school on time so is not redshirted) I think he really benefited academically (not socially, of course) from being homeschooled during Covid because my DH and I were able to work 1-1 with him on things and read to him a lot…I know this obviously wasn’t the case for a lot of kids but for kids in our area/our school I am guessing it was true of a lot of kids in my child’s cohort who tend to have very involved parents. May contribute to the academic success of this particular group of kids. (There are 60 kids in his grade and 1/3 of them are in the gifted program!)


The redshirt moms are like the boymoms are like the anticircumcision mama bears and from their poor writing skills, it’s probably a few posters who are all 3 things. They are damaged, dumb, and are obsessed with trying to advantage their boys in the earliest stages and grades in ways that wind up being very zero sum to a deeply antisocial degree. That proportion of G&T is crazy.


Stop day drinking, honey.


Take your son’s dick out of your mouth for a second - it might help you both breathe and think a little better.


The anti-redshirting people always show their true nature, but I have to admit I didn’t realize how many of them fantasize about incest. You are a new low, even for that disgusting crowd. 🤮🤮🤮


Okay, you who keeps posting the same things in all of these redshirt threads you start periodically.


I’m not the one posting incest fantasies. That’s an anti-redshirter who admittedly appears to be very drunk.

Also, I have never started a redshirting thread. I think it’s telling you admit these are all troll threads, however. They have the same pattern, always started with a fake fact pattern by a crazy anti-redshirter.

You can ask Jeff to confirm IPs if you want. These threads are started by the nutty anti-redshirters, not the people who point out how crazy those posters are.


Just as expected for you to answer like you always do.


Stop drinking, Jan. And stop your gross incest fantasies too. It’s disgusting.


What’s tired retort will be next from you? Seek help? Take your meds? Incel basement dweller?
Jan, Karen, Larla?
Come on faux raged who is “disgusted.” What will it be?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son is in 4th and in his grade and the 3rd grade as well, there are A LOT of old for grade/redshirted kids (largely due to people holding their kids back during Covid due to not wanting to do virtual kindergarten). The gifted program for these 2 grades is also much larger than for other grades. Go figure. 😂

I think the kids being older definitely factors into the larger numbers of kids in the gifted program but I think it may also co-relate to kids having more time at home/with parents in those key years of pre-k and k. At least for my son (who went to school on time so is not redshirted) I think he really benefited academically (not socially, of course) from being homeschooled during Covid because my DH and I were able to work 1-1 with him on things and read to him a lot…I know this obviously wasn’t the case for a lot of kids but for kids in our area/our school I am guessing it was true of a lot of kids in my child’s cohort who tend to have very involved parents. May contribute to the academic success of this particular group of kids. (There are 60 kids in his grade and 1/3 of them are in the gifted program!)


The redshirt moms are like the boymoms are like the anticircumcision mama bears and from their poor writing skills, it’s probably a few posters who are all 3 things. They are damaged, dumb, and are obsessed with trying to advantage their boys in the earliest stages and grades in ways that wind up being very zero sum to a deeply antisocial degree. That proportion of G&T is crazy.


Stop day drinking, honey.


Take your son’s dick out of your mouth for a second - it might help you both breathe and think a little better.


The anti-redshirting people always show their true nature, but I have to admit I didn’t realize how many of them fantasize about incest. You are a new low, even for that disgusting crowd. 🤮🤮🤮


Okay, you who keeps posting the same things in all of these redshirt threads you start periodically.


I’m not the one posting incest fantasies. That’s an anti-redshirter who admittedly appears to be very drunk.

Also, I have never started a redshirting thread. I think it’s telling you admit these are all troll threads, however. They have the same pattern, always started with a fake fact pattern by a crazy anti-redshirter.

You can ask Jeff to confirm IPs if you want. These threads are started by the nutty anti-redshirters, not the people who point out how crazy those posters are.


Just as expected for you to answer like you always do.


Stop drinking, Jan. And stop your gross incest fantasies too. It’s disgusting.


What’s tired retort will be next from you? Seek help? Take your meds? Incel basement dweller?
Jan, Karen, Larla?
Come on faux raged who is “disgusted.” What will it be?


Look, honey, I’m not the drunk one here. I’m not the one posting incest fantasies. I’m not the child psychologist lashing out with “take your meds” when faced with disagreement. That’s all from the anti-redshirting posters.

I get that you don’t like your own crowd and your self-loathing probably runs very deep, but take it up with your own crowd and your own self, not the people who observe how crazy you and your people are.

Why are DCUM anti-redshirters always so freaking weird?? What happened to make you so weird?


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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son is in 4th and in his grade and the 3rd grade as well, there are A LOT of old for grade/redshirted kids (largely due to people holding their kids back during Covid due to not wanting to do virtual kindergarten). The gifted program for these 2 grades is also much larger than for other grades. Go figure. 😂

I think the kids being older definitely factors into the larger numbers of kids in the gifted program but I think it may also co-relate to kids having more time at home/with parents in those key years of pre-k and k. At least for my son (who went to school on time so is not redshirted) I think he really benefited academically (not socially, of course) from being homeschooled during Covid because my DH and I were able to work 1-1 with him on things and read to him a lot…I know this obviously wasn’t the case for a lot of kids but for kids in our area/our school I am guessing it was true of a lot of kids in my child’s cohort who tend to have very involved parents. May contribute to the academic success of this particular group of kids. (There are 60 kids in his grade and 1/3 of them are in the gifted program!)


The redshirt moms are like the boymoms are like the anticircumcision mama bears and from their poor writing skills, it’s probably a few posters who are all 3 things. They are damaged, dumb, and are obsessed with trying to advantage their boys in the earliest stages and grades in ways that wind up being very zero sum to a deeply antisocial degree. That proportion of G&T is crazy.


Stop day drinking, honey.


Take your son’s dick out of your mouth for a second - it might help you both breathe and think a little better.


The anti-redshirting people always show their true nature, but I have to admit I didn’t realize how many of them fantasize about incest. You are a new low, even for that disgusting crowd. 🤮🤮🤮


Okay, you who keeps posting the same things in all of these redshirt threads you start periodically.


I’m not the one posting incest fantasies. That’s an anti-redshirter who admittedly appears to be very drunk.

Also, I have never started a redshirting thread. I think it’s telling you admit these are all troll threads, however. They have the same pattern, always started with a fake fact pattern by a crazy anti-redshirter.

You can ask Jeff to confirm IPs if you want. These threads are started by the nutty anti-redshirters, not the people who point out how crazy those posters are.


Just as expected for you to answer like you always do.


Stop drinking, Jan. And stop your gross incest fantasies too. It’s disgusting.


What’s tired retort will be next from you? Seek help? Take your meds? Incel basement dweller?
Jan, Karen, Larla?
Come on faux raged who is “disgusted.” What will it be?


Look, honey, I’m not the drunk one here. I’m not the one posting incest fantasies. I’m not the child psychologist lashing out with “take your meds” when faced with disagreement. That’s all from the anti-redshirting posters.

I get that you don’t like your own crowd and your self-loathing probably runs very deep, but take it up with your own crowd and your own self, not the people who observe how crazy you and your people are.

Why are DCUM anti-redshirters always so freaking weird?? What happened to make you so weird?




Just as expected. Want me to type your comments for you to save you some time?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's amazing there is so much resistance to the idea that kids can naturally have different levels of social maturity for their age, and that the youngest in a grade may struggle with being less mature. Really astounding. Not everything is diagnosable.

A kid who is comfortably within the norms for the grade that they are within 1 day of the cutoff of being in is likely just immature. Really. They may not be socially advanced for their age, but completely within the bounds of normal behavior and development.

A kid with perfect marks in school, who keeps track of all of their things, and hasn't gotten in trouble for behavior in school in >5.5 years doesn't have ADHD. Really. There is zero reason to medicate them. Not understanding or participating in mean girl exclusionary behavior, and occasionally being the target or the friend of a target, doesn't make one have ADHD or anything else diagnosable. Getting along with kids who similarly are younger for the grade or a grade below and not yet chasing boys or social engineering isn't diagnosable either. It's all age appropriate for a kid who is young for the grade. Just like a 4 yo wanting to play instead of sitting for long periods doing academic seat work is entirely normal, even if that's what was expected at our highly respected DMV public school.

This thread is looney tunes.


We're not talking about OP's kid. We're talking about a PP whose kid has a lot of red flags that she is ignoring.

Yeah that's me, with the same description above. People are diagnosing my kid with ADHD based on behaviors from when they were kindergarten, but that was years ago and they clearly don't have ADHD. Zero chance. Point out whatever red flags you want, but they are in middle school now and don't have any ADHD signs. They're still young and late to puberty, so issues persist. But different issues. All still social maturity. Is there also a pill for in middle school but not interested in talking about boys?


Yes, it's the different issues we're talking about. There is a reason so many women are diagnosed late in life. I'm not blaming you or judging your kid, I'm saying from one mom to another who has BTDT I (we) see red flags. Why not see if you can get her help? You literally said she's often sad. Why are you ok with that?

Yeah, being in a class with a mean girl dynamic makes her sad. I think she'd probably handle it better and be less of a target if she wasn't the youngest and least developed, but here we are. But she's within all measures of normal and has friends. No one in real life sees red flags. Just weird Internet posters.

If you want another example, think of all of the social challenges that are cited for kids who skipped ahead a grade. Schools literally don't do that anymore because of the social issues. That's very similar to where we are given her late birthday. She needs to be in this grade academically, but socially would be better off a year behind. She's hardly the first.

I wish there was a perfect and affordable private school where she could be a grade younger (still with peers given more pervasive redshirting) and do challenging school work, but that's not an option for us. So we are doing our best with public.

I just don't buy the myth that was posted that no kids should ever be redshirted and that all kids will be socially fine in kindergarten. There are kids who aren't ready for kindergarten and don't do well, to the detriment of both the kid AND the class. I'm a parent who lived it.
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