Dockworker’s strike

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why even bring up your uncle then? What was the purpose?

He is cackling with delight that shelves will be empty and after the pandemic inflation, the orange sun king will return.

Basically he wants the union to do Trump’s bidding and make Biden Harris look bad.

Have you looked at the Longshoremans’ demands? They don’t mention a single candidate. They are about wages and automation only.

Demands for increased wages are reasonable but people need to stop demanding limits on automation.

Automation will inevitably replace expensive workers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So a month before the election we’re on the verge of a massive dockworker’s strike that will basically shut down US Atlantic ports. This seems like a huge disaster for Biden and Harris. What leverage do they have to step in?

They have the Taft-Hartley Act.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft%E2%80%93Hartley_Act

And the Cimmerce Act.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is about unions trying to sabotage the economy in order to throw the election to trump. That’s ALL this is.

The average dock worker earns $300,000/yr!!! I have an advanced degree and work in public service and I don’t earn that much! These are basically knuckleheads with no education who operate equipment, they’re overpaid as it is.

This is political interference. The DoJ needs to look into this immediately.

Well after their raise they will be over the 400K cut off so it is OK for Harris to raise their taxes through the roof?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So a month before the election we’re on the verge of a massive dockworker’s strike that will basically shut down US Atlantic ports. This seems like a huge disaster for Biden and Harris. What leverage do they have to step in?

They have the Taft-Hartley Act.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft%E2%80%93Hartley_Act

And the Cimmerce Act.

Hopefully Biden Harris will not allow this to go on more than a week.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So a month before the election we’re on the verge of a massive dockworker’s strike that will basically shut down US Atlantic ports. This seems like a huge disaster for Biden and Harris. What leverage do they have to step in?

Why should they be stepping in?

These dockworkers have legitimate concerns and grievances. I don’t want Biden/Harris shutting down a labor action that affects real people.

If there’s a strike, then it needs to run as long as necessary for the union to get a fair contract. You HAVE to make a stand.

Biden has not exactly been the best friend to union workers, and staying OUT of this would be the BEST thing he can do.

The dockworkers do at least control the timing of the strike. They could agree on a 3 month extension of the current contract in order to push this past the election. I'm guessing that the union believes threatening a major strike so close to the election will motivate the administration to pressure management for concessions. Either that, or (like the Teamsters) they see their constituency shifting to Trump and this is basically their body blow against the Democrats.

If unions are going to actively conspire to ensure that Democrats lose elections... well, best of luck to them. Can't say I understand the big brain thinking behind sabotaging the only party that cares about unions. But if the longshoremen join the teamsters in advancing the GOP agenda, I think this marks the end of the line for the political relevance of unions. It's like turkeys advocating for thanksgiving.

Democrats love unions because of millions of dollars in donations. The people in them? Not so much.

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What's the point of posting this? A lot of employers hate paying 1.5x wages.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about unions trying to sabotage the economy in order to throw the election to trump. That’s ALL this is.

The average dock worker earns $300,000/yr!!! I have an advanced degree and work in public service and I don’t earn that much! These are basically knuckleheads with no education who operate equipment, they’re overpaid as it is.

This is political interference. The DoJ needs to look into this immediately.

Boo Hoo. Hard physical work that provides the commodities and manufactured products necessary for civilization makes more money than your non-essential, sap sucking, parasitic, sloppy, slovenly “work” probably remotely performed in your PJs.

You do know that longshoremen don't unload ships by hand, right? There are... buttons they press.

I mean, it's hard work operating those cranes and repairing them, and so think they should be paid fairly and more than they are. However, they aren't lugging crates on their backs anymore.

It's really too bad the Teamsters don't endorse Democrats anymore, and are aligned more with anti union republicans. Not the way to get a pay increase and better working conditions, folks.

Right? Not sure what the strategy is here. So unions are threatening to deprive the entire Eastern seaboard of food and goods a few weeks before a national election, thereby effectively ensuring a Republican victory in November. Unions have somehow concluded that Trump and the GOP are their natural allies? Never mind that just yesterday Trump was rambling about how much he hates paying overtime. This is who unions have decided to champion.

Brilliant. If I'm a Democrat in office watching this, I would turn on unions so fast - just for the mendacity alone. Clearly, unions are run by morons. Absolutely no one in America is going to side with extremely well-paid longshoremen who are going to be costing this country $5 billion per day with their actions plus food shortages plus a massive inflationary spike. It's blackmail on all Americans. And it effectively becomes a national security crisis.

The Dems flooded the US with over 10 million illegal aliens who compete with union workers for construction jobs.

10 million isn't the right number and you clearly don't know who unions and union jobs work if you believe that. Also, even if what you typed is true, then why not hold the employers responsible for hiring undocumented workers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump would fire them all in a heartbeat.

Fact.

And then what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So a month before the election we’re on the verge of a massive dockworker’s strike that will basically shut down US Atlantic ports. This seems like a huge disaster for Biden and Harris. What leverage do they have to step in?

Why should they be stepping in?

These dockworkers have legitimate concerns and grievances. I don’t want Biden/Harris shutting down a labor action that affects real people.

If there’s a strike, then it needs to run as long as necessary for the union to get a fair contract. You HAVE to make a stand.

Biden has not exactly been the best friend to union workers, and staying OUT of this would be the BEST thing he can do.

So the people can interrupt global supply chains and threaten American citizens access to food, medication, and essential supplies to strike ? That is completely ridiculous.

Harris can get the vote harvesters and ballot stuffers to work the docks instead for October.

Modern problems call for modern solutions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about unions trying to sabotage the economy in order to throw the election to trump. That’s ALL this is.

The average dock worker earns $300,000/yr!!! I have an advanced degree and work in public service and I don’t earn that much! These are basically knuckleheads with no education who operate equipment, they’re overpaid as it is.

This is political interference. The DoJ needs to look into this immediately.

Boo Hoo. Hard physical work that provides the commodities and manufactured products necessary for civilization makes more money than your non-essential, sap sucking, parasitic, sloppy, slovenly “work” probably remotely performed in your PJs.

You do know that longshoremen don't unload ships by hand, right? There are... buttons they press.

I mean, it's hard work operating those cranes and repairing them, and so think they should be paid fairly and more than they are. However, they aren't lugging crates on their backs anymore.

It's really too bad the Teamsters don't endorse Democrats anymore, and are aligned more with anti union republicans. Not the way to get a pay increase and better working conditions, folks.

Right? Not sure what the strategy is here. So unions are threatening to deprive the entire Eastern seaboard of food and goods a few weeks before a national election, thereby effectively ensuring a Republican victory in November. Unions have somehow concluded that Trump and the GOP are their natural allies? Never mind that just yesterday Trump was rambling about how much he hates paying overtime. This is who unions have decided to champion.

Brilliant. If I'm a Democrat in office watching this, I would turn on unions so fast - just for the mendacity alone. Clearly, unions are run by morons. Absolutely no one in America is going to side with extremely well-paid longshoremen who are going to be costing this country $5 billion per day with their actions plus food shortages plus a massive inflationary spike. It's blackmail on all Americans. And it effectively becomes a national security crisis.

The Dems flooded the US with over 10 million illegal aliens who compete with union workers for construction jobs.

10 million isn't the right number and you clearly don't know who unions and union jobs work if you believe that. Also, even if what you typed is true, then why not hold the employers responsible for hiring undocumented workers?

Great idea. Now let's think back to third grade civics. Which branch of government is responsible for enforcing laws on the books? That would be the executive branch. Biden stopped holding employers responsible in 2021. So in review, this administration allowed millions to flood over our border and then stopped enforcement of the magnet that brings them here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why even bring up your uncle then? What was the purpose?

He is cackling with delight that shelves will be empty and after the pandemic inflation, the orange sun king will return.

Basically he wants the union to do Trump’s bidding and make Biden Harris look bad.

Have you looked at the Longshoremans’ demands? They don’t mention a single candidate. They are about wages and automation only.

Demands for increased wages are reasonable but people need to stop demanding limits on automation.

Automation will inevitably replace expensive workers.

Automation is coming for your job too. Humans having jobs is more important than maximum profit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why even bring up your uncle then? What was the purpose?

He is cackling with delight that shelves will be empty and after the pandemic inflation, the orange sun king will return.

Basically he wants the union to do Trump’s bidding and make Biden Harris look bad.

Have you looked at the Longshoremans’ demands? They don’t mention a single candidate. They are about wages and automation only.

Demands for increased wages are reasonable but people need to stop demanding limits on automation.

Automation will inevitably replace expensive workers.

Automation is coming for your job too. Humans having jobs is more important than maximum profit.

How much extra are you willing to pay for bananas?

The longshoreman are demanding a 70%+ raise and were offered a 50% raise. If those goes on more than a week public opinion is going to swing against them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about unions trying to sabotage the economy in order to throw the election to trump. That’s ALL this is.

The average dock worker earns $300,000/yr!!! I have an advanced degree and work in public service and I don’t earn that much! These are basically knuckleheads with no education who operate equipment, they’re overpaid as it is.

This is political interference. The DoJ needs to look into this immediately.

Boo Hoo. Hard physical work that provides the commodities and manufactured products necessary for civilization makes more money than your non-essential, sap sucking, parasitic, sloppy, slovenly “work” probably remotely performed in your PJs.

You do know that longshoremen don't unload ships by hand, right? There are... buttons they press.

I mean, it's hard work operating those cranes and repairing them, and so think they should be paid fairly and more than they are. However, they aren't lugging crates on their backs anymore.

It's really too bad the Teamsters don't endorse Democrats anymore, and are aligned more with anti union republicans. Not the way to get a pay increase and better working conditions, folks.

Right? Not sure what the strategy is here. So unions are threatening to deprive the entire Eastern seaboard of food and goods a few weeks before a national election, thereby effectively ensuring a Republican victory in November. Unions have somehow concluded that Trump and the GOP are their natural allies? Never mind that just yesterday Trump was rambling about how much he hates paying overtime. This is who unions have decided to champion.

Brilliant. If I'm a Democrat in office watching this, I would turn on unions so fast - just for the mendacity alone. Clearly, unions are run by morons. Absolutely no one in America is going to side with extremely well-paid longshoremen who are going to be costing this country $5 billion per day with their actions plus food shortages plus a massive inflationary spike. It's blackmail on all Americans. And it effectively becomes a national security crisis.

The Dems flooded the US with over 10 million illegal aliens who compete with union workers for construction jobs.

10 million isn't the right number and you clearly don't know who unions and union jobs work if you believe that. Also, even if what you typed is true, then why not hold the employers responsible for hiring undocumented workers?

Great idea. Now let's think back to third grade civics. Which branch of government is responsible for enforcing laws on the books? That would be the executive branch. Biden stopped holding employers responsible in 2021. So in review, this administration allowed millions to flood over our border and then stopped enforcement of the magnet that brings them here.

No, you don't get to claim this as if it is something new. I mean Trump literally employees undocumented migrants om his properties and did while he was president. You want those laws enforced? Pass the legislation that funds the enforcement. Trump told the GOP not to pass it, that is all you should need to know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why even bring up your uncle then? What was the purpose?

He is cackling with delight that shelves will be empty and after the pandemic inflation, the orange sun king will return.

Basically he wants the union to do Trump’s bidding and make Biden Harris look bad.

Have you looked at the Longshoremans’ demands? They don’t mention a single candidate. They are about wages and automation only.

Demands for increased wages are reasonable but people need to stop demanding limits on automation.

Automation will inevitably replace expensive workers.

Automation is coming for your job too. Humans having jobs is more important than maximum profit.

How much extra are you willing to pay for bananas?

The longshoreman are demanding a 70%+ raise and were offered a 50% raise. If those goes on more than a week public opinion is going to swing against them.

Their max pay is now $39 an hour now, a 70% raise is being instituted over 6 years at $5 an hour a year.

$39/hour for a max salary is chicken scratch for what those people have to endure. That’s around $75,000-$80,000 a year for back breaking work where you always the risk of having your skull, legs, or back caved in by a shipping container. Shame on you for thinking they’re being greedy in their demands.

This thread really brings to light how phony these supposed “Democrats” are on this board. These “Democrats” on here are mostly neoconservative Republicans who have libertarian social and cultural views. Not Democrats in my book at all.

I stand with the workers of America, not greedy corporations. You should too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why even bring up your uncle then? What was the purpose?

He is cackling with delight that shelves will be empty and after the pandemic inflation, the orange sun king will return.

Basically he wants the union to do Trump’s bidding and make Biden Harris look bad.

Have you looked at the Longshoremans’ demands? They don’t mention a single candidate. They are about wages and automation only.

Demands for increased wages are reasonable but people need to stop demanding limits on automation.

Automation will inevitably replace expensive workers.

Automation is coming for your job too. Humans having jobs is more important than maximum profit.

How much extra are you willing to pay for bananas?

The longshoreman are demanding a 70%+ raise and were offered a 50% raise. If those goes on more than a week public opinion is going to swing against them.

Their max pay is now $39 an hour now, a 70% raise is being instituted over 6 years at $5 an hour a year.

$39/hour for a max salary is chicken scratch for what those people have to endure. That’s around $75,000-$80,000 a year for back breaking work where you always the risk of having your skull, legs, or back caved in by a shipping container. Shame on you for thinking they’re being greedy in their demands.

This thread really brings to light how phony these supposed “Democrats” are on this board. These “Democrats” on here are mostly neoconservative Republicans who have libertarian social and cultural views. Not Democrats in my book at all.

I stand with the workers of America, not greedy corporations. You should too.

If it's such a terrible, dangerous job, it should be replaced by automation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why even bring up your uncle then? What was the purpose?

He is cackling with delight that shelves will be empty and after the pandemic inflation, the orange sun king will return.

Basically he wants the union to do Trump’s bidding and make Biden Harris look bad.

Have you looked at the Longshoremans’ demands? They don’t mention a single candidate. They are about wages and automation only.

Demands for increased wages are reasonable but people need to stop demanding limits on automation.

Automation will inevitably replace expensive workers.

Automation is coming for your job too. Humans having jobs is more important than maximum profit.

How much extra are you willing to pay for bananas?

The longshoreman are demanding a 70%+ raise and were offered a 50% raise. If those goes on more than a week public opinion is going to swing against them.

Their max pay is now $39 an hour now, a 70% raise is being instituted over 6 years at $5 an hour a year.

$39/hour for a max salary is chicken scratch for what those people have to endure. That’s around $75,000-$80,000 a year for back breaking work where you always the risk of having your skull, legs, or back caved in by a shipping container. Shame on you for thinking they’re being greedy in their demands.

This thread really brings to light how phony these supposed “Democrats” are on this board. These “Democrats” on here are mostly neoconservative Republicans who have libertarian social and cultural views. Not Democrats in my book at all.

I stand with the workers of America, not greedy corporations. You should too.

Where's the party registration badge on DCUM posts?