Dockworker’s strike

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why even bring up your uncle then? What was the purpose?


He is cackling with delight that shelves will be empty and after the pandemic inflation, the orange sun king will return.

Basically he wants the union to do Trump’s bidding and make Biden Harris look bad.

As usual, Republicans want bad things to happen as long as they can get something out of it


And the Democrats backing MAGA candidates in primaries in order to make it easier on their own candidates in the general are different because...?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most amazing thing is the fact that the news isn't really reporting on this in the lead-up.


This should be stated again. Hmmmm now why would the media ignore this huge story that doesn't show the Biden/HARRIS administration in the best light? A real head scratcher.


NewsNation is reporting on this story as it develops. I just saw Reuters offer similar coverage.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why even bring up your uncle then? What was the purpose?


He is cackling with delight that shelves will be empty and after the pandemic inflation, the orange sun king will return.

Basically he wants the union to do Trump’s bidding and make Biden Harris look bad.


Have you looked at the Longshoremans’ demands? They don’t mention a single candidate. They are about wages and automation only.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So a month before the election we’re on the verge of a massive dockworker’s strike that will basically shut down US Atlantic ports. This seems like a huge disaster for Biden and Harris. What leverage do they have to step in?


Why should they be stepping in?

These dockworkers have legitimate concerns and grievances. I don’t want Biden/Harris shutting down a labor action that affects real people.

If there’s a strike, then it needs to run as long as necessary for the union to get a fair contract. You HAVE to make a stand.

Biden has not exactly been the best friend to union workers, and staying OUT of this would be the BEST thing he can do.


The dockworkers do at least control the timing of the strike. They could agree on a 3 month extension of the current contract in order to push this past the election. I'm guessing that the union believes threatening a major strike so close to the election will motivate the administration to pressure management for concessions. Either that, or (like the Teamsters) they see their constituency shifting to Trump and this is basically their body blow against the Democrats.



If unions are going to actively conspire to ensure that Democrats lose elections... well, best of luck to them. Can't say I understand the big brain thinking behind sabotaging the only party that cares about unions. But if the longshoremen join the teamsters in advancing the GOP agenda, I think this marks the end of the line for the political relevance of unions. It's like turkeys advocating for thanksgiving.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most amazing thing is the fact that the news isn't really reporting on this in the lead-up.


This should be stated again. Hmmmm now why would the media ignore this huge story that doesn't show the Biden/HARRIS administration in the best light? A real head scratcher.


NewsNation is reporting on this story as it develops. I just saw Reuters offer similar coverage.


PP who initially mentioned this and yes, it's now being reported on. But it's been brewing for a while now. Certainly there were some really big news events in the past week, but it seems like this should have been bigger too.

Though unlike the other PP I don't think this is politically motivated. I just think both right and left leaning new organizations no longer know how to report on something they can't jam into a preferred narrative easily.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most amazing thing is the fact that the news isn't really reporting on this in the lead-up.


This should be stated again. Hmmmm now why would the media ignore this huge story that doesn't show the Biden/HARRIS administration in the best light? A real head scratcher.


Why does the government need to get involved in a strike? Do you not believe in limited government? Either you do or you don’t
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why even bring up your uncle then? What was the purpose?


He is cackling with delight that shelves will be empty and after the pandemic inflation, the orange sun king will return.

Basically he wants the union to do Trump’s bidding and make Biden Harris look bad.

As usual, Republicans want bad things to happen as long as they can get something out of it


And the Democrats backing MAGA candidates in primaries in order to make it easier on their own candidates in the general are different because...?

The Democrats don’t actually want or expect those candidates to be elected, thus their intention is that there never be an opportunity for them to cause harm. That’s very different than hoping a strike and economic harm actually DOES occur. I’m sure you understand the difference.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So a month before the election we’re on the verge of a massive dockworker’s strike that will basically shut down US Atlantic ports. This seems like a huge disaster for Biden and Harris. What leverage do they have to step in?


Why should they be stepping in?

These dockworkers have legitimate concerns and grievances. I don’t want Biden/Harris shutting down a labor action that affects real people.

If there’s a strike, then it needs to run as long as necessary for the union to get a fair contract. You HAVE to make a stand.

Biden has not exactly been the best friend to union workers, and staying OUT of this would be the BEST thing he can do.


The dockworkers do at least control the timing of the strike. They could agree on a 3 month extension of the current contract in order to push this past the election. I'm guessing that the union believes threatening a major strike so close to the election will motivate the administration to pressure management for concessions. Either that, or (like the Teamsters) they see their constituency shifting to Trump and this is basically their body blow against the Democrats.



If unions are going to actively conspire to ensure that Democrats lose elections... well, best of luck to them. Can't say I understand the big brain thinking behind sabotaging the only party that cares about unions. But if the longshoremen join the teamsters in advancing the GOP agenda, I think this marks the end of the line for the political relevance of unions. It's like turkeys advocating for thanksgiving.


This. And no more overtime pay. Trump was quite clear about that.
Anonymous
Unions have no business meddling in politics. This amounts to election interference, trying to destroy the economy a month before the election. They need to be in prison.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most amazing thing is the fact that the news isn't really reporting on this in the lead-up.


This should be stated again. Hmmmm now why would the media ignore this huge story that doesn't show the Biden/HARRIS administration in the best light? A real head scratcher.


Why does the government need to get involved in a strike? Do you not believe in limited government? Either you do or you don’t


Taft Hartley permits the President to intervene to bolster the negotiation. process and avoid a strike. When Biden responded to a question about the strikes in Yemen, absurdly responded he doesn’t believe in Taft Hartley. The abstract point about limited government is a cute argument, but our leaders need to be practical and resolve problems. Moreover the current administration is far from a believer in limited government. A strike will damage the economy and put pressure on inflation (not unusual as after the first round of inflation unions get assertive over wages to catch up on a reduced standard of living). The union’s demand is a 77 percent increase over 5 years - the ports are at 40 percent. But more troubling is the proposed ban on automation. It will make our ports non-competitive- depending on the extent global productivity gains obtain with automation, a likely prospect. Note the parties have not met since June (Biden indicated they were currently negotiating) so there very likely will be a strike. As to the substance, the populace likely has some sympathy for wage increases but not for the automation ban. I don’t think any reasonable person wants to see the economy and people suffer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why even bring up your uncle then? What was the purpose?


He is cackling with delight that shelves will be empty and after the pandemic inflation, the orange sun king will return.

Basically he wants the union to do Trump’s bidding and make Biden Harris look bad.


Make Harris look bad? She does that on her own.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why even bring up your uncle then? What was the purpose?


He is cackling with delight that shelves will be empty and after the pandemic inflation, the orange sun king will return.

Basically he wants the union to do Trump’s bidding and make Biden Harris look bad.


Have you looked at the Longshoremans’ demands? They don’t mention a single candidate. They are about wages and automation only.


State it correctly. They're all about hindering automation.

For you democrats wanting to move forward, you sure fight it tooth and nail when it damages your narrative.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So a month before the election we’re on the verge of a massive dockworker’s strike that will basically shut down US Atlantic ports. This seems like a huge disaster for Biden and Harris. What leverage do they have to step in?


Why should they be stepping in?

These dockworkers have legitimate concerns and grievances. I don’t want Biden/Harris shutting down a labor action that affects real people.

If there’s a strike, then it needs to run as long as necessary for the union to get a fair contract. You HAVE to make a stand.

Biden has not exactly been the best friend to union workers, and staying OUT of this would be the BEST thing he can do.


+1.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why even bring up your uncle then? What was the purpose?


He is cackling with delight that shelves will be empty and after the pandemic inflation, the orange sun king will return.

Basically he wants the union to do Trump’s bidding and make Biden Harris look bad.


Make Harris look bad? She does that on her own.

Seems like she doesn’t if R’s have to stand around hoping there’s a supply chain disaster to hurt her chances.
Anonymous
This is about unions trying to sabotage the economy in order to throw the election to trump. That’s ALL this is.

The average dock worker earns $300,000/yr!!! I have an advanced degree and work in public service and I don’t earn that much! These are basically knuckleheads with no education who operate equipment, they’re overpaid as it is.

This is political interference. The DoJ needs to look into this immediately.
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