Dockworker’s strike

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Tommy’s down on his luck. But fortunately Gina works all day at the diner and brings home her pay. She does dream of running away though. It’s tough.

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Anonymous wrote:So a month before the election we’re on the verge of a massive dockworker’s strike that will basically shut down US Atlantic ports. This seems like a huge disaster for Biden and Harris. What leverage do they have to step in?

Why should they be stepping in?

These dockworkers have legitimate concerns and grievances. I don’t want Biden/Harris shutting down a labor action that affects real people.

If there’s a strike, then it needs to run as long as necessary for the union to get a fair contract. You HAVE to make a stand.

Biden has not exactly been the best friend to union workers, and staying OUT of this would be the BEST thing he can do.

The dockworkers do at least control the timing of the strike. They could agree on a 3 month extension of the current contract in order to push this past the election. I'm guessing that the union believes threatening a major strike so close to the election will motivate the administration to pressure management for concessions. Either that, or (like the Teamsters) they see their constituency shifting to Trump and this is basically their body blow against the Democrats.

If unions are going to actively conspire to ensure that Democrats lose elections... well, best of luck to them. Can't say I understand the big brain thinking behind sabotaging the only party that cares about unions. But if the longshoremen join the teamsters in advancing the GOP agenda, I think this marks the end of the line for the political relevance of unions. It's like turkeys advocating for thanksgiving.

Democrats love unions because of millions of dollars in donations. The people in them? Not so much.

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Anonymous wrote:So a month before the election we’re on the verge of a massive dockworker’s strike that will basically shut down US Atlantic ports. This seems like a huge disaster for Biden and Harris. What leverage do they have to step in?

Why should they be stepping in?

These dockworkers have legitimate concerns and grievances. I don’t want Biden/Harris shutting down a labor action that affects real people.

If there’s a strike, then it needs to run as long as necessary for the union to get a fair contract. You HAVE to make a stand.

Biden has not exactly been the best friend to union workers, and staying OUT of this would be the BEST thing he can do.

The dockworkers do at least control the timing of the strike. They could agree on a 3 month extension of the current contract in order to push this past the election. I'm guessing that the union believes threatening a major strike so close to the election will motivate the administration to pressure management for concessions. Either that, or (like the Teamsters) they see their constituency shifting to Trump and this is basically their body blow against the Democrats.

If unions are going to actively conspire to ensure that Democrats lose elections... well, best of luck to them. Can't say I understand the big brain thinking behind sabotaging the only party that cares about unions. But if the longshoremen join the teamsters in advancing the GOP agenda, I think this marks the end of the line for the political relevance of unions. It's like turkeys advocating for thanksgiving.

Democrats love unions because of millions of dollars in donations. The people in them? Not so much.

Democrats drip with condescension and distain for blue collar workers. Lowly uneducated knuckle draggers. Many are white, so that is just icing on the hate cake.

Hey thanks for implying Democrats are all highly educated, white-collar workers. But don't tell that to all my white, blue-collar relatives in the midwest, 90% of whom are Democrats. They will really get mad at you for insisting they don't exist. They are proud union workers. Only someone who exists in a bubble would think they don't. I suspect you are a white, elite, east coast dweller. And you would know from condescension dripping, as you show your disdain for half the country.

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Anonymous wrote:So a month before the election we’re on the verge of a massive dockworker’s strike that will basically shut down US Atlantic ports. This seems like a huge disaster for Biden and Harris. What leverage do they have to step in?

Why should they be stepping in?

These dockworkers have legitimate concerns and grievances. I don’t want Biden/Harris shutting down a labor action that affects real people.

If there’s a strike, then it needs to run as long as necessary for the union to get a fair contract. You HAVE to make a stand.

Biden has not exactly been the best friend to union workers, and staying OUT of this would be the BEST thing he can do.

The dockworkers do at least control the timing of the strike. They could agree on a 3 month extension of the current contract in order to push this past the election. I'm guessing that the union believes threatening a major strike so close to the election will motivate the administration to pressure management for concessions. Either that, or (like the Teamsters) they see their constituency shifting to Trump and this is basically their body blow against the Democrats.

If unions are going to actively conspire to ensure that Democrats lose elections... well, best of luck to them. Can't say I understand the big brain thinking behind sabotaging the only party that cares about unions. But if the longshoremen join the teamsters in advancing the GOP agenda, I think this marks the end of the line for the political relevance of unions. It's like turkeys advocating for thanksgiving.

Democrats love unions because of millions of dollars in donations. The people in them? Not so much.

Democrats drip with condescension and distain for blue collar workers. Lowly uneducated knuckle draggers. Many are white, so that is just icing on the hate cake.

Meanwhile Donald wants to fire them. He has said so proudly. You can't deny it. Try to sell that to union workers. Trump is a scab.

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Trump is a scab? Are there bots posting? You'd think AI would at least give them the proper definition of a scab.

If anything Democrats have invited in millions of scab workers. How long do you figure until someone proposes migrants take over these jobs since "Americans don't want to work"

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In 2002 George W. Bush invoked the Taft Hartley act on the same dock workers union. It creates an 80 day cooling off period to advance negotiations.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is a scab? Are there bots posting? You'd think AI would at least give them the proper definition of a scab.

If anything Democrats have invited in millions of scab workers. How long do you figure until someone proposes migrants take over these jobs since "Americans don't want to work"

Does Trump like firing striking workers or not? Yes, he does. Does Trump believe in paying overtime? No, he does not. He is completely anti-worker.

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Anonymous wrote:So a month before the election we’re on the verge of a massive dockworker’s strike that will basically shut down US Atlantic ports. This seems like a huge disaster for Biden and Harris. What leverage do they have to step in?

Why should they be stepping in?

These dockworkers have legitimate concerns and grievances. I don’t want Biden/Harris shutting down a labor action that affects real people.

If there’s a strike, then it needs to run as long as necessary for the union to get a fair contract. You HAVE to make a stand.

Biden has not exactly been the best friend to union workers, and staying OUT of this would be the BEST thing he can do.

The dockworkers do at least control the timing of the strike. They could agree on a 3 month extension of the current contract in order to push this past the election. I'm guessing that the union believes threatening a major strike so close to the election will motivate the administration to pressure management for concessions. Either that, or (like the Teamsters) they see their constituency shifting to Trump and this is basically their body blow against the Democrats.

If unions are going to actively conspire to ensure that Democrats lose elections... well, best of luck to them. Can't say I understand the big brain thinking behind sabotaging the only party that cares about unions. But if the longshoremen join the teamsters in advancing the GOP agenda, I think this marks the end of the line for the political relevance of unions. It's like turkeys advocating for thanksgiving.

Democrats love unions because of millions of dollars in donations. The people in them? Not so much.

Democrats drip with condescension and distain for blue collar workers. Lowly uneducated knuckle draggers. Many are white, so that is just icing on the hate cake.

Unions are mostly blue collar workers. the democrats are protecting their jobs and encourage collective bargaining. Do you even hear yourself?

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Anonymous wrote:Biden administration is supporting a free market negotiation between management and labor.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/port-strike-2024-east-coast-workers/

Why would anyone expect Biden to sell out the Union position before the deadline? Negotiations 101, folks.

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Anonymous wrote:We need to automate the ports. It’s that simple. Look at other counties. I’m sorry that some dock worker won’t be able to collect a big salary and then pass the job down to his son, but this is so much bigger. 95% of our goods come by ship. We need efficient supply chains. Keep unions for other jobs not this.

Our ports are primitive. The Asian ports are heavily automated. Maybe Pete can work on this.

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Anonymous wrote:This is about unions trying to sabotage the economy in order to throw the election to trump. That’s ALL this is.

The average dock worker earns $300,000/yr!!! I have an advanced degree and work in public service and I don’t earn that much! These are basically knuckleheads with no education who operate equipment, they’re overpaid as it is.

This is political interference. The DoJ needs to look into this immediately.

Boo Hoo. Hard physical work that provides the commodities and manufactured products necessary for civilization makes more money than your non-essential, sap sucking, parasitic, sloppy, slovenly “work” probably remotely performed in your PJs.

You do know that longshoremen don't unload ships by hand, right? There are... buttons they press.

I mean, it's hard work operating those cranes and repairing them, and so think they should be paid fairly and more than they are. However, they aren't lugging crates on their backs anymore.

It's really too bad the Teamsters don't endorse Democrats anymore, and are aligned more with anti union republicans. Not the way to get a pay increase and better working conditions, folks.

Right? Not sure what the strategy is here. So unions are threatening to deprive the entire Eastern seaboard of food and goods a few weeks before a national election, thereby effectively ensuring a Republican victory in November. Unions have somehow concluded that Trump and the GOP are their natural allies? Never mind that just yesterday Trump was rambling about how much he hates paying overtime. This is who unions have decided to champion.

Brilliant. If I'm a Democrat in office watching this, I would turn on unions so fast - just for the mendacity alone. Clearly, unions are run by morons. Absolutely no one in America is going to side with extremely well-paid longshoremen who are going to be costing this country $5 billion per day with their actions plus food shortages plus a massive inflationary spike. It's blackmail on all Americans. And it effectively becomes a national security crisis.

The Dems flooded the US with over 10 million illegal aliens who compete with union workers for construction jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden administration is supporting a free market negotiation between management and labor.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/port-strike-2024-east-coast-workers/

Why would anyone expect Biden to sell out the Union position before the deadline? Negotiations 101, folks.

The Union workers want 70% pay raises. This means more inflation people.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is a scab? Are there bots posting? You'd think AI would at least give them the proper definition of a scab.

If anything Democrats have invited in millions of scab workers. How long do you figure until someone proposes migrants take over these jobs since "Americans don't want to work"

Does Trump like firing striking workers or not? Yes, he does. Does Trump believe in paying overtime? No, he does not. He is completely anti-worker.

That isn't the definition of a scab. Try Google. Or a high school history book.

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Anonymous wrote:So a month before the election we’re on the verge of a massive dockworker’s strike that will basically shut down US Atlantic ports. This seems like a huge disaster for Biden and Harris. What leverage do they have to step in?

dont worry. your federal government is hard at work, expanding illegal and legal immigration, to keep wages low so inflation is low.

thank you for your Leadership Joe No Borders Biden and Hiding Harris.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden administration is supporting a free market negotiation between management and labor.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/port-strike-2024-east-coast-workers/

Why would anyone expect Biden to sell out the Union position before the deadline? Negotiations 101, folks.

The Union workers want 70% pay raises. This means more inflation people.

how dare those workers want raise? we need to import millions more low wage workers for the Urban Elites.

Contempt

One of the main things that I hear from my fellow tradesmen is how the elite and white-collar professional class don't care about or respect the blue collar working class. This disrespect comes out in many ways, big and small. But you can hear it a lot in the political rhetoric coming out of the progressive side these days. It was there in the COVID conversation, how work-from-home white collar folks pushed for endless lockdowns and vaccine mandates, to be imposed on the working class whose labor they relied on to stay home. It's there in the way they talk about a universal basic income instead of high-paying trade jobs, and in the way they push for low-wage green jobs instead of union energy jobs.

But you can really see it in how they talk about college. Take the latest issue that progressives are pushing the Biden administration on—student loan cancelation. They want us taxpayers to pay off the student loans of the college educated, who on average make more money than those without a degree, and for whom the economy recovered almost immediately post-COVID. Then they have the audacity to tell us that it will help blue collar workers. They want us to enthusiastically agree to pay off their student loan debt, and then have the nerve to tell us it's in our interest as Americans.

That's what I mean about disrespect. And it pervades the entire conversation about college in America today.

https://www.newsweek.com/divide-isnt-right-v-left-its-us-blue-collar-workers-fighting-elite-contempt-opinion-1706053