ED violation

[Anonymous]

OP has not yet confirmed whether there is an ED violation. She’s making assumptions.

She’s just

SO

JEALOUS

[Anonymous]

This happened at my kid’s private parochial school. College counselor refused to send transcripts until the matter was resolved and informed the affected schools of the situation. Student is now in his second year at a CC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m wondering if any action can be taken in this situation. My child is a senior at a MCPS school. Another kid applied and was accepted ED to a top private university. The kid and their parents are refusing to commit to the school and refuse to withdraw other applications.

This week the kid got into an EA school when others didn’t. Do universities share their ED lists? It wasn’t my kid this week, but could easily be later in the cycle.

Family says that it’s for financial reasons but went on an expensive vacation last week.

What is wrong with you?

LOUD AND CLEAR
MYOB

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

OP has not yet confirmed whether there is an ED violation. She’s making assumptions.

She’s just

SO

JEALOUS

Yep this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

OP has not yet confirmed whether there is an ED violation. She’s making assumptions.

She’s just

SO

JEALOUS

+1. DMV parents get crazy desperate sometimes - rather, OFTEN.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, ignore the MYOB jerks. They're probably cheating ED or considering it for their kid.

For those who keep making excuses about finances, most private ED schools use CSS to determine FA, and that would have been done Nov/Dec. So, this person is not likely waiting on FAFSA. Private schools w/ ED get numbers back asap via CSS.

So, say the person couldn't afford the FA at the ED school as some claim. Then they should have withdrawn from that agreement. The can't hold on to the ED acceptance and shop other offers per the agreement they signed. They should also have withdrawn all other apps once admitted if the costs were in line with expectations (NPC).

So, here's what you should do. Go to the resource teacher for counseling and/or the counselor for college admissions. Tell them in general terms you suspect a student is holding an ED while surfing other acceptances and that it is hurting other students at the school. Don't name names. Let the counselor look into it. Then move on.

It's frustrating, but not much more you can do unless you want to band a circle of angry parents together around the offending parent, call out "Who violated the ED agreement" and all chant "She did," pointing a la Handmaid's Tale. That could be cathartic.

OP said public flagship. Which ones use CSS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This happened at my kid’s private parochial school. College counselor refused to send transcripts until the matter was resolved and informed the affected schools of the situation. Student is now in his second year at a CC.

I don't believe for a second that any high school would open themselves to that kind of liability

[Anonymous]

OP you have the right to be annoyed. Unfortunately there are parts of admissions process that favor the dishonest and nothing can really be done about it. Can only hope for some karma later for people like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

OP has not yet confirmed whether there is an ED violation. She’s making assumptions.

She’s just

SO

JEALOUS

ED schools give an "accept by date", but there is also a form to request a later date if you are in discussions with the financial aid office. DC has a friend who was accepted ED with a Jan 15 acceptance deadline. However, the school was not honoring their GI Bill in a manner they agreed with. Parents have to go through all of the steps to request a reevaluation, then board. It has taken weeks. The acceptance date keeps getting pushed back by the financial aid office. The last I heard, Feb 15 is the new date. Their DC didn't pull EA apps (and is concerned because they didn't do any RD). This is all within the "rights" of the ED agreement. OP, maybe the student is scamming the system, but maybe they are going through the process in the proper way and you have no idea.

[Anonymous]

If the kid is playing by the rules, reporting the situation to the proper offices (admissions and college counseling) will have no impact. If she’s not, the schools will be better informed. No harm, no foul.

[Anonymous]

What if the student doesn't communicate with the school, doesn't pull the EA apps and misses the ED deadline to pay a deposit? Will the ED schools still come after them? for what? Will the college cartel (the schools network, school counselor, etc.) penalize the student? Why?

[Anonymous]

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I do not understand.

As long as this student attends his ED institution in the end, and accepts/declines all offers within the requested deadlines… I don’t think there’s anything you can do.

I get you’re salty that they took an EA spot elsewhere, and are waiting for financial aid when ED is supposed to be sure with no strings attached; but you don’t know yet whether they will renege on their deal, so you have nothing concrete to complain about… yet.

Or I am missing something?

(The vacation is irrelevant. It’s much cheaper than cost of attendance.)

Read the ED agreement to get some understanding. It’s very simple.

I’m not going to. My kid did not use ED, and got in RD. I’ve never read an ED agreement. Enlighten me. Does the ED agreement say in black and white the student has until X day to withdraw other apps and formally accept their ED school? If the student is still within the contract timeframe, you have no grounds for complaint. If not, you do.

The ED agreement is 2 sentences. Maybe you could have read and understood it in the time you took to come here with your misunderstandings?

Maybe you could have posted it instead of criticizing other posters and seething at this kid, OP?

We’re not the ones suffering here, you are. So much so you’re itching to tell on them and can’t abide that people aren’t being taking your side!

Really, you’re becoming quite amusing

Go ahead and out this family. Tell us how that goes.

That's not OP you're responding to. There are others who thing you should just read the agreement before you charge here to shout your umbrage.

[Anonymous]

Please see article:
Early Decision Isn’t Binding. Let Us Explain.

If you can’t afford the price a college quotes you, you don’t have to go. We corrected an N.Y.U. blog post and rewrote the Common App for you.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/18/your-money/paying-for-college/early-decision-binding-nyu.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, ignore the MYOB jerks. They're probably cheating ED or considering it for their kid.

For those who keep making excuses about finances, most private ED schools use CSS to determine FA, and that would have been done Nov/Dec. So, this person is not likely waiting on FAFSA. Private schools w/ ED get numbers back asap via CSS.

So, say the person couldn't afford the FA at the ED school as some claim. Then they should have withdrawn from that agreement. The can't hold on to the ED acceptance and shop other offers per the agreement they signed. They should also have withdrawn all other apps once admitted if the costs were in line with expectations (NPC).

So, here's what you should do. Go to the resource teacher for counseling and/or the counselor for college admissions. Tell them in general terms you suspect a student is holding an ED while surfing other acceptances and that it is hurting other students at the school. Don't name names. Let the counselor look into it. Then move on.

It's frustrating, but not much more you can do unless you want to band a circle of angry parents together around the offending parent, call out "Who violated the ED agreement" and all chant "She did," pointing a la Handmaid's Tale. That could be cathartic.

OP said public flagship. Which ones use CSS?

UVA does. So does UNC, which is the school I immediately thought of when OP mentioned state flagship and low OOS admit rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, ignore the MYOB jerks. They're probably cheating ED or considering it for their kid.

For those who keep making excuses about finances, most private ED schools use CSS to determine FA, and that would have been done Nov/Dec. So, this person is not likely waiting on FAFSA. Private schools w/ ED get numbers back asap via CSS.

So, say the person couldn't afford the FA at the ED school as some claim. Then they should have withdrawn from that agreement. The can't hold on to the ED acceptance and shop other offers per the agreement they signed. They should also have withdrawn all other apps once admitted if the costs were in line with expectations (NPC).

So, here's what you should do. Go to the resource teacher for counseling and/or the counselor for college admissions. Tell them in general terms you suspect a student is holding an ED while surfing other acceptances and that it is hurting other students at the school. Don't name names. Let the counselor look into it. Then move on.

It's frustrating, but not much more you can do unless you want to band a circle of angry parents together around the offending parent, call out "Who violated the ED agreement" and all chant "She did," pointing a la Handmaid's Tale. That could be cathartic.

OP said public flagship. Which ones use CSS?

UVA does. So does UNC, which is the school I immediately thought of when OP mentioned state flagship and low OOS admit rate.

OP says in first post kid in question got into a top private d school ED. Why are you discussing public universities?