ED violation

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I do not understand.

As long as this student attends his ED institution in the end, and accepts/declines all offers within the requested deadlines… I don’t think there’s anything you can do.

I get you’re salty that they took an EA spot elsewhere, and are waiting for financial aid when ED is supposed to be sure with no strings attached; but you don’t know yet whether they will renege on their deal, so you have nothing concrete to complain about… yet.

Or I am missing something?

(The vacation is irrelevant. It’s much cheaper than cost of attendance.)

Read the ED agreement to get some understanding. It’s very simple.


I’m not going to. My kid did not use ED, and got in RD. I’ve never read an ED agreement. Enlighten me. Does the ED agreement say in black and white the student has until X day to withdraw other apps and formally accept their ED school? If the student is still within the contract timeframe, you have no grounds for complaint. If not, you do.



LOL, what?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m wondering if any action can be taken in this situation. My child is a senior at a MCPS school. Another kid applied and was accepted ED to a top private university. The kid and their parents are refusing to commit to the school and refuse to withdraw other applications.

This week the kid got into an EA school when others didn’t. Do universities share their ED lists? It wasn’t my kid this week, but could easily be later in the cycle.

Family says that it’s for financial reasons but went on an expensive vacation last week.


Stop already. Leave it alone.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would say something to college guidance.

Colleges will sometimes blacklist a high school the following year if this happens. You are likely harming kids in the grade behind you. We saw this happen at our private school for one popular university when a former student screwed them over.


Bull. Show us the evidence or it never happens.


This happened to my high school when a student in the class above me was nominated and was offered one of those special 100% full ride (room, board, tuition, special summer internships, etc) scholarships and turned it down to go to Princeton (think Moorhead, Echols, etc). She had lied about her commitment to go to the scholarship schools, which is a big, fancy school often discussed on DCUM but she apparently wanted to go to Princeton instead.

That university didn’t accept students from our school for about 5 years. It’s a medium size private in Virginia (not in the DMV). So it definitely can happen.


Is this private or public HS? OP is talking about a HS in MCPS which probably have a lot of students.

Yes, however in MCPS not as many apply ED so that would be noticed and remembered by a SLAC, for instance.
Not noted by a very large university perhaps, but spoils the reputation of a school with SLACs and the area rep.
Anonymous
Should be between the schools and the family.

Our school states that if you are accepted ED they will only send final transcripts to that one school. They don't want blow back from colleges.
Anonymous
Chat GPT Answer on how to contact the schools anonymously.


### Step 1: Create an Anonymous Email Account
- **Select a Secure Email Provider:** Choose a reputable email provider that prioritizes user privacy and security. Some providers offer features that enhance anonymity, such as not requiring personal information during the signup process.
- **Create a New Email Address:** When creating your email address, don't use any part of your name or information that can be traced back to you. Choose a generic combination of letters and numbers.

### Step 2: Draft Your Email
- **Be Concise and Professional:** Clearly state your concern without unnecessary details. Focus on the fact that you're reporting a potential breach of the ED agreement, which is a serious matter in college admissions ethics.
- **Avoid Personal Details:** Do not include any information about yourself. The focus should be solely on the issue at hand.
- **Provide Specifics:** Without revealing your identity, give enough detail about the situation to be credible. Mention the university the student was accepted to under ED and the fact that they are not withdrawing other applications. Avoid speculative language and stick to the facts.

### Step 3: Send the Email
- **Find the Admissions Office Email Address:** Look up the official email address of the admissions office of the university in question. This information is typically available on the university's website.
- **Use BCC if Sending to Multiple Addresses:** If you're informing more than one institution (e.g., other universities where the student has applied), use the BCC field to keep the recipients' addresses hidden from each other.
- **Send the Email:** Once you've reviewed your email for clarity and anonymity, send it to the appropriate admissions office(s).

### Considerations
- **Impact and Ethics:** Consider the potential impact of your action on the student and their future. An anonymous tip can have serious consequences, so ensure your motivations are ethical and the issue is significant enough to warrant reporting.
- **Evidence:** You might not be able to provide concrete evidence, but the admissions office may take note and review the student's commitment more closely.
- **Follow-Up:** As an anonymous reporter, you won't be able to follow up or know the outcome of your report. The admissions office will handle the matter internally and confidentially.

### Example Email Template
```
Subject: Concern Regarding Early Decision Agreement Compliance

Dear Admissions Office,

I wish to bring to your attention a matter concerning an applicant who has been accepted to your institution under the Early Decision agreement. It has come to my understanding that this individual has not withdrawn their applications from other universities, which is in violation of the Early Decision commitment.

While I prefer to remain anonymous to avoid any potential repercussions, I believe it is important for the integrity of the admissions process that this issue is reviewed. The applicant in question was accepted under the Early Decision program for the upcoming academic year.

I trust that your institution will handle this matter with the appropriate discretion and thoroughness it requires.

Sincerely,

A Concerned Observer
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I do not understand.

As long as this student attends his ED institution in the end, and accepts/declines all offers within the requested deadlines… I don’t think there’s anything you can do.

I get you’re salty that they took an EA spot elsewhere, and are waiting for financial aid when ED is supposed to be sure with no strings attached; but you don’t know yet whether they will renege on their deal, so you have nothing concrete to complain about… yet.

Or I am missing something?

(The vacation is irrelevant. It’s much cheaper than cost of attendance.)

Read the ED agreement to get some understanding. It’s very simple.


I’m not going to. My kid did not use ED, and got in RD. I’ve never read an ED agreement. Enlighten me. Does the ED agreement say in black and white the student has until X day to withdraw other apps and formally accept their ED school? If the student is still within the contract timeframe, you have no grounds for complaint. If not, you do.


Then continue your lazy ignorance.
I don’t understand?


I conclude you have no grounds to complain.


Lazy ignorant conclusion.
We read, understood and signed the ED agreement. DS accepted his ED1 offer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Chat GPT Answer on how to contact the schools anonymously.


### Step 1: Create an Anonymous Email Account
- **Select a Secure Email Provider:** Choose a reputable email provider that prioritizes user privacy and security. Some providers offer features that enhance anonymity, such as not requiring personal information during the signup process.
- **Create a New Email Address:** When creating your email address, don't use any part of your name or information that can be traced back to you. Choose a generic combination of letters and numbers.

### Step 2: Draft Your Email
- **Be Concise and Professional:** Clearly state your concern without unnecessary details. Focus on the fact that you're reporting a potential breach of the ED agreement, which is a serious matter in college admissions ethics.
- **Avoid Personal Details:** Do not include any information about yourself. The focus should be solely on the issue at hand.
- **Provide Specifics:** Without revealing your identity, give enough detail about the situation to be credible. Mention the university the student was accepted to under ED and the fact that they are not withdrawing other applications. Avoid speculative language and stick to the facts.

### Step 3: Send the Email
- **Find the Admissions Office Email Address:** Look up the official email address of the admissions office of the university in question. This information is typically available on the university's website.
- **Use BCC if Sending to Multiple Addresses:** If you're informing more than one institution (e.g., other universities where the student has applied), use the BCC field to keep the recipients' addresses hidden from each other.
- **Send the Email:** Once you've reviewed your email for clarity and anonymity, send it to the appropriate admissions office(s).

### Considerations
- **Impact and Ethics:** Consider the potential impact of your action on the student and their future. An anonymous tip can have serious consequences, so ensure your motivations are ethical and the issue is significant enough to warrant reporting.
- **Evidence:** You might not be able to provide concrete evidence, but the admissions office may take note and review the student's commitment more closely.
- **Follow-Up:** As an anonymous reporter, you won't be able to follow up or know the outcome of your report. The admissions office will handle the matter internally and confidentially.

### Example Email Template
```
Subject: Concern Regarding Early Decision Agreement Compliance

Dear Admissions Office,

I wish to bring to your attention a matter concerning an applicant who has been accepted to your institution under the Early Decision agreement. It has come to my understanding that this individual has not withdrawn their applications from other universities, which is in violation of the Early Decision commitment.

While I prefer to remain anonymous to avoid any potential repercussions, I believe it is important for the integrity of the admissions process that this issue is reviewed. The applicant in question was accepted under the Early Decision program for the upcoming academic year.

I trust that your institution will handle this matter with the appropriate discretion and thoroughness it requires.

Sincerely,

A Concerned Observer



I would do the above in a heartbeat if I had reason to believe that a student was violating their ED agreement.
Anonymous
OP you'd have cleaned up during McCarthyism
Anonymous
Focus on your own child . Schools take things like this into account when they make their admission decisions.

Try to get a more healthy mindset. Your child will find a place. Chill.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I do not understand.

As long as this student attends his ED institution in the end, and accepts/declines all offers within the requested deadlines… I don’t think there’s anything you can do.

I get you’re salty that they took an EA spot elsewhere, and are waiting for financial aid when ED is supposed to be sure with no strings attached; but you don’t know yet whether they will renege on their deal, so you have nothing concrete to complain about… yet.

Or I am missing something?

(The vacation is irrelevant. It’s much cheaper than cost of attendance.)

Read the ED agreement to get some understanding. It’s very simple.


I’m not going to. My kid did not use ED, and got in RD. I’ve never read an ED agreement. Enlighten me. Does the ED agreement say in black and white the student has until X day to withdraw other apps and formally accept their ED school? If the student is still within the contract timeframe, you have no grounds for complaint. If not, you do.

The ED agreement is 2 sentences. Maybe you could have read and understood it in the time you took to come here with your misunderstandings?
Anonymous
Just let karma do its job. This kid will probably get stood up at the altar in 10 years. Their fiancé will decide they want to hold out for better ($$$) offers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Should be between the schools and the family.

Our school states that if you are accepted ED they will only send final transcripts to that one school. They don't want blow back from colleges.


Yes, because someone who violated ED for anything other than proven financial reasons does cause blowback on the school and future years of applicants. An unethical person is screwing the next 5+ years of kids from their HS
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Chat GPT Answer on how to contact the schools anonymously.


### Step 1: Create an Anonymous Email Account
- **Select a Secure Email Provider:** Choose a reputable email provider that prioritizes user privacy and security. Some providers offer features that enhance anonymity, such as not requiring personal information during the signup process.
- **Create a New Email Address:** When creating your email address, don't use any part of your name or information that can be traced back to you. Choose a generic combination of letters and numbers.

### Step 2: Draft Your Email
- **Be Concise and Professional:** Clearly state your concern without unnecessary details. Focus on the fact that you're reporting a potential breach of the ED agreement, which is a serious matter in college admissions ethics.
- **Avoid Personal Details:** Do not include any information about yourself. The focus should be solely on the issue at hand.
- **Provide Specifics:** Without revealing your identity, give enough detail about the situation to be credible. Mention the university the student was accepted to under ED and the fact that they are not withdrawing other applications. Avoid speculative language and stick to the facts.

### Step 3: Send the Email
- **Find the Admissions Office Email Address:** Look up the official email address of the admissions office of the university in question. This information is typically available on the university's website.
- **Use BCC if Sending to Multiple Addresses:** If you're informing more than one institution (e.g., other universities where the student has applied), use the BCC field to keep the recipients' addresses hidden from each other.
- **Send the Email:** Once you've reviewed your email for clarity and anonymity, send it to the appropriate admissions office(s).

### Considerations
- **Impact and Ethics:** Consider the potential impact of your action on the student and their future. An anonymous tip can have serious consequences, so ensure your motivations are ethical and the issue is significant enough to warrant reporting.
- **Evidence:** You might not be able to provide concrete evidence, but the admissions office may take note and review the student's commitment more closely.
- **Follow-Up:** As an anonymous reporter, you won't be able to follow up or know the outcome of your report. The admissions office will handle the matter internally and confidentially.

### Example Email Template
```
Subject: Concern Regarding Early Decision Agreement Compliance

Dear Admissions Office,

I wish to bring to your attention a matter concerning an applicant who has been accepted to your institution under the Early Decision agreement. It has come to my understanding that this individual has not withdrawn their applications from other universities, which is in violation of the Early Decision commitment.

While I prefer to remain anonymous to avoid any potential repercussions, I believe it is important for the integrity of the admissions process that this issue is reviewed. The applicant in question was accepted under the Early Decision program for the upcoming academic year.

I trust that your institution will handle this matter with the appropriate discretion and thoroughness it requires.

Sincerely,

A Concerned Observer



I would do the above in a heartbeat if I had reason to believe that a student was violating their ED agreement.


But there is no violation yet OP is speculating like earlier poster said there is no deadline or specific date give by the ED school, and the student has chosen to decide to go to EA school. It is not the NPC is exact financial package that the school give you so family may be waiting financial package.
Anonymous
the ED school would have provided the FA package. these are all CSS schools or large enough public schools that can commit to a FA package with out FAFSA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I do not understand.

As long as this student attends his ED institution in the end, and accepts/declines all offers within the requested deadlines… I don’t think there’s anything you can do.

I get you’re salty that they took an EA spot elsewhere, and are waiting for financial aid when ED is supposed to be sure with no strings attached; but you don’t know yet whether they will renege on their deal, so you have nothing concrete to complain about… yet.

Or I am missing something?

(The vacation is irrelevant. It’s much cheaper than cost of attendance.)

Read the ED agreement to get some understanding. It’s very simple.


I’m not going to. My kid did not use ED, and got in RD. I’ve never read an ED agreement. Enlighten me. Does the ED agreement say in black and white the student has until X day to withdraw other apps and formally accept their ED school? If the student is still within the contract timeframe, you have no grounds for complaint. If not, you do.

The ED agreement is 2 sentences. Maybe you could have read and understood it in the time you took to come here with your misunderstandings?


Maybe you could have posted it instead of criticizing other posters and seething at this kid, OP?

We’re not the ones suffering here, you are. So much so you’re itching to tell on them and can’t abide that people aren’t being taking your side!

Really, you’re becoming quite amusing

Go ahead and out this family. Tell us how that goes.

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