| OP: I have a friend (49) who makes about 500, is a SMBC of two, and would love a partner like you who she could easily support. What say you? |
Average size P doesn't matter cut/uncut, height at least 6'2, brunette, six pack, can support an intellectual conversation, great manners |
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OP from the responses you have seen so far wealthy women have no time for you.
On the other hand though a broke woman will have better luck finding a wealthy man. |
different high-earning woman PP here. agree on P - size is just a crutch, unnecessary if you know how to use what you have (and please me without it, too!). I’m petite so 5’10” would be tall enough for me, I dont mind light hair, fit and solid is an absolute must - dont need a visible 6-pack but dad-bod is a non-starter. Agree with the other things - and sense of humor/likes to have fun. |
| They will not be interested in you. Move on. And I call troll! |
Good luck, but remember that women still make .70 for every dollar a man makes. |
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I want to hear women’s opinion regarding the point I am making below.
If out of every 100 Bachelor degrees 74 are awarded to women and since college degree earners earn more than non college degree earners then how are those men with only a high school education supposed to climb the ladder. Soon women will make more than men and if we go by the attitude of the women on here regarding men who earn less than women then our society is in trouble. Some of the assumptions that these men will offer *nothing* yet expect the higher earning women to still cook, clean, shop, plan etc is not necessarily accurate. Men today know that women expect them to take on an increasing share of household responsibilities and most are doing so but somehow it is dismissed. The patriarchy does not benefit all men. It benefits a few men who are at the top of the economic ladder. So I think higher earning women should be more open minded about dating men who earn less. |
Correction: 74 men received a bachelor's degree for every 100 women |
Wow I didn’t know about this data. If this statistics is accurate then the PP made some important observations. |
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https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/03/01/gender-pay-gap-facts/
Some interesting data. The pay gap is narrowing and given the disparity in college attainment the gap will be narrowing even further. But what will this mean? Does it mean the same men will be pursued by a larger group of women as long as women *refuse* to pursue those less educated (and earning less ) then them? The next 10 years will be interesting |
High earning woman here. I’m middle aged and divorced, educated during a time when those numbers were closer to 50/50. Ex-H and I traded back and forth who made more during our 20 years together, and that was never an issue. What WAS an issue is his mother had always taken care of everything for him, so he was kind of helpless. He took on more household responsibilities than his dad did (his dad was an MD and his mom stayed home, so the bar is low) but he always needed instruction and never thought it was his responsibility to OWN the household stuff. Like, I would plan the menus and do the shopping list. He could do the shopping, but then if I asked him to start dinner he’d always ask what specifically to do - as if we didnt have the same 10-15 meals week after week. The ‘mental load’ is exhausting and frustrating, and virtually all of my peers complain about it. I really hope you’re right that men are taking on an increasing share. I’m raising my boys to do that, and now that I’m divorced their dad is forced to cook and shop and run a household so they have something of a role model there, but it was definitely not the norm in my generation. |
Thank you for eloquently sharing your take on this. I am going through a divorce and your household dynamics is a mirror image of mine. At first I was combative when DW asked for a divorce. But upon reflecting on my marriage I realized she just got exhausted for the same reasons you listed. I am 43 and I am sure many men my generation are going though the same thing. |
| Are you hung like horse and ready to be treated like crap? |
good for you for being honest with yourself about this. I realize there are all sorts of gender dynamics at play here - like I know most men dont care about a perfectly organized house or decorated christmas tree or whatever and therefore don’t feel they should have to do half of that work, and some of that may be fair… but there is also the ‘i took out the garbage, why are you mad?’ ‘because i had to ask you 3 times and it’s overflowing - i’d much rather you REALIZE it’s overflowing and just take it out!’ conversation. add in kids and the stress multiplies (someone needs to notice they need new clothes, order them, have them tried on, return them, etc). Honestly - give me a 50% partner in all of life’s drudgery and money is a total non-issue. |
| None, bc this is an obvious troll. |