Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saw the video taken before this where the white woman chased her around the store shouting “you’re assaulting me!” It was actually nuts. I am on the black woman’s side.


I did too. The black woman clearly filmed to protect herself against crazy accusations. Good for her.

Who would have been believed without video footage?


Bullshit. She recorded it to post it for clout. Which is obvious since that’s what she did. Not in response to “crazy accusations.” For clout.


She posted it on her own TikTok, to which TikTok quickly disabled and even banned the woman from her own account. It didn’t pick up speed until a third-party posted the video! And yes, this is blatant racism. Even as a white woman, I can see this clearly. It’s disgusting how Trump’s America can see this video and state that the woman being swatted at should have to leave the store. She was minding her business, shopping, when she was verbally and physically assaulted by this whackadoo!

Latest story is now, somehow, this white woman was able to successfully press charges on the person recording! If you can’t handle society and have an anxiety attack every time you leave your house, perhaps you shouldn’t ever leave your house or you should be locked in an asylum! Freaking psycho nutcase!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saw the video taken before this where the white woman chased her around the store shouting “you’re assaulting me!” It was actually nuts. I am on the black woman’s side.


I did too. The black woman clearly filmed to protect herself against crazy accusations. Good for her.

Who would have been believed without video footage?


Bullshit. She recorded it to post it for clout. Which is obvious since that’s what she did. Not in response to “crazy accusations.” For clout.


She posted it on her own TikTok, to which TikTok quickly disabled and even banned the woman from her own account. It didn’t pick up speed until a third-party posted the video! And yes, this is blatant racism. Even as a white woman, I can see this clearly. It’s disgusting how Trump’s America can see this video and state that the woman being swatted at should have to leave the store. She was minding her business, shopping, when she was verbally and physically assaulted by this whackadoo!

Latest story is now, somehow, this white woman was able to successfully press charges on the person recording! If you can’t handle society and have an anxiety attack every time you leave your house, perhaps you shouldn’t ever leave your house or you should be locked in an asylum! Freaking psycho nutcase!


How sad that a black woman harassed a disabled white woman for clicks and kicks. There's no glory in that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Like so many others, I saw all the videos associate with this incident and think the black woman was in the wrong. Sure, you can video to protect yourself if there’s a lack of clarity in what occurred. But to post the video online, act like a victim and raise money? That’s so dumb when you can see this white woman is disabled, mentally unwell, and frankly wasn’t even the aggressor in this situation. Trying to slap the phone out of the black woman's hand was not ideal but was also not assault. I’ve seen many of these “Karen” videos in the past where the “Karen” was at fault, but this one I cannot agree with.


Oh come on! Anytime you put your hands on another person, unwarranted, it is considered assault. Hell, throwing water on a person is also considered assault.

Any reasonable person who feels threatened in public has a right to record what is happening. In fact, no one should have the reasonable expectation for privacy in a public forum. Anyone can record any person whenever and wherever they choose, no matter if the person “gives permission”.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What prompted the white woman to approach the black woman and try to slap her camera to get her to stop filming?

The black woman was clearly trying to escalate the situation in an attempt to create a viral Karen situation and a payday.

Apparently it worked! $100k+ via go fund me…for what exactly?

She bullied a mentally ill woman.

I hope the white lady gets relief from the court. Nobody is safe if any person can whip out a camera phone and provoke a response with the goal of going viral and getting a payday. Enough already!


There’s no case as there’s no expectation of privacy while in a public place. Only one person was assaulted and that ain’t Elphick.


Neither was assaulted.

People with disabilities should be protected, not publicly victimized.

Ask yourself if that grown woman recording while clearly trying to escalate would have been within her rights had it been a teenager or someone with Downs Syndrome.

That woman got her payday. What more does she want?

And what does the black community think of this? Are they cool with her equating this to “that’s how black people get killed”? Are they cool with her obvious attempt to provoke an incident to go viral and “get paid”?

So embarrassing.


Just so you know, there’s no quarterly meeting — or whatever you were imagining, where the entire “Black Community” — whoever you’re imagining, meets together to put out unified opinions.

The embarrassing thing is your assumptions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Like so many others, I saw all the videos associate with this incident and think the black woman was in the wrong. Sure, you can video to protect yourself if there’s a lack of clarity in what occurred. But to post the video online, act like a victim and raise money? That’s so dumb when you can see this white woman is disabled, mentally unwell, and frankly wasn’t even the aggressor in this situation. Trying to slap the phone out of the black woman's hand was not ideal but was also not assault. I’ve seen many of these “Karen” videos in the past where the “Karen” was at fault, but this one I cannot agree with.


Oh come on! Anytime you put your hands on another person, unwarranted, it is considered assault. Hell, throwing water on a person is also considered assault.

Any reasonable person who feels threatened in public has a right to record what is happening. In fact, no one should have the reasonable expectation for privacy in a public forum. Anyone can record any person whenever and wherever they choose, no matter if the person “gives permission”.


So take it to the police. Why make it public? It wasn’t like she was injured.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What prompted the white woman to approach the black woman and try to slap her camera to get her to stop filming?

The black woman was clearly trying to escalate the situation in an attempt to create a viral Karen situation and a payday.

Apparently it worked! $100k+ via go fund me…for what exactly?

She bullied a mentally ill woman.

I hope the white lady gets relief from the court. Nobody is safe if any person can whip out a camera phone and provoke a response with the goal of going viral and getting a payday. Enough already!


There’s no case as there’s no expectation of privacy while in a public place. Only one person was assaulted and that ain’t Elphick.


Neither was assaulted.

People with disabilities should be protected, not publicly victimized.

Ask yourself if that grown woman recording while clearly trying to escalate would have been within her rights had it been a teenager or someone with Downs Syndrome.

That woman got her payday. What more does she want?

And what does the black community think of this? Are they cool with her equating this to “that’s how black people get killed”? Are they cool with her obvious attempt to provoke an incident to go viral and “get paid”?

So embarrassing.


Just so you know, there’s no quarterly meeting — or whatever you were imagining, where the entire “Black Community” — whoever you’re imagining, meets together to put out unified opinions.

The embarrassing thing is your assumptions.


Likewise white people aren’t colluding in secret meetings to conspire against others.
Anonymous
Good for the woman suing the filmer who monetized the interaction.

Disgusting behavior.

Definitely the new fender bender scam.

This is not helping racial relations. It is creating continuing divides and stirring the pot. This is not helping anyone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Whatever disabilities one has, they don't exempt you from civility or consequence. If your mental illness prevents you from being cordial with people in public, then you should refrain from going in public. Or, you accept the consequences of your behavior. I'm tired of people using mental illness as an excuse for crappy behavior.

Behave like you're being filmed at all times, and people would be a lot more decent with one another.



Your post is contradicts itself, because most reasonable people understand that it is neither civil nor to decent to film other people even if they are *gasp* in public.
Anonymous
This white woman assaulted a black woman and then tried to make herself look like the victim to protect herself from the ramifications of the assault she committed. This has been going on for centuries. Which is a huge part of why the recording was made -- it's pretty clear that that woman's meltdown was self-protective and that she -- the aggressor here -- would look to the police for "protection." With this kind of she said/she said and the racism shown by police departments? Hell yes, get out the phone and record.

I have a serious mental illness myself, and I have zero sympathy for this bs. Zero.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This white woman assaulted a black woman and then tried to make herself look like the victim to protect herself from the ramifications of the assault she committed. This has been going on for centuries. Which is a huge part of why the recording was made -- it's pretty clear that that woman's meltdown was self-protective and that she -- the aggressor here -- would look to the police for "protection." With this kind of she said/she said and the racism shown by police departments? Hell yes, get out the phone and record.

I have a serious mental illness myself, and I have zero sympathy for this bs. Zero.
Sounds like a lack of empathy might be part of your mental illness.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hard to tell what happened initially but once it became clear she was mentally ill, pretty disgusting behavior to monetize this and then file a lawsuit.


The mentally ill last filed a lawsuit.
Maybe if cops stopped killing folks, the black victim wouldn't have felt the need to record the interaction for her own protection.

Maybe if the mentally disabled person had sufficient care, she wouldn't be out in public alone creating chaos.

This what people mean when the talk about "systemic" problems that aren't an individual's fault.


Cops kill more mentally ill people of all races than they do anyone else. And they usually don’t run, they’re usually confused and can’t follow orders.

We start to blame racism for every thing it loses its value as a real issue.

I wouldn’t even use the word victim when no one was hurt. The woman videotaping was over the top dramatic on purpose. “SHE TRIED TO HIT ME!!!!” When she was only trying to make the recording stop.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Firmly on the side of the filmer.

If she didn't record it, the filmer would probably have been arrested and accused of threatening the blonde woman. This is precisely the kind of situation where filming is warranted, to protect oneself.

And sorry, I don't care how mentally ill one is. If you cannot interact with others safely, then you don't belong in public. Your rights do not trump others rights to not be attacked, harassed, screamed at, followed, or wrongfully blamed.


The inability to think logically is pretty strong here. The disabled woman only got upset because she had a camera staring straight at her filming her. The disabled woman called the police because the agitator was filming her.
If she had kept her phone in her bag there would be no incident. Why would she be arrested for threatening her? There were plenty of witnesses to verify that she did not threaten her. There was zero chance of her getting arrested.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This white woman assaulted a black woman and then tried to make herself look like the victim to protect herself from the ramifications of the assault she committed. This has been going on for centuries. Which is a huge part of why the recording was made -- it's pretty clear that that woman's meltdown was self-protective and that she -- the aggressor here -- would look to the police for "protection." With this kind of she said/she said and the racism shown by police departments? Hell yes, get out the phone and record.

I have a serious mental illness myself, and I have zero sympathy for this bs. Zero.

Agree 100%. The black woman knows that if anyone calls the police, SHE is the one at risk. So her only “protection” is to film the situation.
Anonymous
Anybody who still shops at Vicky’s Secret is stuck in the 2000s
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Black women are getting a bad rap lately because of these shake downs. It’s very sad to think that an opportunist like this agitator hurts all black women.

How?
I don’t know this woman and not involved with anything she Dior’s so exactly how does she hurt me as another black woman?
Does Ruby Frankie, Melania Trump or the Michigan shooter’s mom taint all white women?
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