Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As the mother of kids with disabilities, the woman's behavior may be explained by her disability, it does not excuse it.

Does having a breakdown caused by the fact that she is moderately autistic (yes, I know this as a fact as a relative who's known her all her life) with depression and anxiety merit her and her entire family receiving death and rape threats for years?

If you say "yes", you are revolting.

What if her breakdown involved assaulting someone or damaging property? She would be liable we and would need to be institutionalized until she was not deemed a threat. If you are in public you are responsible for your behavior towards others and if you cannot behave respond you should not be in public unescorted. We can’t assume everyone verbally or physically threatening us has a great excuse or is really just harmless. You don’t have the right to harass people just because you have an illness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the mother of kids with disabilities, the woman's behavior may be explained by her disability, it does not excuse it.

Does having a breakdown caused by the fact that she is moderately autistic (yes, I know this as a fact as a relative who's known her all her life) with depression and anxiety merit her and her entire family receiving death and rape threats for years?

If you say "yes", you are revolting.

What if her breakdown involved assaulting someone or damaging property? She would be liable we and would need to be institutionalized until she was not deemed a threat. If you are in public you are responsible for your behavior towards others and if you cannot behave respond you should not be in public unescorted. We can’t assume everyone verbally or physically threatening us has a great excuse or is really just harmless. You don’t have the right to harass people just because you have an illness.

You also don’t have the right to have no inconveniences in your life. It’s a big wide world, learn to cope.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.

I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.

Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.

No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.

Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?

Anyone can film you in public at any time. All of these incidents with racists always become about the white person insisting it is illegal for them to be filmed because they are horrified that they got caught showing themselves. In almost every famous incident the white person has to turn things around to justify themselves and begin howling about how being filmed is against the law when the reality is that they were filmed assaulting an innocent party which is illegal. The filming is not illegal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Team filmer. Mental illness or not, it's good that this type of behavior from spoiled, entitled white women is being exposed so that minorities can protect themselves.

These types of women are expert at weaponizing their "purity" and masking their aggression. Expose the behavior. Film away.

Without the camera nobody would care about "mental illness" when the filmer got arrested.

Nope.

Exhibit 500000000000000 of how awful we are to people with mental illness in this country. Shame on you.

PP is 100 % right. That woman began her meltdown when she realized the victim filmed her hitting her. She began the acting then.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.

I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.

Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.

No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.

Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?

Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.

There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.

You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team filmer. Mental illness or not, it's good that this type of behavior from spoiled, entitled white women is being exposed so that minorities can protect themselves.

These types of women are expert at weaponizing their "purity" and masking their aggression. Expose the behavior. Film away.

Without the camera nobody would care about "mental illness" when the filmer got arrested.

Nope.

Exhibit 500000000000000 of how awful we are to people with mental illness in this country. Shame on you.

PP is 100 % right. That woman began her meltdown when she realized the victim filmed her hitting her. She began the acting then.

People are nuts. Next person you pull the filming in might stab or shoot you. Do this at your own risk.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.

I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.

Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.

No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.

Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?

Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.

There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.

You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.

She lives in a home for people with developmental disabilities. But sure she was faking it. What kind of person picks on the disabled?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.

I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.

Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.

No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.

Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?

Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.

There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.

You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.

Are we seeing the same video? The woman filming is sadistically enjoying provoking that crazy person. You can hear in her voice that she is enjoying causing someone else pain.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.

I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.

Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.

No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.

Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?

Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.

There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.

You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.

She lives in a home for people with developmental disabilities. But sure she was faking it. What kind of person picks on the disabled?

No one was picking on her. She was bullying the black woman. She was ignoring covid protocols and was on top of the black woman then became an azz when she was called out for that. She began the fit after she hit the woman and realized she was recorded. It's utterly sick that you keep twisting this to say that people are picking on the white woman. I would have recorded her and expected her to be charged for assaulting me.

You are warped.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.

I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.

Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.

No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.

Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?

Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.

There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.

You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.

She lives in a home for people with developmental disabilities. But sure she was faking it. What kind of person picks on the disabled?

DP.

What kind of person thinks you should be able to assault and hit people in public without repercussion, because you have a disability?

Saying people should just take it, is called abuse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.

I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.

Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.

No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.

Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?

Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.

There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.

You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.

Are we seeing the same video? The woman filming is sadistically enjoying provoking that crazy person. You can hear in her voice that she is enjoying causing someone else pain.[/quote

She was in shock watching that woman act like a maniac and knew if she left or didn't record, the police would be visiting her for the lies the white woman was making up. Why did the white woman keep saying the black woman was assaulting her? Explain that.

Why did the white woman lie and say the black woman wouldn't leave her alone and was assaulting her? She knew her white privilege would mean the police would believe her lies. Just like the Central Park racist, she kept insisting she was being assaulted when she was the one breaking the law.

So much damn white privilege here. Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.

I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.

Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.

No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.

Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?

Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.

There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.

You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.

Are we seeing the same video? The woman filming is sadistically enjoying provoking that crazy person. You can hear in her voice that she is enjoying causing someone else pain.

You are a liar like the white woman in the film. You think if you keep repeating the same lie, people will begin to believe it.

The black woman was NOT provoking the white woman. The white woman would not leave the black woman alone.

[Anonymous]

Nobody who's having a true mental breakdown says "please don't record my mental breakdown."

I know many people on the autism spectrum, including in my own family. They are all more polite, kind, and "rule-following" than the rest of us. This woman may be on the spectrum, but her assault is because of a likely spoiled and entitled upbringing, that she never grew up and out of. It's because of HER own behabior, not her "disability."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.

I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.

Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.

No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.

Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?

Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.

There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.

You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.

Are we seeing the same video? The woman filming is sadistically enjoying provoking that crazy person. You can hear in her voice that she is enjoying causing someone else pain.

You are a liar like the white woman in the film. You think if you keep repeating the same lie, people will begin to believe it.

The black woman was NOT provoking the white woman. The white woman would not leave the black woman alone.

The woman filming is the Karen in this incident

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.

I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.

Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.

No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.

Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?

Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.

There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.

You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.

Are we seeing the same video? The woman filming is sadistically enjoying provoking that crazy person. You can hear in her voice that she is enjoying causing someone else pain.

You are a liar like the white woman in the film. You think if you keep repeating the same lie, people will begin to believe it.

The black woman was NOT provoking the white woman. The white woman would not leave the black woman alone.

The woman filming is the Karen in this incident

Your Karen meter is broken and needs recalibration.