Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Firmly on the side of the filmer.

If she didn't record it, the filmer would probably have been arrested and accused of threatening the blonde woman. This is precisely the kind of situation where filming is warranted, to protect oneself.

And sorry, I don't care how mentally ill one is. If you cannot interact with others safely, then you don't belong in public. Your rights do not trump others rights to not be attacked, harassed, screamed at, followed, or wrongfully blamed.

Oh? Did she also need to post it on the Internet and then file a lawsuit *two years* later AFTER she became well-aware that the woman was disabled?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Says she has mental illness and her disability contributed to her behavior, which was filmed and went viral.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12559355/Victoria-Secret-Karen-abigail-elphick-meltdown-video.html

Interesting twist and a useful reminder that the impulse to film everything and, worse, distribute it in the hope of vigilante justice, is rife with legal risk.

It’s interesting that the article doesn’t mention that the apartment complex where Abigail Elphick lives is for individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Her disability was probably obvious to the bystanders.

Ya think? She's a grown woman sobbing and squealing on the floor of a underwear store.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What prompted the white woman to approach the black woman and try to slap her camera to get her to stop filming?

The black woman was clearly trying to escalate the situation in an attempt to create a viral Karen situation and a payday.

Apparently it worked! $100k+ via go fund me…for what exactly?

She bullied a mentally ill woman.

I hope the white lady gets relief from the court. Nobody is safe if any person can whip out a camera phone and provoke a response with the goal of going viral and getting a payday. Enough already!

+1

[Anonymous]

I'm fine with filming as a means to protect yourself. I remember this video when it came out and it was obvious that the woman being filmed had mental health issues. The video never should have been posted to get attention and this is definitely one of those times where the person filming made it worse. I've seen the same thing on other videos posted.

I've actually been attacked by someone mentally unstable (broken nose and orbital bone) and I feel like this situation could have been handled so much better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with filming as a means to protect yourself. I remember this video when it came out and it was obvious that the woman being filmed had mental health issues. The video never should have been posted to get attention and this is definitely one of those times where the person filming made it worse. I've seen the same thing on other videos posted.

I've actually been attacked by someone mentally unstable (broken nose and orbital bone) and I feel like this situation could have been handled so much better.

+1 Ukenta was clearly exploiting this woman's mental illness to make money. It's really despicable the way she provoked a mental breakdown then filmed it and tried to "narrate" her way into an imaginary event. How stupid are people to see this video and give money to Ukenta? Elphick is clearly the victim here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with filming as a means to protect yourself. I remember this video when it came out and it was obvious that the woman being filmed had mental health issues. The video never should have been posted to get attention and this is definitely one of those times where the person filming made it worse. I've seen the same thing on other videos posted.

I've actually been attacked by someone mentally unstable (broken nose and orbital bone) and I feel like this situation could have been handled so much better.

Are you saying you asked for it?

[Anonymous]

My takeway is not that person A was right, or person B was right, but that a short video, or even a well-reported article, doesn't tell the whole story, so I don't know who's right or wrong.

[Anonymous]

Is this what society has always been like? Getting clout for being a victim? Or taking a video of every terrible situation and recording someone's worst moment - a fight, a car crash, etc. I cringe every single time I see one of these. I hope I am never on either side of the camera on one of those videos.

[Anonymous]

The woman has both an intellectual disability and mental health challenges. She is now being sued by the filmer of the video (who also got a $100K pay day via GFM)... Like what?

OK, she had an OTT inappropriate reaction -- which, based on how bystanders responded -- was almost certainly understood by everyone to be directly related to her disability & mental health challenge. OK, maybe the filmer felt the need to film to protect herself. But then what? She stops filming and leaves the store... only to come back and keep filming. Still protecting herself? Then she posts it in a series of posts on social media. Still protecting herself? Then, by the way, she does this in a bunch of other cases that don't go as viral too. Then, eventually, she sues this woman TWO YEARS LATER. Still protecting herself? It's horrendous behavior and she is 100% in the wrong.

[Anonymous]

I mean my guess is that she included the mentally disabled woman in the lawsuit as the hook, but she’s obviously going after VS and the mall, since they are the ones with money.

I imagine her lawyers are hoping for a settlement, because I don’t think a jury will find favor with Ukenta if it goes to trial.

I wonder what damages she is seeking. Pain and suffering? Free VS panties for life?

[Anonymous]

Black women are getting a bad rap lately because of these shake downs. It’s very sad to think that an opportunist like this agitator hurts all black women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I saw the video taken before this where the white woman chased her around the store shouting “you’re assaulting me!” It was actually nuts. I am on the black woman’s side.

I posted this, wanted to add I watched it when it first happened 2 years ago. It seems the other video has been wiped from the internet. But sales associates had to literally step in so blondie wouldn’t attack her after she chased the woman filming her. This article is very very one sided.

No, it was not wiped from the Internet. It is on Youtube.

DP. I still don't see anything showing her attacking this woman. Where is the start of all of this?

[Anonymous]

OP, your title is very racist against white women. Its offensive!

[Anonymous]

As the mother of kids with disabilities, the woman's behavior may be explained by her disability, it does not excuse it.

[Anonymous]

Like so many others, I saw all the videos associate with this incident and think the black woman was in the wrong. Sure, you can video to protect yourself if there’s a lack of clarity in what occurred. But to post the video online, act like a victim and raise money? That’s so dumb when you can see this white woman is disabled, mentally unwell, and frankly wasn’t even the aggressor in this situation. Trying to slap the phone out of the black woman's hand was not ideal but was also not assault. I’ve seen many of these “Karen” videos in the past where the “Karen” was at fault, but this one I cannot agree with.