professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

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South Florida and Texas are like another country. English is a second language and both are culturally Latino. Now the state is dictating what can be taught and what can not with threaten of jail time. Any normal person would find another job. But who really cares? Florida universities and colleges are just party schools. The young professionals leave these states as soon as they can.


Disney would have been better off if they had hired a UFla law grad instead of the out of state lawyers that knew nothing about the independent districts.
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Anonymous wrote:I know many younger professionals who live in Southern Florida and hate it.

young people move to FL and TX because it's cheap, not because of politics. I think some conservatives who tout how so many are moving to TX/FL don't understand the reason why people are moving there.. it's not because of their politics, but in spite of their politics.

These young people are just starting out, and if they are making $100K, they are being taxed a lot, so they escape to tax havens like TX and FL. Yes, I know TX has high property taxes, but young people aren't buying expensive homes.


Tax haven is because of the politics. Lower cost of living is because of the politics. These younger professionals, if they come in and vote for Democrats, will then turn those places into very expensive places to live with high taxes.

I think you do not understand how this works. It's purely the law of supply and demand.

The lower cost of living is that way because there is no demand. Historically, even with low taxes, the educated did not flock to TX or FL. They went to places like CA, IL, NY, which then became a victim of their own success with high cost of living. People who cannot afford the hcol move out to a lcol area, and if they move out in droves, then the housing cost and general col goes up there, too. That happened in cities in ID, OR and NV.

Austin is seeing this, too. Their property values and property taxes are sky high. It has driven out long time residents out of the area.

Other cities in TX will experience the same thing that CA, IL, NY experienced.

However, FL with its anti-education policies may end up driving the educated away.
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Professors?

Lol

AI is better, infinitely cheaper and less damaging


+1

how do you think educated people who developed AI became educated?
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Anonymous wrote:Oh no, what will Florida ever do without ecology and social justice professors!


You understand that having miles of beaches unusable because of ecology issues becomes and economic development and revenue problem, right?


The brain drain from places like Florida and Texas will be slow enough that it won't really be noticed until it's critical - that's my 2 cents anyway.

If the GOP continues to dominated in red states I think the quality of life (and cost of living) will improve in blue states and decline in red states but you won't see any real effects for 15-20 years. I think one more electrical grid failure may start to turn the tide in Texas, but I'm not exactly holding my breath. There seems to be a massive amount of ignorance and apathy among the citizenry that governmental actions are carried out through the officials they elect.


The quality of life will improve if they get their homelessness and policing under fixed. Beyond that, their increase of prices serves to push lower income people out of town. Look at all these cities in California which have had declining black populations for decades.
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Professors?

Lol

AI is better, infinitely cheaper and less damaging


+1

how do you think educated people who developed AI became educated?


They don't care. They're stupid so they think everyone is stupid, and it's making everyone stupid.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh no, what will Florida ever do without ecology and social justice professors!


You understand that having miles of beaches unusable because of ecology issues becomes and economic development and revenue problem, right?


The brain drain from places like Florida and Texas will be slow enough that it won't really be noticed until it's critical - that's my 2 cents anyway.

If the GOP continues to dominated in red states I think the quality of life (and cost of living) will improve in blue states and decline in red states but you won't see any real effects for 15-20 years. I think one more electrical grid failure may start to turn the tide in Texas, but I'm not exactly holding my breath. There seems to be a massive amount of ignorance and apathy among the citizenry that governmental actions are carried out through the officials they elect.


Except the critical mass of wind and solar farms in texas has bailed out their grid during the hot snap.

https://news.yahoo.com/solar-wind-energy-saving-texans-134929760.html

You won't see the GOP recognizing this publicly.


The wind and solar is what crashes the grid to begin with.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal and I say "good". When the old folks in Fla can't find a nurse who can read their chart or properly administer meds because they are ignoramuses, maybe they will say to them selves "hmm, perhaps we should not have driven the educated out of the state".

Actions, consequences.

Also, let them make enemies of Disney and hopefully decimate their economy. Reap, sow.


Disney's is booming in Florida. Unless they are wiling to move the property, they are going to have to keep investing in it. Do you really think Iger is going to decide that DeSantis is mean and write off Disney World and move to a more welcoming state?


I think nowadays anything can happen, and usually does.


Company is committing suicide. Stock murdered over the last 2 years.


COVID and an economic downturn will do that. Now that the economy is strong and at least for the vaccinated, COVID isn't an issue, Disney, at least the parks part of the business, should return. The films and media side, maybe not so much.

Their stock hit an all-time high in early 2021 so it's not covid. The streaming unit is what's dragging down their stock. Despite bleeding cash like crazy, Disney+ is still losing subscribers. It's a mediocre offering.

I doubt politics has much to do with it. Conservatives can easily drop Bud for Coors but there's no substitute for Disney.


Universal is becoming more popular than Disney World, for various reasons. Illumination has been putting out hits while Disney's films have been losing money or breaking open. They haven't gotten a billion dollars in a while. Little Mermaid, Elementals, Ant-Man 3, Guardians 3, Eternals, and now Indiana Jones 5, are all either disappointments or flops.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal and I say "good". When the old folks in Fla can't find a nurse who can read their chart or properly administer meds because they are ignoramuses, maybe they will say to them selves "hmm, perhaps we should not have driven the educated out of the state".

Actions, consequences.

Also, let them make enemies of Disney and hopefully decimate their economy. Reap, sow.


Disney's is booming in Florida. Unless they are wiling to move the property, they are going to have to keep investing in it. Do you really think Iger is going to decide that DeSantis is mean and write off Disney World and move to a more welcoming state?


I think nowadays anything can happen, and usually does.


When has a successful theme park that would cost tens of billions to replicate ever just upped stakes and moved to another state? [/quote

What they could do is instead of opening a new section at Disney World, they can open up attractions in another state. It would be better if they could reduce the demand in Orlando, but Disney is doing it by making it a trip for rich people, even charging for fast passes.
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Anonymous wrote:LOL!! Where’s the evidence of people actually leaving Florida? Look to U-Hall and moving companies for that, and please share, OP.

Google searches are just that: Looking

In any case, people keep coming, so there’s hardly a shortage of Florida residents. Construction is booming.


And yet

https://www.wsj.com/articles/migrant-workers-flee-florida-as-new-immigration-law-takes-effect-94796abf


Ohs nos! Punishing people for committing crimes! Whatever shall we do?????
The law, signed in May by Florida Gov. and GOP presidential candidate Ron DeSantis, seeks to further criminalize undocumented immigration in the state. It makes it a third-degree felony for unauthorized people to knowingly use a false identification to obtain employment. Businesses that knowingly employ unauthorized workers could have their licenses suspended, and those with 25 or more employees that repeatedly fail to use the E-Verify system to check their immigration status can face daily fines.


Why is it a felony for the employee and a fine for the employer?
It is hard to put a company in jail.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal and I say "good". When the old folks in Fla can't find a nurse who can read their chart or properly administer meds because they are ignoramuses, maybe they will say to them selves "hmm, perhaps we should not have driven the educated out of the state".

Actions, consequences.

Also, let them make enemies of Disney and hopefully decimate their economy. Reap, sow.


Disney's is booming in Florida. Unless they are wiling to move the property, they are going to have to keep investing in it. Do you really think Iger is going to decide that DeSantis is mean and write off Disney World and move to a more welcoming state?


I think nowadays anything can happen, and usually does.


Company is committing suicide. Stock murdered over the last 2 years.


Sure because they may have to shut down operations in Florida? Lol Disney Florida operations are 5% of the companies revenue and the parks have seen large increase year over year from 2020. Disney yearly revenues are almost 140% larger vs the state of Florida’s yearly budget and 34% of the state budget is federal money. If you back that out Disney revenues are 2x the size of Florida state budget.

How DeSantis doing in the polls after Iger went after him? DeSantis and his minions will be out of jobs next cycle because Disney will flex its muscle.


You support corporations' controlling government.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal and I say "good". When the old folks in Fla can't find a nurse who can read their chart or properly administer meds because they are ignoramuses, maybe they will say to them selves "hmm, perhaps we should not have driven the educated out of the state".

Actions, consequences.

Also, let them make enemies of Disney and hopefully decimate their economy. Reap, sow.


Disney's is booming in Florida. Unless they are wiling to move the property, they are going to have to keep investing in it. Do you really think Iger is going to decide that DeSantis is mean and write off Disney World and move to a more welcoming state?


I think nowadays anything can happen, and usually does.


Company is committing suicide. Stock murdered over the last 2 years.


COVID and an economic downturn will do that. Now that the economy is strong and at least for the vaccinated, COVID isn't an issue, Disney, at least the parks part of the business, should return. The films and media side, maybe not so much.

Their stock hit an all-time high in early 2021 so it's not covid. The streaming unit is what's dragging down their stock. Despite bleeding cash like crazy, Disney+ is still losing subscribers. It's a mediocre offering.

I doubt politics has much to do with it. Conservatives can easily drop Bud for Coors but there's no substitute for Disney.


Universal is becoming more popular than Disney World, for various reasons. Illumination has been putting out hits while Disney's films have been losing money or breaking open. They haven't gotten a billion dollars in a while. Little Mermaid, Elementals, Ant-Man 3, Guardians 3, Eternals, and now Indiana Jones 5, are all either disappointments or flops.


Disney Parks revenues $29 billion Universal park revenues $7 billion.

Also
Did you know that Universal Studios hosts a Pride night? And that alone likely makes it the queerest theme park in America because unlike meetups or unofficial Gay Days, no other U.S. theme park offers a themed event for Pride on park property


Oh no!
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal and I say "good". When the old folks in Fla can't find a nurse who can read their chart or properly administer meds because they are ignoramuses, maybe they will say to them selves "hmm, perhaps we should not have driven the educated out of the state".

Actions, consequences.

Also, let them make enemies of Disney and hopefully decimate their economy. Reap, sow.


Disney's is booming in Florida. Unless they are wiling to move the property, they are going to have to keep investing in it. Do you really think Iger is going to decide that DeSantis is mean and write off Disney World and move to a more welcoming state?


I think nowadays anything can happen, and usually does.


Company is committing suicide. Stock murdered over the last 2 years.


Sure because they may have to shut down operations in Florida? Lol Disney Florida operations are 5% of the companies revenue and the parks have seen large increase year over year from 2020. Disney yearly revenues are almost 140% larger vs the state of Florida’s yearly budget and 34% of the state budget is federal money. If you back that out Disney revenues are 2x the size of Florida state budget.

How DeSantis doing in the polls after Iger went after him? DeSantis and his minions will be out of jobs next cycle because Disney will flex its muscle.


You support corporations' controlling government.


Unlike you I do not support government forcing corporations punishing gays, blacks, Jews, etc employees and customers. I also do not support tax increases to support private businesses.
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Anonymous wrote:Florida ranks #1 as the state most Americans want to relocate from, according to a new study by moving company SelfStorage.com that analyzed Google search data across the 50 states.
https://www.timeout.com/miami/news/this-just-in-floridians-really-want-to-gtfo-according-to-this-new-study-062723


Funny, according to USPS, it's not a top state that people want to leave. In fact, it's the #2 most moved to state. https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/features/states-move-to-from/



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It is not cheap to live here or to find affordable housing. Maybe a double wide trailer in davie or a hoarder house listed for $550,000

I moved here (s. Fla) from dc and I’m shocked at the prices
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