professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no, what will Florida ever do without ecology and social justice professors!

You understand that having miles of beaches unusable because of ecology issues becomes and economic development and revenue problem, right?

The brain drain from places like Florida and Texas will be slow enough that it won't really be noticed until it's critical - that's my 2 cents anyway.

If the GOP continues to dominated in red states I think the quality of life (and cost of living) will improve in blue states and decline in red states but you won't see any real effects for 15-20 years. I think one more electrical grid failure may start to turn the tide in Texas, but I'm not exactly holding my breath. There seems to be a massive amount of ignorance and apathy among the citizenry that governmental actions are carried out through the officials they elect.

So they will sink like Mississippi until they turn themselves around. Oh well.

PP here. That's pretty much my attitude. I am from TX and always thought I would end up back in TX at some point/for retirement. I have no intention of doing that now. The electrical grid, water, the unliveable weather. The politics are the cherry on top.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal and I say "good". When the old folks in Fla can't find a nurse who can read their chart or properly administer meds because they are ignoramuses, maybe they will say to them selves "hmm, perhaps we should not have driven the educated out of the state".

Actions, consequences.

Also, let them make enemies of Disney and hopefully decimate their economy. Reap, sow.

Disney's is booming in Florida. Unless they are wiling to move the property, they are going to have to keep investing in it. Do you really think Iger is going to decide that DeSantis is mean and write off Disney World and move to a more welcoming state?

I think nowadays anything can happen, and usually does.

Company is committing suicide. Stock murdered over the last 2 years.

COVID and an economic downturn will do that. Now that the economy is strong and at least for the vaccinated, COVID isn't an issue, Disney, at least the parks part of the business, should return. The films and media side, maybe not so much.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no, what will Florida ever do without ecology and social justice professors!

You understand that having miles of beaches unusable because of ecology issues becomes and economic development and revenue problem, right?

The brain drain from places like Florida and Texas will be slow enough that it won't really be noticed until it's critical - that's my 2 cents anyway.

If the GOP continues to dominated in red states I think the quality of life (and cost of living) will improve in blue states and decline in red states but you won't see any real effects for 15-20 years. I think one more electrical grid failure may start to turn the tide in Texas, but I'm not exactly holding my breath. There seems to be a massive amount of ignorance and apathy among the citizenry that governmental actions are carried out through the officials they elect.

So they will sink like Mississippi until they turn themselves around. Oh well.

PP here. That's pretty much my attitude. I am from TX and always thought I would end up back in TX at some point/for retirement. I have no intention of doing that now. The electrical grid, water, the unliveable weather. The politics are the cherry on top.

Due to global cooling Texas has had huge problems and vulnerability to freezing temperatures.

https://theconversation.com/two-years-after-its-historic-deep-freeze-texas-is-increasingly-vulnerable-to-cold-snaps-and-there-are-more-solutions-than-just-building-power-plants-198494

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Anonymous wrote:I know many younger professionals who live in Southern Florida and hate it.

young people move to FL and TX because it's cheap, not because of politics. I think some conservatives who tout how so many are moving to TX/FL don't understand the reason why people are moving there.. it's not because of their politics, but in spite of their politics.

These young people are just starting out, and if they are making $100K, they are being taxed a lot, so they escape to tax havens like TX and FL. Yes, I know TX has high property taxes, but young people aren't buying expensive homes.

Tax haven is because of the politics. Lower cost of living is because of the politics. These younger professionals, if they come in and vote for Democrats, will then turn those places into very expensive places to live with high taxes.

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Anonymous wrote:Florida ranks #1 as the state most Americans want to relocate from, according to a new study by moving company SelfStorage.com that analyzed Google search data across the 50 states.
https://www.timeout.com/miami/news/this-just-in-floridians-really-want-to-gtfo-according-to-this-new-study-062723

Show us UHaul prices to and from to get an idea of what people actually do.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal and I say "good". When the old folks in Fla can't find a nurse who can read their chart or properly administer meds because they are ignoramuses, maybe they will say to them selves "hmm, perhaps we should not have driven the educated out of the state".

Actions, consequences.

Also, let them make enemies of Disney and hopefully decimate their economy. Reap, sow.

Actually they will have more. because liberal states fired all these nurses for being unvaccinated.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no, what will Florida ever do without ecology and social justice professors!

Tourism/beaches is huge for the FL economy, and the beaches/natural beauty are a big reason people move to FL. PhDs in ecology, biology, hydro and geology are important for FL. Most people know this.

Oh yes, I'm sure the ecology department at Florida Atlantic University is absolutely critical to maintaining the beaches. Whatever will Florida do without its academics?!

State/federal attempts to stifle critical thinking, devalue expertise, restrict acceptable content in curricula, and narrow the range of acceptable public discourse are hallmarks of fascism. But you would have known that if you were better educated.

Fascism’s History Offers Lessons about Today’s Attacks on Education
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fascisms-history-offers-lessons-about-todays-attacks-on-education/

It was liberals in universities that were going after faculty for saying things that was at odds with the government, with regards to COVID.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal and I say "good". When the old folks in Fla can't find a nurse who can read their chart or properly administer meds because they are ignoramuses, maybe they will say to them selves "hmm, perhaps we should not have driven the educated out of the state".

Actions, consequences.

Also, let them make enemies of Disney and hopefully decimate their economy. Reap, sow.

Disney's is booming in Florida. Unless they are wiling to move the property, they are going to have to keep investing in it. Do you really think Iger is going to decide that DeSantis is mean and write off Disney World and move to a more welcoming state?

I think nowadays anything can happen, and usually does.

Company is committing suicide. Stock murdered over the last 2 years.

COVID and an economic downturn will do that. Now that the economy is strong and at least for the vaccinated, COVID isn't an issue, Disney, at least the parks part of the business, should return. The films and media side, maybe not so much.

Their stock hit an all-time high in early 2021 so it's not covid. The streaming unit is what's dragging down their stock. Despite bleeding cash like crazy, Disney+ is still losing subscribers. It's a mediocre offering.

I doubt politics has much to do with it. Conservatives can easily drop Bud for Coors but there's no substitute for Disney.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL!! Where’s the evidence of people actually leaving Florida? Look to U-Hall and moving companies for that, and please share, OP.

Google searches are just that: Looking

In any case, people keep coming, so there’s hardly a shortage of Florida residents. Construction is booming.

And yet

https://www.wsj.com/articles/migrant-workers-flee-florida-as-new-immigration-law-takes-effect-94796abf

Ohs nos! Punishing people for committing crimes! Whatever shall we do?????

The law, signed in May by Florida Gov. and GOP presidential candidate Ron DeSantis, seeks to further criminalize undocumented immigration in the state. It makes it a third-degree felony for unauthorized people to knowingly use a false identification to obtain employment. Businesses that knowingly employ unauthorized workers could have their licenses suspended, and those with 25 or more employees that repeatedly fail to use the E-Verify system to check their immigration status can face daily fines.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal and I say "good". When the old folks in Fla can't find a nurse who can read their chart or properly administer meds because they are ignoramuses, maybe they will say to them selves "hmm, perhaps we should not have driven the educated out of the state".

Actions, consequences.

Also, let them make enemies of Disney and hopefully decimate their economy. Reap, sow.

Disney's is booming in Florida. Unless they are wiling to move the property, they are going to have to keep investing in it. Do you really think Iger is going to decide that DeSantis is mean and write off Disney World and move to a more welcoming state?

I think nowadays anything can happen, and usually does.

When has a successful theme park that would cost tens of billions to replicate ever just upped stakes and moved to another state?

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Anonymous wrote:LOL!! Where’s the evidence of people actually leaving Florida? Look to U-Hall and moving companies for that, and please share, OP.

Google searches are just that: Looking

In any case, people keep coming, so there’s hardly a shortage of Florida residents. Construction is booming.

And yet

https://www.wsj.com/articles/migrant-workers-flee-florida-as-new-immigration-law-takes-effect-94796abf

Ohs nos! Punishing people for committing crimes! Whatever shall we do?????

The law, signed in May by Florida Gov. and GOP presidential candidate Ron DeSantis, seeks to further criminalize undocumented immigration in the state. It makes it a third-degree felony for unauthorized people to knowingly use a false identification to obtain employment. Businesses that knowingly employ unauthorized workers could have their licenses suspended, and those with 25 or more employees that repeatedly fail to use the E-Verify system to check their immigration status can face daily fines.

Why is it a felony for the employee and a fine for the employer?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal and I say "good". When the old folks in Fla can't find a nurse who can read their chart or properly administer meds because they are ignoramuses, maybe they will say to them selves "hmm, perhaps we should not have driven the educated out of the state".

Actions, consequences.

Also, let them make enemies of Disney and hopefully decimate their economy. Reap, sow.

Disney's is booming in Florida. Unless they are wiling to move the property, they are going to have to keep investing in it. Do you really think Iger is going to decide that DeSantis is mean and write off Disney World and move to a more welcoming state?

I think nowadays anything can happen, and usually does.

Company is committing suicide. Stock murdered over the last 2 years.

COVID and an economic downturn will do that. Now that the economy is strong and at least for the vaccinated, COVID isn't an issue, Disney, at least the parks part of the business, should return. The films and media side, maybe not so much.

Their stock hit an all-time high in early 2021 so it's not covid. The streaming unit is what's dragging down their stock. Despite bleeding cash like crazy, Disney+ is still losing subscribers. It's a mediocre offering.

I doubt politics has much to do with it. Conservatives can easily drop Bud for Coors but there's no substitute for Disney.

It's not just streaming, between the little mermaid, elemental (why does an animated movie have a $200 million budget?), and India Jones, the movie side may lose a billion this summer

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Anonymous wrote:and i know that the idiots who support this are about to come to this thread to say good, who needs professors anyway

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/07/06/are-florida-laws-chasing-university-faculty-away-some-see-brain-drain/

These professors should apply to Stanford. Seems like a better fit.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal and I say "good". When the old folks in Fla can't find a nurse who can read their chart or properly administer meds because they are ignoramuses, maybe they will say to them selves "hmm, perhaps we should not have driven the educated out of the state".

Actions, consequences.

Also, let them make enemies of Disney and hopefully decimate their economy. Reap, sow.

Disney's is booming in Florida. Unless they are wiling to move the property, they are going to have to keep investing in it. Do you really think Iger is going to decide that DeSantis is mean and write off Disney World and move to a more welcoming state?

I think nowadays anything can happen, and usually does.

Company is committing suicide. Stock murdered over the last 2 years.

Sure because they may have to shut down operations in Florida? Lol Disney Florida operations are 5% of the companies revenue and the parks have seen large increase year over year from 2020. Disney yearly revenues are almost 140% larger vs the state of Florida’s yearly budget and 34% of the state budget is federal money. If you back that out Disney revenues are 2x the size of Florida state budget.

How DeSantis doing in the polls after Iger went after him? DeSantis and his minions will be out of jobs next cycle because Disney will flex its muscle.

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Professors?

Lol

AI is better, infinitely cheaper and less damaging

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