UChicago vs Wake Forest

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the major?

This is OP. Pre-Law, Economics, Poly-Sci, Government, International Affairs - along those lines.

Easily U. Chicago. Chicago is historically dominant in Economics, has one of the best law schools in the country (although I doubt Pre-law is a major), and is probably strong in the remaining social sciences as well.

I can imagine someone picking Wake Forest but on social life alone. It's Southern, Greek Life dominant, etc. etc. Meaning you have to not only be a wealthy WASP, but a wealthy Southern WASP. Wealthy WASP from DC suburbs does not count.

In addition to clueless, you sound racist. Sounds like you have some deep issues with Christian people.

How exactly?

WASP generally means Protestants, but in the case of the South, it specifically means Southern Baptist. Meaning being Catholic is obviously not okay, but even say Episcopalian Protestant is not sufficient.

So the Southern WASPs are the ones that have problems with Christians who they don't consider to be sufficiently Christian.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Do you even know what WASP stands for? Look it up for us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UChicago is the superior school, by a matter of magnitudes.

Because US News told you so? Wake is an stellar school, with far superior weather and 1000x safer surroundings than the Chicago warzone UofC is in.

Yes, but also because of the number of Nobel laureates in UChicago (at least 94) compared with 0 (?) in Wake Forest.

I hate hearing parents talkginna iut Nobel laureates. You know that in academics, they don’t give you the award until like at least ten years after your significant work. These laureates are old and non teaching. When they reached, they don’t teach intro classes.

And Chicago is better? Why the ranking said so?

Oh yeah, economics. Well, only the ftad program mattered.

So go to Wake Forest, have a good time and if you have beef left in you, go to graduate school. Otherwise, go enjoy cold, windy, crime centered, and super competitive and needy place called UChicago, because youth is wasted if you don’t spend every minute in studying.

Chicago has one of the strongest set of social science departments in the world. Economics for undergrads = Top 4. Political science for undergrads = Top 10. Psychology = Top 15.

And regardless of whether they're Nobel Laureates or not, the "big named" professors DO teach at Chicago.

Yes they teach, but they are often among the worst profs… (yes I went there)

Honestly, uchicago is brutal academically. Compared to my friends, only caltech and mit are in the same league. Probably the best PhD prep university in the US. I knew one kid who went to wake. Sounded like he had a lot more party time than I did. Though for wake’s price - I’d rather just go to a true SEC school. Clemson sounds more fun.

You were doing well until you tried to talk sports. Both Wake and Clemson are in the ACC not SEC

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the major?

This is OP. Pre-Law, Economics, Poly-Sci, Government, International Affairs - along those lines.

Easily U. Chicago. Chicago is historically dominant in Economics, has one of the best law schools in the country (although I doubt Pre-law is a major), and is probably strong in the remaining social sciences as well.

I can imagine someone picking Wake Forest but on social life alone. It's Southern, Greek Life dominant, etc. etc. Meaning you have to not only be a wealthy WASP, but a wealthy Southern WASP. Wealthy WASP from DC suburbs does not count.

In addition to clueless, you sound racist. Sounds like you have some deep issues with Christian people.

How exactly?

WASP generally means Protestants, but in the case of the South, it specifically means Southern Baptist. Meaning being Catholic is obviously not okay, but even say Episcopalian Protestant is not sufficient.

So the Southern WASPs are the ones that have problems with Christians who they don't consider to be sufficiently Christian.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Do you even know what WASP stands for? Look it up for us.

Please go ahead and teach us what WASP, one of the most common words in American demographic lexicon, stands for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the major?

This is OP. Pre-Law, Economics, Poly-Sci, Government, International Affairs - along those lines.

Easily U. Chicago. Chicago is historically dominant in Economics, has one of the best law schools in the country (although I doubt Pre-law is a major), and is probably strong in the remaining social sciences as well.

I can imagine someone picking Wake Forest but on social life alone. It's Southern, Greek Life dominant, etc. etc. Meaning you have to not only be a wealthy WASP, but a wealthy Southern WASP. Wealthy WASP from DC suburbs does not count.

Why don't you go mask off and say what you REALLY mean: You are a bigot who hates gentiles.

This has nothing to do with being a "gentile", it's a basic fact regarding social life in a wealthy Southern school.

The only benefit that Wake offers over Chicago is the social life, more particularly Greek Life. However to experience the fullest extent of social life that Wake offers, one must be a wealthy Southern WASP. Most preferably, the "P" meaning Southern Baptist.

This is the general reality, and to point it out is not bigoted against "gentiles". If anything it's the socially exclusionary practices that are bigoted against the vast majority of "gentiles" who don't fit into the particular demographic of wealthy - Southern - white - Anglo-Saxon (in claim) - Southern Baptist.

Maybe 30 years ago, but no longer. My brother went there 10 years ago from NE and had a great time, in a fraternity, etc. . . And we aren’t even Protestant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of the views posted here about Wake Forest are pretty outdated.
My child does not attend but spent some time on campus and thought it was great. Excellent business school, amazing campus, great sports but most of all DC thought the kids at Wake seemed genuinely happy.
Apparently they work hard too. Not a walk in the park.

+1
Also wake forest has a reputation for grade deflation

This was the rep 25-30 years ago, too. At least that’s what one of those top colleges books said when I was researching where to apply.

[Anonymous]

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It's not the case that nobody gives a damn about how undergrad programs rank. Employers often do. A UChicago grad with a major in economics will be looked upon differently from a WF grad with the same major, for instance. It would be patently false that most people have never even heard of UChicago. Even my friends and family outside the country have heard of it, and hold the university in high esteem.

The people that matter know about U. Chicago - employers at top firms and admissions at graduate, law, medical and business schools.

If a child wants to go into academia or be in the center of a big city, definitely should chose Chicago. An A student at Wake is going to have the same opportunities as an A student at Chicago otherwise. In fact, my relative who went to Wake went to a top 10 business school, my relative who went to Chicago did not even go to a t30 graduate program (biology).

[Anonymous]

Did either relative explain “anecdotal” to you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the major?

This is OP. Pre-Law, Economics, Poly-Sci, Government, International Affairs - along those lines.

Easily U. Chicago. Chicago is historically dominant in Economics, has one of the best law schools in the country (although I doubt Pre-law is a major), and is probably strong in the remaining social sciences as well.

I can imagine someone picking Wake Forest but on social life alone. It's Southern, Greek Life dominant, etc. etc. Meaning you have to not only be a wealthy WASP, but a wealthy Southern WASP. Wealthy WASP from DC suburbs does not count.

In addition to clueless, you sound racist. Sounds like you have some deep issues with Christian people.

How exactly?

WASP generally means Protestants, but in the case of the South, it specifically means Southern Baptist. Meaning being Catholic is obviously not okay, but even say Episcopalian Protestant is not sufficient.

So the Southern WASPs are the ones that have problems with Christians who they don't consider to be sufficiently Christian.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Do you even know what WASP stands for? Look it up for us.

Please go ahead and teach us what WASP, one of the most common words in American demographic lexicon, stands for.

White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. I thought everyone knew that.

[Anonymous]

Yankees be so gullible. They think this southern school is exclusive. Upper crust southerners do not send their kids to Wake. Or Duke for that matter. Those are schools for Yankees who like to think they’re classy now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, uchicago is brutal academically. Compared to my friends, only caltech and mit are in the same league. Probably the best PhD prep university in the US.

University of Chicago is #12 in terms of the percent of students who go on to get Ph.Ds, while Wake Forest isn't in the top 50 Ph.D. feeder schools.

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-phd-programs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UChicago is the superior school, by a matter of magnitudes.

Because US News told you so? Wake is an stellar school, with far superior weather and 1000x safer surroundings than the Chicago warzone UofC is in.

Yes, but also because of the number of Nobel laureates in UChicago (at least 94) compared with 0 (?) in Wake Forest.

I hate hearing parents talkginna iut Nobel laureates. You know that in academics, they don’t give you the award until like at least ten years after your significant work. These laureates are old and non teaching. When they reached, they don’t teach intro classes.

And Chicago is better? Why the ranking said so?

Oh yeah, economics. Well, only the ftad program mattered.

So go to Wake Forest, have a good time and if you have beef left in you, go to graduate school. Otherwise, go enjoy cold, windy, crime centered, and super competitive and needy place called UChicago, because youth is wasted if you don’t spend every minute in studying.

Chicago has one of the strongest set of social science departments in the world. Economics for undergrads = Top 4. Political science for undergrads = Top 10. Psychology = Top 15.

And regardless of whether they're Nobel Laureates or not, the "big named" professors DO teach at Chicago.

Yes they teach, but they are often among the worst profs… (yes I went there)

Honestly, uchicago is brutal academically. Compared to my friends, only caltech and mit are in the same league. Probably the best PhD prep university in the US. I knew one kid who went to wake. Sounded like he had a lot more party time than I did. Though for wake’s price - I’d rather just go to a true SEC school. Clemson sounds more fun.

You were doing well until you tried to talk sports. Both Wake and Clemson are in the ACC not SEC

Hahaha, that proves I went there, and that is what you should expect there.

[Anonymous]

U of Chicago is a top university with global recognition.
WF is a great school but not in the same caliber.
Salary after graduation is not an indication of quality of a university or the education you have received!
You can make lots of money and don’t even go to college!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, uchicago is brutal academically. Compared to my friends, only caltech and mit are in the same league. Probably the best PhD prep university in the US.

University of Chicago is #12 in terms of the percent of students who go on to get Ph.Ds, while Wake Forest isn't in the top 50 Ph.D. feeder schools.

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-phd-programs

And of just full universities on that list, #3 (as opposed to LAC). Basically Caltech, MIT, then Chicago with Yale/Princeton rounding out the top 5.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the major?

This is OP. Pre-Law, Economics, Poly-Sci, Government, International Affairs - along those lines.

Easily U. Chicago. Chicago is historically dominant in Economics, has one of the best law schools in the country (although I doubt Pre-law is a major), and is probably strong in the remaining social sciences as well.

I can imagine someone picking Wake Forest but on social life alone. It's Southern, Greek Life dominant, etc. etc. Meaning you have to not only be a wealthy WASP, but a wealthy Southern WASP. Wealthy WASP from DC suburbs does not count.

Why don't you go mask off and say what you REALLY mean: You are a bigot who hates gentiles.

This has nothing to do with being a "gentile", it's a basic fact regarding social life in a wealthy Southern school.

The only benefit that Wake offers over Chicago is the social life, more particularly Greek Life. However to experience the fullest extent of social life that Wake offers, one must be a wealthy Southern WASP. Most preferably, the "P" meaning Southern Baptist.

This is the general reality, and to point it out is not bigoted against "gentiles". If anything it's the socially exclusionary practices that are bigoted against the vast majority of "gentiles" who don't fit into the particular demographic of wealthy - Southern - white - Anglo-Saxon (in claim) - Southern Baptist.

Y’all. Please. The Southern Baptists are not the upper class Southerners. The rich Southerners look down at the Southern Baptists. The Southern class system is very English-/Indian-style. Intricate and brutal.

True. The rich ones are Presbyterian fundamentalists who think god blessed them with wealth because they’re superior/chosen people. And they will be nice to you but they will never include you in their circle.

A lot of the takes here are spot on even for today.

[Anonymous]

Did you see the Wake Med student injuring a patient for asking about her pronouns name tag? I think they're plenty woke down south y'all if that's what you're into.