Girl Raped at Rockville HS

[Anonymous]

The 18 and 19 year olds that are already in the system are probably not in 9th grade. They also speak English and stand a chance of learning something. They probably come from a better environment and are here legally.

To take it a step further, if these 2 were here legally, I would still question the decision to throw 2 men who come from a bad environment and don't speak the language into a regular classroom. Does anyone seriously think they could learn like this? They didn't grow up here, they don't understand our cultures and norms and have little motive to assimilate.

Yes, 18 and 19-yr-old males and females are in the DMV public school systems and because they are unschooled and illiterate in their own language as well as English, they are placed in 9th grade. They arrive w/o birth certificates and because they claim to be 16 or 17, they receive a free education and immunizations, free breakfast and lunch, all activities, supplies and fees are gratis. I'm willing to bet the farm, every PHS principal (Rockville excluded) in the DMV lit a candle at church last weekend in thanks that this didn't happen at their school.

[Anonymous]

There have been multiple incidents at MCPS from assault, to sexual assault to drug busts. Sad how everyone is focusing on this one incident when this is a far bigger issue with safety and security for our schools and children.

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We are focused on all the wrong things here. The issue is that he was a rapist. Not that he was an immigrant. Or Latino. Or in 9th grade. He and his friend are rapists.

Now, we can have a discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape, but that's a totally separate discussion from "why is there an 18 year-old in a high school?"

I agree. This really can't be said too often.

Let's have the discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape.

While that sounds perfectly logical, it ignores the reality that stranger rape is extremely rare. They didn't target a random girl; in the police report the victim describes the rapist she knew as a friend she knew from class. So, it is germane and we will continue to discuss it as it is one of the proximate causes of her being targeted.

How does "how can schools protect kids from rape?" ignore the reality that stranger rape is extremely rare?

I have no problem with "how can we protect kids from rape," my problem is that you're limiting the discussion in a way that ignores the reality that she was not randomly targeted. She made the acquaintance of this rapist as a direct result of county policies to places all non-English speaking immigrants in the 9th grade. So we won't stop discussing the idiocy and danger of this policy.

You are trying to limit the discussion. The real discussion is why are teenage boys raping girls they know.... English speaking American citizens are raping girls .... so we need to discuss this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There have been multiple incidents at MCPS from assault, to sexual assault to drug busts. Sad how everyone is focusing on this one incident when this is a far bigger issue with safety and security for our schools and children.

Bravo! Thanks you!

Nobody cares about the girl or any other girl that was raped last week or will be raped next week, they just want to complain about immigration.

Sad! Pathetic!

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We are focused on all the wrong things here. The issue is that he was a rapist. Not that he was an immigrant. Or Latino. Or in 9th grade. He and his friend are rapists.

Now, we can have a discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape, but that's a totally separate discussion from "why is there an 18 year-old in a high school?"

I agree. This really can't be said too often.

Let's have the discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape.

While that sounds perfectly logical, it ignores the reality that stranger rape is extremely rare. They didn't target a random girl; in the police report the victim describes the rapist she knew as a friend she knew from class. So, it is germane and we will continue to discuss it as it is one of the proximate causes of her being targeted.

How does "how can schools protect kids from rape?" ignore the reality that stranger rape is extremely rare?

I have no problem with "how can we protect kids from rape," my problem is that you're limiting the discussion in a way that ignores the reality that she was not randomly targeted. She made the acquaintance of this rapist as a direct result of county policies to places all non-English speaking immigrants in the 9th grade. So we won't stop discussing the idiocy and danger of this policy.

You are trying to limit the discussion. The real discussion is why are teenage boys raping girls they know.... English speaking American citizens are raping girls .... so we need to discuss this.

No, that is a separate discussion, because any educational system we put in place to help prevent rape across the board is not going to have an impact on an immigrant who comes here at age 17+. It will be too late for them to get that foundation. So, we need to stop giving them exposure without them having gone through the appropriate background checks, just like we would require of any other male of that age that is going to be around young girls.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There have been multiple incidents at MCPS from assault, to sexual assault to drug busts. Sad how everyone is focusing on this one incident when this is a far bigger issue with safety and security for our schools and children.

Bravo! Thanks you!

Nobody cares about the girl or any other girl that was raped last week or will be raped next week, they just want to complain about immigration.

Sad! Pathetic!

As a parent with elementary aged children I claim ignorance here. How many assaults have there been in mcps schools this year? In the last 5 years? I find this reprehensible and would really like to know what the schools are doing to keep our kids safe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There have been multiple incidents at MCPS from assault, to sexual assault to drug busts. Sad how everyone is focusing on this one incident when this is a far bigger issue with safety and security for our schools and children.

Bravo! Thanks you!

Nobody cares about the girl or any other girl that was raped last week or will be raped next week, they just want to complain about immigration.

Sad! Pathetic!

Agree. The immigration hysteria is insane. Focus on stopping rape, period, and on school safety overall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:(continued from above)

We are focused on all the wrong things here. The issue is that he was a rapist. Not that he was an immigrant. Or Latino. Or in 9th grade. He and his friend are rapists.

Now, we can have a discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape, but that's a totally separate discussion from "why is there an 18 year-old in a high school?"

I agree. This really can't be said too often.

Let's have the discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape.

While that sounds perfectly logical, it ignores the reality that stranger rape is extremely rare. They didn't target a random girl; in the police report the victim describes the rapist she knew as a friend she knew from class. So, it is germane and we will continue to discuss it as it is one of the proximate causes of her being targeted.

So they had the same class? How does that change a damn thing, Einstein?

How about why is the Montgomery County School Board inviting in this young men of illegal status?

FACT:
If our laws were obeyed, this vicious crime would NOT have happened to this 14 year old girl. Period.

It changes a damn thing because it means that MCPS might be civilly liable for this rape, since she was targeted in part because she was known to the rapists bc the school placed them in her classroom despite their illegal status.

Of course MCPS is liable. Big time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There have been multiple incidents at MCPS from assault, to sexual assault to drug busts. Sad how everyone is focusing on this one incident when this is a far bigger issue with safety and security for our schools and children.

Bravo! Thanks you!

Nobody cares about the girl or any other girl that was raped last week or will be raped next week, they just want to complain about immigration.

Sad! Pathetic!

Agree. The ILLEGAL immigration hysteria is insane. Focus on stopping rape, period, and on school safety overall.

Are you for real? I can agree that we need to focus on safety but I fixed your sentence for you.

There is no hysteria about legal immigration. But parents are rightfully upset about ILLEGAL immigration.

What programs do you think the county should implement for kids like the attackers? What rape prevention program would have stopped them?

They were in the country for 9 months. In that time, do you think the school's rape awareness program would have changed what happened? No freakin way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(continued from above)

We are focused on all the wrong things here. The issue is that he was a rapist. Not that he was an immigrant. Or Latino. Or in 9th grade. He and his friend are rapists.

Now, we can have a discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape, but that's a totally separate discussion from "why is there an 18 year-old in a high school?"

I agree. This really can't be said too often.

Let's have the discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape.

While that sounds perfectly logical, it ignores the reality that stranger rape is extremely rare. They didn't target a random girl; in the police report the victim describes the rapist she knew as a friend she knew from class. So, it is germane and we will continue to discuss it as it is one of the proximate causes of her being targeted.

So they had the same class? How does that change a damn thing, Einstein?

How about why is the Montgomery County School Board inviting in this young men of illegal status?

FACT:
If our laws were obeyed, this vicious crime would NOT have happened to this 14 year old girl. Period.

It changes a damn thing because it means that MCPS might be civilly liable for this rape, since she was targeted in part because she was known to the rapists bc the school placed them in her classroom despite their illegal status.

Of course MCPS is liable. Big time.

That's why there has been silence from MCPS. Not even a word.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There have been multiple incidents at MCPS from assault, to sexual assault to drug busts. Sad how everyone is focusing on this one incident when this is a far bigger issue with safety and security for our schools and children.

Bravo! Thanks you!

Nobody cares about the girl or any other girl that was raped last week or will be raped next week, they just want to complain about immigration.

Sad! Pathetic!

Agree. The immigration hysteria is insane. Focus on stopping rape, period, and on school safety overall.

Please post one other sexual assault or rape by an 18yr old student inside a MCPS school? The only other one I know is another 17yr old illegal alien who had sex with a freshman at RM 2 years ago in the hallway. That was consensual. And you know what happened? He stayed after a quick suspension and she moved schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There have been multiple incidents at MCPS from assault, to sexual assault to drug busts. Sad how everyone is focusing on this one incident when this is a far bigger issue with safety and security for our schools and children.

Bravo! Thanks you!

Nobody cares about the girl or any other girl that was raped last week or will be raped next week, they just want to complain about immigration.

Sad! Pathetic!

Everyone cares about the girl. A rape on school grounds? THAT is pathetic. Most crimes by illegal immigrants get swept away quickly. This one better not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PTA Meeting at Rockville HS on Tuesday at 7pm in the auditorium. Rep from MCPD will be there.

Will also start another thread.

MoCo is trying to sweep this crime under the rug.

However, they are partly to blame since they chose to place an 18 year-old in the victims freshman class. How many others have they placed this way?

This is from 7/2014, BEFORE it was as bad as it now,

From the Gazette:
Nearly 50 unaccompanied minors from Central America have been sent to Montgomery County Public Schools since July to attend classes this school year, Superintendent Joshua P. Starr said Thursday.

The 47 children from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras were directed to the county school system through the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement, Starr said at the county school board’s Thursday meeting.

“We don’t know if the number’s going to go up,” he said.

Last school year, the refugee resettlement office sent 107 unaccompanied children to the school system. Most of the minors were high school students, Starr said.

Starr said system officials are aware that minors from Central America are also entering county schools through avenues other than the refugee resettlement office, such as through their families. He said school officials discussed the issue during the summer.

The issue goes beyond the school system for the county. Montgomery County Council members met with representatives from public agencies and nonprofits in late July to learn about the situation in Montgomery regarding the immigrant children in its communities.

The system is determining the students’ educational and social-emotional needs and working to address the situation with others, such as the county and nonprofits, he said.

All citizens of Montgomery County are not as eager as Leggett and Starr to welcome the mostly Central American teens:

School board Vice President Patricia O’Neill said at the meeting that, in her experiences talking with county residents, “a lot of people have been very concerned” about the unaccompanied children in county schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There have been multiple incidents at MCPS from assault, to sexual assault to drug busts. Sad how everyone is focusing on this one incident when this is a far bigger issue with safety and security for our schools and children.

Bravo! Thanks you!

Nobody cares about the girl or any other girl that was raped last week or will be raped next week, they just want to complain about immigration.

Sad! Pathetic!

Most crimes by white boys get swept away quickly. Hysteria about this rape is overblown

Fixed that for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd like to know what percentage of MCPS students are actually undocumented...though I know it is impossible to know. I have a feeling the number is much smaller than people on this thread would expect. Whole new schools?? There are plenty of horrible incidents at schools involving citizens..

Doesn't answer your question but between 2014 and 2015 only, it looks like MOCO took in 534 undocumented children:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-central-america-unaccompanied-minors-20151126-story.html

Are all 534 are real "children"? I won't call the two 17, 18 yo rapist "children".

Also those 534 are only the ones we know about thru the refugee office. We have no clue how many else are from families or other known relatives. I would say easy 5 figures are undocumented or at least anchor babies that will hopefully go back once their parents get deported.