Girl Raped at Rockville HS

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Anonymous wrote:If you are concerned about what happened in Rockville High School and want to protect your children, Please sign the petition:
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Anonymous wrote:The problem with everyone flipping out about the age of the rapist is that we already have 18 year-olds in high school. We have native-born 19 year-olds in high school as well.

So, the issue here isn't really the age, is it? It's his background. He's 18, like a lot of other kids in high school, but foreign.

So, what to do about it? Ban Latinx 18 year-olds from high school? That's almost certainly not legal.

Of course it is not just about his age. It's the fact that he didn't speak any English and really did not belong at the school with access to young girls.

But yes, obviously there are other factors - security in schools being huge for me.

So, ban Latino (male) 18-year-olds who don't speak English? I don't have crime data, but as I recall from being a young girl in school, Latino(male) 18-year-olds who don't speak English were not the only threat to the safety of young girls. Or even (in my experience) the predominant threat.

The 18 and 19 year olds that are already in the system are probably not in 9th grade. They also speak English and stand a chance of learning something. They probably come from a better environment and are here legally. If they still rape, and they could, that is a separate issue to deal with.

In the case here, the 2 rapists are here illegally. They are illegal and should not be educated on our dime. They do not speak English so why are they in a regular classroom setting? They come from countries where violence is the norm so why throw them in a regular classroom setting? And finally, lest you think this is about race, how wold you feel if a white 19 year old is released from prison and sent to a regular classroom? I am sure you would be against that, too.

To take it a step further, if these 2 were here legally, I would still question the decision to throw 2 men who come from a bad environment and don't speak the language into a regular classroom. Does anyone seriously think they could learn like this? They didn't grow up here, they don't understand our cultures and norms and have little motive to assimilate.

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Yes, a big part is his age. It's not that he's 18 in HIgh School though. Many kids are. It's the fact that he's 18 in 9th grade! This MAN has a deportation status on him and was allowed to enroll as a 9th grader. If he even makes it through high school, he would be a 22 year old man. That is not normal.

No, he wouldn't, because 21 is the maximum age.

And yes, it's not normal, but so what? Do we only allow things that are normal (defined how?)?

As for him being a MAN, do you refer to all 18-year-olds as MEN (and WOMEN)? I don't.

Yes, he's an adult- a man. An adult that has a deportation order against him and MCPS allowed him to enroll as a 9th grader in a classroom with 14 year olds. Do you not see the issue with that?

How would MCPS know about a deportation order? MCPS does not do immigration enforcement, nor is it even allowed to. Other than the deportation order, no, I don't see an issue with an 18-year-old male person in a school with 14-year-old people.

He was in 9th grade. An 18 year old in a 9th grade class. How do you not see something wrong with that???

[Anonymous]

This is all just absurd. These 2 should not be here in the first place. Taxpayers were paying for their education and lunch and now we are paying for their public defenders and jail time. Anyone that doesn't see a problem here needs to have their head examined.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you are concerned about what happened in Rockville High School and want to protect your children, Please sign the petition:
https://m.facebook.com/246629959841/posts/10154616259989842

This.

I just signed. Thank you for sharing!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem with everyone flipping out about the age of the rapist is that we already have 18 year-olds in high school. We have native-born 19 year-olds in high school as well.

So, the issue here isn't really the age, is it? It's his background. He's 18, like a lot of other kids in high school, but foreign.

So, what to do about it? Ban Latinx 18 year-olds from high school? That's almost certainly not legal.

Ban them from being in ninth grade, for starters. Make him start as a junior or senior. Can't hack it? Then GTFO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with everyone flipping out about the age of the rapist is that we already have 18 year-olds in high school. We have native-born 19 year-olds in high school as well.

So, the issue here isn't really the age, is it? It's his background. He's 18, like a lot of other kids in high school, but foreign.

So, what to do about it? Ban Latinx 18 year-olds from high school? That's almost certainly not legal.

Ban them from being in ninth grade, for starters. Make him start as a junior or senior. Can't hack it? Then GTFO.

What difference does him being in 9th grade make the story? This happened in the hallway and bathroom, not in 9th Grade Homeroom. Yes, it is odd that he was a 18 year-old freshman but he is first and foremost a rapist. He would have been a rapist as a senior, too, and had equal access to this girl in the hallway.

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We are focused on all the wrong things here. The issue is that he was a rapist. Not that he was an immigrant. Or Latino. Or in 9th grade. He and his friend are rapists.

Now, we can have a discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape, but that's a totally separate discussion from "why is there an 18 year-old in a high school?"

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We are focused on all the wrong things here. The issue is that he was a rapist. Not that he was an immigrant. Or Latino. Or in 9th grade. He and his friend are rapists.

Now, we can have a discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape, but that's a totally separate discussion from "why is there an 18 year-old in a high school?"

I agree. This really can't be said too often.

Let's have the discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:(continued from above)

We are focused on all the wrong things here. The issue is that he was a rapist. Not that he was an immigrant. Or Latino. Or in 9th grade. He and his friend are rapists.

Now, we can have a discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape, but that's a totally separate discussion from "why is there an 18 year-old in a high school?"

I agree. This really can't be said too often.

Let's have the discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape.

While that sounds perfectly logical, it ignores the reality that stranger rape is extremely rare. They didn't target a random girl; in the police report the victim describes the rapist she knew as a friend she knew from class. So, it is germane and we will continue to discuss it as it is one of the proximate causes of her being targeted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:(continued from above)

We are focused on all the wrong things here. The issue is that he was a rapist. Not that he was an immigrant. Or Latino. Or in 9th grade. He and his friend are rapists.

Now, we can have a discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape, but that's a totally separate discussion from "why is there an 18 year-old in a high school?"

I agree. This really can't be said too often.

Let's have the discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape.

While that sounds perfectly logical, it ignores the reality that stranger rape is extremely rare. They didn't target a random girl; in the police report the victim describes the rapist she knew as a friend she knew from class. So, it is germane and we will continue to discuss it as it is one of the proximate causes of her being targeted.

How does "how can schools protect kids from rape?" ignore the reality that stranger rape is extremely rare?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:(continued from above)

We are focused on all the wrong things here. The issue is that he was a rapist. Not that he was an immigrant. Or Latino. Or in 9th grade. He and his friend are rapists.

Now, we can have a discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape, but that's a totally separate discussion from "why is there an 18 year-old in a high school?"

I agree. This really can't be said too often.

Let's have the discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape.

While that sounds perfectly logical, it ignores the reality that stranger rape is extremely rare. They didn't target a random girl; in the police report the victim describes the rapist she knew as a friend she knew from class. So, it is germane and we will continue to discuss it as it is one of the proximate causes of her being targeted.

So they had the same class? How does that change a damn thing, Einstein?

How about why is the Montgomery County School Board inviting in this young men of illegal status?

FACT:
If our laws were obeyed, this vicious crime would NOT have happened to this 14 year old girl. Period.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(continued from above)

We are focused on all the wrong things here. The issue is that he was a rapist. Not that he was an immigrant. Or Latino. Or in 9th grade. He and his friend are rapists.

Now, we can have a discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape, but that's a totally separate discussion from "why is there an 18 year-old in a high school?"

I agree. This really can't be said too often.

Let's have the discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape.

While that sounds perfectly logical, it ignores the reality that stranger rape is extremely rare. They didn't target a random girl; in the police report the victim describes the rapist she knew as a friend she knew from class. So, it is germane and we will continue to discuss it as it is one of the proximate causes of her being targeted.

How does "how can schools protect kids from rape?" ignore the reality that stranger rape is extremely rare?

I have no problem with "how can we protect kids from rape," my problem is that you're limiting the discussion in a way that ignores the reality that she was not randomly targeted. She made the acquaintance of this rapist as a direct result of county policies to places all non-English speaking immigrants in the 9th grade. So we won't stop discussing the idiocy and danger of this policy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(continued from above)

We are focused on all the wrong things here. The issue is that he was a rapist. Not that he was an immigrant. Or Latino. Or in 9th grade. He and his friend are rapists.

Now, we can have a discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape, but that's a totally separate discussion from "why is there an 18 year-old in a high school?"

I agree. This really can't be said too often.

Let's have the discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape.

While that sounds perfectly logical, it ignores the reality that stranger rape is extremely rare. They didn't target a random girl; in the police report the victim describes the rapist she knew as a friend she knew from class. So, it is germane and we will continue to discuss it as it is one of the proximate causes of her being targeted.

So they had the same class? How does that change a damn thing, Einstein?

How about why is the Montgomery County School Board inviting in this young men of illegal status?

FACT:
If our laws were obeyed, this vicious crime would NOT have happened to this 14 year old girl. Period.

It changes a damn thing because it means that MCPS might be civilly liable for this rape, since she was targeted in part because she was known to the rapists bc the school placed them in her classroom despite their illegal status.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(continued from above)

We are focused on all the wrong things here. The issue is that he was a rapist. Not that he was an immigrant. Or Latino. Or in 9th grade. He and his friend are rapists.

Now, we can have a discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape, but that's a totally separate discussion from "why is there an 18 year-old in a high school?"

I agree. This really can't be said too often.

Let's have the discussion about how schools can protect kids from rape.

While that sounds perfectly logical, it ignores the reality that stranger rape is extremely rare. They didn't target a random girl; in the police report the victim describes the rapist she knew as a friend she knew from class. So, it is germane and we will continue to discuss it as it is one of the proximate causes of her being targeted.

Yes. Most girls are raped by somebody they know. Most of them are about the same age or a year older, most of them are American citizens.

So we need to discuss why teenage boys rape people they know.