Help me understand Republican women in their 30s and 40s

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Anonymous wrote:It is actually costing the GOP election success. Why don't they just adjust their position to one that will retain and attract voters instead of driving them away. Particularly for an issue like this that the GOP is claiming is not a top issue.

The Republican nominee leads in the polls, and we control most state governorships. We also won the battle for the house, and the senate map is looking pretty good. Where exactly is the cost, particularly recognizing that most pro life voters are in the GOP?

The house is a mess with a tiny GOP majority. There was no red wave. The democrats flipped a house seat last year and this issue was definitely part of the campaign and the final decision.

The GOP was expected to take the house and did. As for the flipped seat, well yes, it was in New York which has gotten more blue and republicans left the state. New Yorkers aren’t indicative of a national election but the polls are - and they show Trump leading not only in battleground states but on the issues voters care most about.

Republicans won the House in 2022 only because reapportionment and gerrymandering eliminated some Democratic districts and created new Republican districts. The new maps were the difference.

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Anonymous wrote:All I am seeing here is that Republicans have emotional hatred and delusional paranoia toward transgender people, poor immigrants, and basic public health protocols. Targeting fears and prejudices to try to incite panic, as with every other election since 1964.

Republican women: you are stupid, hateful and illogical.

--winning Democrat message

From where a lot of Americans stand, it's not an incorrect observation to make.

That's fine. Just don't be surprised that people you hold in contempt don't vote for the same candidates.

Only stupid, hateful, and illogical people identify with the Republican Party. They are proud to be anti-intellectual, belligerent, and paranoid. How else could so many privileged and politically connected people delude themselves that they are victims?

If that's the case, why post on a thread where the OP is asking to understand women in their 30s-40s who vote Republican?

The question is why are women in their 30s & 40s so delusional that they are voting for their oppressors. The answer is that they are being played.

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Anonymous wrote:I am an atheist feminist who is married to a Democrat man. I am independent but leaning more and more conservative these days. Issues where I lean more to the conservative side include: crime, immigration, women’s sex-based rights, ideological capture of elite institutions, education, and free speech.

It is worth recognizing that historically women trend more conservative and more religious than men. I have my own theories about why this has changed over the past several decades.

As much as democrats might believe, abortion in and of itself, does not outweigh all of the issues you listed in the minds of many women. Women who are in their late-30s and 40s aren't focused on abortion as much as they are those issues. On crime, they want to keep their families and communities safe. On women's sex-based rights, if they have girls they want them to have fairness in sports. On ideological capture of elite institutions, they want a good education for their kids that will allow them to get jobs to afford the same lifestyles they grew up with. On education and free speech, they want to have differing viewpoints available, even if they don't agree with them.

I would vote for the two of you PPs. Well said.

Except that the current crop of conservative GOP politicians won't actually help you with any of these things. They won't. They just use things like trans women to stoke your emotions.

And BTW, all women, regardless of political party, want to keep their families and communities safe. Every one. They all want good education for their kids and for their kids to find good jobs. All of them. Do you believe otherwise?

Republican women have delusions of superiority. And yet so unaware of reality. The GOP has been dismantling the education system for decades. They don't give a fig about your kids. Wake up.

Well, a whole bunch of women voters learned in the pandemic that the Democrats don’t give a fig about their kids, either, so that threat doesn’t really work for Democrats any more.

Does yelling at women that they are delusional in an effort to persuade them often work for you? It seems ineffective to me, but you do you.

The shut down of schools was the most anti-woman event of my lifetime. It set back an unbelievable number of careers for working moms.

All the more reason that women should be pushing harder for things like remote work, for affordable childcare and so on, along with better educational infrastructure. The only remote work and affordable childcare Republicans care about is you barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen obediently making your husband a sandwich.

Also, many teachers are working moms, too - Republicans hate admitting and acknowledging that early on, schools were one of the top places associated with spread in covid contact tracing data (especially since young kids are snot factories and touch everything) and that many teachers found themselves on the front lines of covid getting sick, with a number of teachers dying in the early days of the pandemic.

The bolded is a straight up lie. It was known early on that children had lower viral loads, one of reason they don't really get that sick with Covid.

And stop will the BS about teachers being on the front lines. They were locked in their homes getting instacart and asynchronously phoning in their jobs. There were no higher rates of teachers dying any more than the average 25-45 year old, which was minimal and if it happened was generally due to already poor health. Just like every other profession.

You do not get to down play what we all witness.

We need you to acknowledge that school closures were a disaster because schools ARE AFFORDABLE CHILDCARE. They never should have been closed past June 2020. That is how you keep mothers in the workforce.

Hmm, some "straight-up lie" - there's a ton of data and research showing that children were very efficient spreaders of covid, even if they were asymptomatic.

https://research.princeton.edu/news/largest-covid-19-contact-tracing-study-date-finds-children-key-spread-evidence-superspreaders

https://hms.harvard.edu/news/children-spread-covid-19

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Along with doctors, nurses, food supply and public safety.

In person schools were critical to the functioning of society. More should have been done by our federal and state governments, public health officials, the teachers unions, and our communities to weigh the risks and prioritize school for kids.

There could have been creative solutions. We could have done some staffing shifting to ask elderly teachers or at risk teachers to move to older grades who could better learn remotely. We could have re-purposed classrooms that older kids didn't need because they are able to learn online to have more spacing for younger kids or special needs kids who developmentally can't learn remotely. We could have used some of the covid stimulus funds to provide bonus pay for teachers willing to work in-person.

There is a lot we could have done beside abandon kids and families.

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Anonymous wrote:I am an atheist feminist who is married to a Democrat man. I am independent but leaning more and more conservative these days. Issues where I lean more to the conservative side include: crime, immigration, women’s sex-based rights, ideological capture of elite institutions, education, and free speech.

It is worth recognizing that historically women trend more conservative and more religious than men. I have my own theories about why this has changed over the past several decades.

As much as democrats might believe, abortion in and of itself, does not outweigh all of the issues you listed in the minds of many women. Women who are in their late-30s and 40s aren't focused on abortion as much as they are those issues. On crime, they want to keep their families and communities safe. On women's sex-based rights, if they have girls they want them to have fairness in sports. On ideological capture of elite institutions, they want a good education for their kids that will allow them to get jobs to afford the same lifestyles they grew up with. On education and free speech, they want to have differing viewpoints available, even if they don't agree with them.

I would vote for the two of you PPs. Well said.

Except that the current crop of conservative GOP politicians won't actually help you with any of these things. They won't. They just use things like trans women to stoke your emotions.

And BTW, all women, regardless of political party, want to keep their families and communities safe. Every one. They all want good education for their kids and for their kids to find good jobs. All of them. Do you believe otherwise?

Republican women have delusions of superiority. And yet so unaware of reality. The GOP has been dismantling the education system for decades. They don't give a fig about your kids. Wake up.

Well, a whole bunch of women voters learned in the pandemic that the Democrats don’t give a fig about their kids, either, so that threat doesn’t really work for Democrats any more.

Does yelling at women that they are delusional in an effort to persuade them often work for you? It seems ineffective to me, but you do you.

The shut down of schools was the most anti-woman event of my lifetime. It set back an unbelievable number of careers for working moms.

All the more reason that women should be pushing harder for things like remote work, for affordable childcare and so on, along with better educational infrastructure. The only remote work and affordable childcare Republicans care about is you barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen obediently making your husband a sandwich.

Also, many teachers are working moms, too - Republicans hate admitting and acknowledging that early on, schools were one of the top places associated with spread in covid contact tracing data (especially since young kids are snot factories and touch everything) and that many teachers found themselves on the front lines of covid getting sick, with a number of teachers dying in the early days of the pandemic.

The bolded is a straight up lie. It was known early on that children had lower viral loads, one of reason they don't really get that sick with Covid.

And stop will the BS about teachers being on the front lines. They were locked in their homes getting instacart and asynchronously phoning in their jobs. There were no higher rates of teachers dying any more than the average 25-45 year old, which was minimal and if it happened was generally due to already poor health. Just like every other profession.

You do not get to down play what we all witness.

We need you to acknowledge that school closures were a disaster because schools ARE AFFORDABLE CHILDCARE. They never should have been closed past June 2020. That is how you keep mothers in the workforce.

You are not making sense. Teachers didn’t die in big numbers BECAUSE schools went virtual as soon as cases were confirmed on their campuses. You are using the success of the restrictions to argue against restrictions. A lot more teachers would have died and case counts and deaths generally would have been much higher among school communities if all schools had tried to stay open. Even though small children generally had very mild symptoms, adult child care workers and teachers were not less likely than other workers to have severe symptoms. Child care workers had a higher death rate than average workers, a comparable to the death rates of essential workers.

Exactly. Contact tracing data showed that schools were top locations for spread, and that children were highly effective spreaders of COVID even if they appeared by be healthy and asymptomatic.

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Anonymous wrote:All I am seeing here is that Republicans have emotional hatred and delusional paranoia toward transgender people, poor immigrants, and basic public health protocols. Targeting fears and prejudices to try to incite panic, as with every other election since 1964.

Republican women: you are stupid, hateful and illogical.

--winning Democrat message

From where a lot of Americans stand, it's not an incorrect observation to make.

That's fine. Just don't be surprised that people you hold in contempt don't vote for the same candidates.

Only stupid, hateful, and illogical people identify with the Republican Party. They are proud to be anti-intellectual, belligerent, and paranoid. How else could so many privileged and politically connected people delude themselves that they are victims?

If that's the case, why post on a thread where the OP is asking to understand women in their 30s-40s who vote Republican?

The question is why are women in their 30s & 40s so delusional that they are voting for their oppressors. The answer is that they are being played.

Liberals are so endearing in their condescension towards other women. It’s so appealing to a voter.

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Anonymous wrote:I am an atheist feminist who is married to a Democrat man. I am independent but leaning more and more conservative these days. Issues where I lean more to the conservative side include: crime, immigration, women’s sex-based rights, ideological capture of elite institutions, education, and free speech.

It is worth recognizing that historically women trend more conservative and more religious than men. I have my own theories about why this has changed over the past several decades.

As much as democrats might believe, abortion in and of itself, does not outweigh all of the issues you listed in the minds of many women. Women who are in their late-30s and 40s aren't focused on abortion as much as they are those issues. On crime, they want to keep their families and communities safe. On women's sex-based rights, if they have girls they want them to have fairness in sports. On ideological capture of elite institutions, they want a good education for their kids that will allow them to get jobs to afford the same lifestyles they grew up with. On education and free speech, they want to have differing viewpoints available, even if they don't agree with them.

I would vote for the two of you PPs. Well said.

Except that the current crop of conservative GOP politicians won't actually help you with any of these things. They won't. They just use things like trans women to stoke your emotions.

And BTW, all women, regardless of political party, want to keep their families and communities safe. Every one. They all want good education for their kids and for their kids to find good jobs. All of them. Do you believe otherwise?

Republican women have delusions of superiority. And yet so unaware of reality. The GOP has been dismantling the education system for decades. They don't give a fig about your kids. Wake up.

Well, a whole bunch of women voters learned in the pandemic that the Democrats don’t give a fig about their kids, either, so that threat doesn’t really work for Democrats any more.

Does yelling at women that they are delusional in an effort to persuade them often work for you? It seems ineffective to me, but you do you.

The shut down of schools was the most anti-woman event of my lifetime. It set back an unbelievable number of careers for working moms.

All the more reason that women should be pushing harder for things like remote work, for affordable childcare and so on, along with better educational infrastructure. The only remote work and affordable childcare Republicans care about is you barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen obediently making your husband a sandwich.

Also, many teachers are working moms, too - Republicans hate admitting and acknowledging that early on, schools were one of the top places associated with spread in covid contact tracing data (especially since young kids are snot factories and touch everything) and that many teachers found themselves on the front lines of covid getting sick, with a number of teachers dying in the early days of the pandemic.

The bolded is a straight up lie. It was known early on that children had lower viral loads, one of reason they don't really get that sick with Covid.

And stop will the BS about teachers being on the front lines. They were locked in their homes getting instacart and asynchronously phoning in their jobs. There were no higher rates of teachers dying any more than the average 25-45 year old, which was minimal and if it happened was generally due to already poor health. Just like every other profession.

You do not get to down play what we all witness.

We need you to acknowledge that school closures were a disaster because schools ARE AFFORDABLE CHILDCARE. They never should have been closed past June 2020. That is how you keep mothers in the workforce.

You are not making sense. Teachers didn’t die in big numbers BECAUSE schools went virtual as soon as cases were confirmed on their campuses. You are using the success of the restrictions to argue against restrictions. A lot more teachers would have died and case counts and deaths generally would have been much higher among school communities if all schools had tried to stay open. Even though small children generally had very mild symptoms, adult child care workers and teachers were not less likely than other workers to have severe symptoms. Child care workers had a higher death rate than average workers, a comparable to the death rates of essential workers.

Exactly. Contact tracing data showed that schools were top locations for spread, and that children were highly effective spreaders of COVID even if they appeared by be healthy and asymptomatic.

Literally not true. Children were less effective at transmitting because their symptoms more mild with less viral load. Something known from the very first wave.

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Anonymous wrote:It is actually costing the GOP election success. Why don't they just adjust their position to one that will retain and attract voters instead of driving them away. Particularly for an issue like this that the GOP is claiming is not a top issue.

The Republican nominee leads in the polls, and we control most state governorships. We also won the battle for the house, and the senate map is looking pretty good. Where exactly is the cost, particularly recognizing that most pro life voters are in the GOP?

The house is a mess with a tiny GOP majority. There was no red wave. The democrats flipped a house seat last year and this issue was definitely part of the campaign and the final decision.

The GOP was expected to take the house and did. As for the flipped seat, well yes, it was in New York which has gotten more blue and republicans left the state. New Yorkers aren’t indicative of a national election but the polls are - and they show Trump leading not only in battleground states but on the issues voters care most about.

Republicans won the House in 2022 only because reapportionment and gerrymandering eliminated some Democratic districts and created new Republican districts. The new maps were the difference.

lol. Is this somehow evidence that abortion is “costing Republicans electoral success” as PP claimed? Because I’m simply not seeing it, claims of gerrymandering aside. (You do know the Democrats do the same thing right?)

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Anonymous wrote:Along with doctors, nurses, food supply and public safety.

In person schools were critical to the functioning of society. More should have been done by our federal and state governments, public health officials, the teachers unions, and our communities to weigh the risks and prioritize school for kids.

There could have been creative solutions. We could have done some staffing shifting to ask elderly teachers or at risk teachers to move to older grades who could better learn remotely. We could have re-purposed classrooms that older kids didn't need because they are able to learn online to have more spacing for younger kids or special needs kids who developmentally can't learn remotely. We could have used some of the covid stimulus funds to provide bonus pay for teachers willing to work in-person.

There is a lot we could have done beside abandon kids and families.

I was on the PTO board at our K-8 school at the end of the 2019/20 school year as we were all trying to figure what the fall would look like. It’s easy to forget the timeline. It was confusing but a lot of people were working on what we could do to open, with the understanding that circumstances could change and we might have to go virtual at some point during 20/21.

There were conversations happening about FCPS in particular opening in the fall. It was in the news. Then Trump said they should open. And I knew as soon as he said that, that they wouldn’t. And sure enough they didn’t. Meanwhile, cash-strapped Catholic K-8s all over NoVA opened and stayed open all year. With public school teacher’s kids in our classrooms. Closing the schools was not a scientific decision. It was a political one.

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Anonymous wrote:I am an atheist feminist who is married to a Democrat man. I am independent but leaning more and more conservative these days. Issues where I lean more to the conservative side include: crime, immigration, women’s sex-based rights, ideological capture of elite institutions, education, and free speech.

It is worth recognizing that historically women trend more conservative and more religious than men. I have my own theories about why this has changed over the past several decades.

As much as democrats might believe, abortion in and of itself, does not outweigh all of the issues you listed in the minds of many women. Women who are in their late-30s and 40s aren't focused on abortion as much as they are those issues. On crime, they want to keep their families and communities safe. On women's sex-based rights, if they have girls they want them to have fairness in sports. On ideological capture of elite institutions, they want a good education for their kids that will allow them to get jobs to afford the same lifestyles they grew up with. On education and free speech, they want to have differing viewpoints available, even if they don't agree with them.

I would vote for the two of you PPs. Well said.

Except that the current crop of conservative GOP politicians won't actually help you with any of these things. They won't. They just use things like trans women to stoke your emotions.

And BTW, all women, regardless of political party, want to keep their families and communities safe. Every one. They all want good education for their kids and for their kids to find good jobs. All of them. Do you believe otherwise?

Republican women have delusions of superiority. And yet so unaware of reality. The GOP has been dismantling the education system for decades. They don't give a fig about your kids. Wake up.

Well, a whole bunch of women voters learned in the pandemic that the Democrats don’t give a fig about their kids, either, so that threat doesn’t really work for Democrats any more.

Does yelling at women that they are delusional in an effort to persuade them often work for you? It seems ineffective to me, but you do you.

The shut down of schools was the most anti-woman event of my lifetime. It set back an unbelievable number of careers for working moms.

All the more reason that women should be pushing harder for things like remote work, for affordable childcare and so on, along with better educational infrastructure. The only remote work and affordable childcare Republicans care about is you barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen obediently making your husband a sandwich.

Also, many teachers are working moms, too - Republicans hate admitting and acknowledging that early on, schools were one of the top places associated with spread in covid contact tracing data (especially since young kids are snot factories and touch everything) and that many teachers found themselves on the front lines of covid getting sick, with a number of teachers dying in the early days of the pandemic.

The bolded is a straight up lie. It was known early on that children had lower viral loads, one of reason they don't really get that sick with Covid.

And stop will the BS about teachers being on the front lines. They were locked in their homes getting instacart and asynchronously phoning in their jobs. There were no higher rates of teachers dying any more than the average 25-45 year old, which was minimal and if it happened was generally due to already poor health. Just like every other profession.

You do not get to down play what we all witness.

We need you to acknowledge that school closures were a disaster because schools ARE AFFORDABLE CHILDCARE. They never should have been closed past June 2020. That is how you keep mothers in the workforce.

Hmm, some "straight-up lie" - there's a ton of data and research showing that children were very efficient spreaders of covid, even if they were asymptomatic.

https://research.princeton.edu/news/largest-covid-19-contact-tracing-study-date-finds-children-key-spread-evidence-superspreaders

https://hms.harvard.edu/news/children-spread-covid-19

The crux of the issue is we shut down society and the economy, with all the negative impact to mental health, childhood education, social norms and cohesion, etc. to provide a marginal extension of life for elderly people, many of whom were already in nursing homes.

Our cowardly politicians failed to balance policy risks. They abdicated their responsibilities to public health officials who were blind to everything but the problem immediately in front of them.

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Anonymous wrote:10-20% of pregnancies end in a known miscarriage. That’s not including all of the early unknown miscarriages.
That’s an uncomfortably high percentage of women facing denied healthcare in their red state due to draconian abortion bans. They want to force these laws on the entire nation with a federal ban.
That’s approximately a million women every year in the US at risk due to extreme laws enacted by “pro life” republicans.
How many years is a woman fertile? How many years does she play roulette with those laws?
I agree that men identifying as women should not be housed in prisons but the entire female prison population of the United States is approximately 90,000.
When I look at risk calculus I’m more immediately concerned for my daughter’s health.

This.
Having received a life-saving inmates. abortion (methotrexate to treat an ectopic pregnancy) and conceived one of my DDs via IVF, I'm all too keenly aware of how the red-states' reactions to the overturning of RvW threatens the health and life of women. To say nothing of the current risks to availability of contraception posed by some in the GOP. Birth control pills are used by millions of women to manage and treat symptoms of conditions like PCOS, endometriosis, etc. Threats to contraception impact more than just those trying to avoid pregnancy.
I consider those far more impactful to the vast majority of women than a few trans athletes or inmates. Why should my DDs have less of a right to health care and bodily autonomy than their grandmothers??

Unless you are a Republican, this is irrelevant. This post is about the viewpoints of GOP women of a certain age, not why you feel more impacted by abortion. If you feel that way, vote Dem as you seem to do.

I'm the PP. Born and raised Republican. Considered myself "conservative" based on fiscal beliefs and support of military, but have always been more "middle of the road" on social issues (and I believe I still am).
Started voting split ticket in 2016 because I couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. I refuse to vote for any Republican who supported the overturning of RvW, so I now consider myself independent.
The GOP is losing women like me.

It is hard to understand why the GOP has invested so much into crushing reproductive rights. There seem to be a few posters on here in favor of this position, but for the majority, it's such an extremely unpopular and repulsive position to take. Why is the GOP willing to lose so many voters over this issue that they keep arguing is not really that important?

Are you aware of what the number one issues are for voters right now? Hint, it’s not abortion. I think the more relevant question is why did Biden allow 1.3 million illegals in, in 2023 alone, given how many people list controlling the border as their number one issue?

Your otherness about “illegals” doesn’t negatively affect most people. In fact the work of “illegals” keeps agriculture, manufacturing, and much of the service industry running. Without them, prices would be higher because all of the red state whiners on federal disability won’t do those jobs.
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Native born Americans lost 300k jobs last year according to the bureau of labor statistics. Still think things are going just swimmingly and that Biden’s border mess won’t matter?

Will you please point me to the data? Thanks!

Rush Limbaugh proclaimed those numbers from beyond the grave!

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I'm 34 and I'd say I'm conservative but not a Trumper.

I live in a very liberal city and I've seen how the policies have made our city noticeably worse off. I no longer feel safe walking outside after dark.

Illegal immigration.

Re: abortion, I don't think it should be illegal but it should be restricted.

Biological males should not be in women's locker rooms, bathrooms, or sports teams. There is no reason for our library to have multiple books for preschoolers on display about drag queens.

My friend's gov employer has bragged about illegally excluding white males from leadership positions. You think I'm going to vote for people who discriminate against my husband and my son?

Liberals have made it clear they have nothing but contempt for white families with conservative social values so why on earth would I vote for them? Trump is an absolute lunatic so I'm probably going to vote third party.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm 34 and I'd say I'm conservative but not a Trumper.

I live in a very liberal city and I've seen how the policies have made our city noticeably worse off. I no longer feel safe walking outside after dark.

Illegal immigration.

Re: abortion, I don't think it should be illegal but it should be restricted.

Biological males should not be in women's locker rooms, bathrooms, or sports teams. There is no reason for our library to have multiple books for preschoolers on display about drag queens.

My friend's gov employer has bragged about illegally excluding white males from leadership positions. You think I'm going to vote for people who discriminate against my husband and my son?

Liberals have made it clear they have nothing but contempt for white families with conservative social values so why on earth would I vote for them? Trump is an absolute lunatic so I'm probably going to vote third party.

Forgot to mention that I faithfully followed all the COVID guidelines and as a result my child developed severe social anxiety and speech issues so we've had to spend thousands we didn't really have on speech therapy and CBT for anxiety.

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I guess we moved on from transwomen in prisons. And that's another one where there isn't really any solid data to back up the fear and paranoia that female inmates are more at risk. Where there IS data, it shows that trans inmates are far more likely to be abused in prison than other inmates are. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-survey-transgender-inmates-more-likely-to-be-victims-of-sexual-assault/

But the transphobe will of course highlight a few examples in the news.

Yet for me I still don't see how or why that should be a cause for changing party affiliation and demand to pre-empt legislative agendas when for example I have a MUCH bigger problem with the vastly more destructive and damaging impacts of kids being shot to death in their elementary schools by the dozens, a result of not having robust mandatory universal background checks for guns, and thereby allowing people with a history of mental health problems, domestic violence and so on, not to mention lying on their 4473 forms as I'm sure that quite a few gun owners have done.

We have quite a few MUCH bigger problems in this country that need to get solved than the problem of trans people and prisons, and it's the Republicans who are holding us back from those much bigger issues.

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Anonymous wrote:10-20% of pregnancies end in a known miscarriage. That’s not including all of the early unknown miscarriages.
That’s an uncomfortably high percentage of women facing denied healthcare in their red state due to draconian abortion bans. They want to force these laws on the entire nation with a federal ban.
That’s approximately a million women every year in the US at risk due to extreme laws enacted by “pro life” republicans.
How many years is a woman fertile? How many years does she play roulette with those laws?
I agree that men identifying as women should not be housed in prisons but the entire female prison population of the United States is approximately 90,000.
When I look at risk calculus I’m more immediately concerned for my daughter’s health.

This.
Having received a life-saving inmates. abortion (methotrexate to treat an ectopic pregnancy) and conceived one of my DDs via IVF, I'm all too keenly aware of how the red-states' reactions to the overturning of RvW threatens the health and life of women. To say nothing of the current risks to availability of contraception posed by some in the GOP. Birth control pills are used by millions of women to manage and treat symptoms of conditions like PCOS, endometriosis, etc. Threats to contraception impact more than just those trying to avoid pregnancy.
I consider those far more impactful to the vast majority of women than a few trans athletes or inmates. Why should my DDs have less of a right to health care and bodily autonomy than their grandmothers??

Unless you are a Republican, this is irrelevant. This post is about the viewpoints of GOP women of a certain age, not why you feel more impacted by abortion. If you feel that way, vote Dem as you seem to do.

I'm the PP. Born and raised Republican. Considered myself "conservative" based on fiscal beliefs and support of military, but have always been more "middle of the road" on social issues (and I believe I still am).
Started voting split ticket in 2016 because I couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. I refuse to vote for any Republican who supported the overturning of RvW, so I now consider myself independent.
The GOP is losing women like me.

It is hard to understand why the GOP has invested so much into crushing reproductive rights. There seem to be a few posters on here in favor of this position, but for the majority, it's such an extremely unpopular and repulsive position to take. Why is the GOP willing to lose so many voters over this issue that they keep arguing is not really that important?

Are you aware of what the number one issues are for voters right now? Hint, it’s not abortion. I think the more relevant question is why did Biden allow 1.3 million illegals in, in 2023 alone, given how many people list controlling the border as their number one issue?

Your otherness about “illegals” doesn’t negatively affect most people. In fact the work of “illegals” keeps agriculture, manufacturing, and much of the service industry running. Without them, prices would be higher because all of the red state whiners on federal disability won’t do those jobs.
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Native born Americans lost 300k jobs last year according to the bureau of labor statistics. Still think things are going just swimmingly and that Biden’s border mess won’t matter?

Will you please point me to the data? Thanks!

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

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