Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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[Post New]03/12/2019 20:45
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone looked into how Jon Bon Jovi's daughter got into Hamilton?


And Bruce Springsteen's daughter went to Duke. But I think she's legit smart, though. Plus she's an equestrian, a good hook for the 1%.
[Post New]03/12/2019 20:46
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Anonymous
I understand why the employee who received the bribes get to go to jail. In what way is it illegal for the parents to bribe the coach (or whoever)?

Say I go to an Apple store and bribe the cashier there something to set aside a new iPhone on the day it comes out, how am I doing anything illegal? Understand what the clerk is doing IS illegal but that's not my problem, is it???

Serious question guys, don't go off on tangents..
[Post New]03/12/2019 20:48
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Anonymous
Meadow Soprano got into Columbia, somehow. You think Tony paid handsomely for that?
[Post New]03/12/2019 20:49
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I understand why the employee who received the bribes get to go to jail. In what way is it illegal for the parents to bribe the coach (or whoever)?

Say I go to an Apple store and bribe the cashier there something to set aside a new iPhone on the day it comes out, how am I doing anything illegal? Understand what the clerk is doing IS illegal but that's not my problem, is it???

Serious question guys, don't go off on tangents..

OMG!
Look folks one of the dummies whose parents bought her way into college.
[Post New]03/12/2019 20:50
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Anonymous
No read the whole transcript. CW-1 told him they'd have to get her diagnosed with disability that would entitle her to extra time on the exam (because that's how they can do the exam in a location where they can use the fake tester). He mentioned that "all the wealthy families are doing this, so it isn't an even playing field anyway." Sound familiar?

This is such a travesty for kids who actually have learning differences.

Yes. How prevalent is getting LDs diagnosed to have more time on SAT?

This is definitely a thing including here in DC-land. It's such a scam. I teach an honors level science class to mostly high school juniors. Across 90 kids, I started with about 10 kids with 504 plans for extended time, only two of whom actually need it and actually have some learning challenges. And amazingly, this fall, as juniors, I had 5 additional kids qualify for 504 plans due to "anxiety". They all had straight As, no educational impact. Like seriously? What BS. You clearly just want extended time on your ACT/SAT tests. It's a total parental scam and it pisses me off.
[Post New]03/12/2019 20:50
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I understand why the employee who received the bribes get to go to jail. In what way is it illegal for the parents to bribe the coach (or whoever)?

Say I go to an Apple store and bribe the cashier there something to set aside a new iPhone on the day it comes out, how am I doing anything illegal? Understand what the clerk is doing IS illegal but that's not my problem, is it???

Serious question guys, don't go off on tangents..

OMG!
Look folks one of the dummies whose parents bought her way into college.


Example of a tangent..
[Post New]03/12/2019 20:53
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Meadow Soprano got into Columbia, somehow. You think Tony paid handsomely for that?


Meadow was actually smart. However, if I remember the storyline correctly, it was Carmela that intimidated someone into writing a recommendation for her.
[Post New]03/12/2019 20:55
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Anonymous
If any of you haven’t read the book “The Price of Admission” by Daniel Golden, I highly recommend you do so. Eye-opening and sickening info on how wealthy buy college admission. Brown and Duke are particularly bad.


Here is NYT book review:

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/17/books/review/Wolff2.t.html


And Wiki:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Price_of_Admission
[Post New]03/12/2019 20:56
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone looked into how Jon Bon Jovi's daughter got into Hamilton?


And Bruce Springsteen's daughter went to Duke. But I think she's legit smart, though. Plus she's an equestrian, a good hook for the 1%.


Lots of colleges go easy on VIP’s, but it doesn’t mean there is a bribe involved.
[Post New]03/12/2019 20:58
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I understand why the employee who received the bribes get to go to jail. In what way is it illegal for the parents to bribe the coach (or whoever)?

Say I go to an Apple store and bribe the cashier there something to set aside a new iPhone on the day it comes out, how am I doing anything illegal? Understand what the clerk is doing IS illegal but that's not my problem, is it???

Serious question guys, don't go off on tangents..


Mail fraud.
[Post New]03/12/2019 20:58
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If any of you haven’t read the book “The Price of Admission” by Daniel Golden, I highly recommend you do so. Eye-opening and sickening info on how wealthy buy college admission. Brown and Duke are particularly bad.


Here is NYT book review:

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/17/books/review/Wolff2.t.html


And Wiki:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Price_of_Admission


And here is video of author talking about book:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?194456-1/the-price-admission


I remember Ralph Lauren’s kids were profiled on their suspect admission to Duke. Brown was favorite for Hollywood celebs.



[Post New]03/12/2019 21:00
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Anonymous
As for the Apple analogy it would be commercial bribery in 36 states

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_bribery
[Post New]03/12/2019 21:01
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I understand why the employee who received the bribes get to go to jail. In what way is it illegal for the parents to bribe the coach (or whoever)?

Say I go to an Apple store and bribe the cashier there something to set aside a new iPhone on the day it comes out, how am I doing anything illegal? Understand what the clerk is doing IS illegal but that's not my problem, is it???

Serious question guys, don't go off on tangents..


You're stupid.

You're basically saying if a mob boss asked an underling to kill someone, because he didn't physically commit the crime he shouldn't be arrested for coercion and conspiracy to commit murder?

PLEASE.

The parents knowingly committed the crime of:

- Falsifying their kids test scores
- Purchasing a spot of admittance in what is supposed to be a merit-based application process
- Bribing inter-state officials
- Hiding their payments as a charity donation (committing a felony)
- Wire fraud and mail fraud in doing so

They deserve everything that is coming to them.
[Post New]03/12/2019 21:01
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I understand why the employee who received the bribes get to go to jail. In what way is it illegal for the parents to bribe the coach (or whoever)?

Say I go to an Apple store and bribe the cashier there something to set aside a new iPhone on the day it comes out, how am I doing anything illegal? Understand what the clerk is doing IS illegal but that's not my problem, is it???

Serious question guys, don't go off on tangents..


Mail fraud.


But if the transaction never involved mail - meaning a hand to hand transfer of cash for a slot with no documentation to support it, what law has been broken if it is a non-public school? DP, btw. How is this any different than sliding gifts to the membership committee at a country club?
[Post New]03/12/2019 21:01
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Anonymous
I am surprised there weren't more.

I doubt any of them will got to jail and most will probably be let off with a misdemeanor at most.

Hopefully the schools will take action and remove the students.

How did they uncover the scheme?
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